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7string_thing
Junior
Username: 7string_thing

Post Number: 30
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 8:02 am:   Edit Post

No i kept the 5 way, although im going to do a different switch to it soon i think. I scalloped the last four frets for easier access, and i used super fine grit sandpaper to satinize the back of the neck. I made a block to block the tremolo, and i use flatwounds on it. The next things i do to it in question might be
Benedetto Jazz Pickups, Fralin Humbuckers, Phat Cat P90s, or the Fralin Split Singles, or maybee Alembicize it?
I also want a neck with a compound radius and an ebony fingerboard, so i might comission somone to make me and all macassar ebony neck with 2 maple pinstripes, and a macassar fingerboard. 10-12 radius and fully scaloped. whaddya think?

I think if i make that pedalboard ill put a huge fulltone sticker in the middle and sell it for 20,000 saying its "one of a kind, serial number 001, custom built for some famous player in uganda or something!"
7string_thing
Junior
Username: 7string_thing

Post Number: 41
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post

Does anyone know is sultone uses dovetails inthier cabinetry? they look so nice but i would never buy a hardwood speaker cab if it dosnt have dovetails!
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1716
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post

No, as far as I know, Bill doesn't use dovetails. He uses modified rabbets and other types of joints (like bevels). The cabinets are super strong and the joinery is first-rate. IF you look at my amp thread, you can see that the woodworking doesn't match. The Straub head cab, with woodworking done by Harry Straub, is square-edged and utilized dovetails. The speaker cab, with woodworking done by Bill Boekhoff @ Sultione, has rounded edges and use rabbets and other joints (like the beveled press-fit joints on the removable "convertible" back slats. Note that, while both pieces were finished concurrently by the same shop, they don't quite match due to the difference in woods.

What you may not be able to see is how much cleaner the joints look on the Sultone piece. The sappelle splintered when Harry cut the dovetails and he had to use wood filler (putty) to try and hide it. The Sultone cab has no such problems. With no disrespect to Harry intended, Harry's forte' is electronics, Bill's is woodworking. Harry's woodworking is good, Bill's is a work of art, IMHO.

REMEMBER: drawers are dovetailed for a specific reason. A dove tail has strength only in one direction, and is weak in all other axes. Note on a drawer that you have in your home which axis the dovetails lie in. Dovetails are strong only in the direction of the drawer pull. Take it out of it tracks and press on the drawer sideways (i.e, perpendicular to the drawer pull direction) and watch what happens...it can easily come apart.

My whole point in this is to recommend that you not get hung-up on specifications. If there's a stronger way to make a box's joints, Bill would be using it. He walks the line between strength and aesthetics, and does so deftly and with precision.

The only negative with Sultone is the wait. I'm waiting over a year for my Twin Cab and counting. If you order, don't make the mistake of paying up-front in full and, by all means, make a pest of yourself, LOL!

Cheers,

Kevin
7string_thing
Junior
Username: 7string_thing

Post Number: 45
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post

Have you guys seen the mongotone cabinets, all mahogany almost an inch thick with dovetails and a birch ply baffle along with a NITROCELLULOSE laquer finish. i think this is the cab for me! www.mongotone.co.uk
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 1013
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 2:40 pm:   Edit Post

I'm currently having a custom vertical 2x12 built by Cas at Tone-Tools:

http://www.tone-tools.com/

Cas seems very responsive, so far Alembic-like customer service. He worked with me on specing the cabinet for my needs. It will be made of Bubinga with a cane front to match my Boogie. At my request, he's making it convertible from closed to open back with a removable panel. In addition, it will have a switch so that I can run it at 4,8,16 ohms, mono or stereo. Reasonable price too! Check it out.

Bill, tgo
jalevinemd
Advanced Member
Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 345
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 8:31 pm:   Edit Post

Got tired of lugging the old Marshall half stack each time me and the guys got together and finally got a combo amp. I would have loved a little 1x12 but my co-guitarist still wants to lug his head and 4x12 cab, so I needed to be able to move a bit more air than a tiny amp would allow. The Marshall will remain a permanent fixture in my den. Since I do all of my modulation through my POD XT Live, I needed an amp with plenty of clean headroom. Also, I didn't want to shell out a lot of cash. Wound up getting a Fender Hot Rod Deville. 60 watts, all tube, 4x10 platform. Sticker was $799 at Guitar Center, but I got a discount from a guy I've done a fair bit of business with there. For the money, I don't think you can beat it. I give it two thumbs up!!!
jazzyvee
Advanced Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 366
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post

I've used those amps on many gigs when they have been provided in the backline rig and they are really very good.
Jazzyvee
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1740
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 5:49 am:   Edit Post

That's why I went with a 2X12 cab. 4X12's look the biz, but are tough to lug around. Even in a flight case, the 2X12 is light enough to handle easily by myself. If I ever need to move more air (doubtful), I can always add another 2X12.

It's actually easier to move the head and cab in flight cases than it is to move my Fender Twin reverb combo(85#-plus). My roadie has a bad back and knee(s), LOL!
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 3303
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 6:06 am:   Edit Post

A guy I used to play with had a Hot Rod Deville. I thought he sounded much better through it than through his Deluxe Reverb; but he preferred the Deluxe.
jalevinemd
Advanced Member
Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 346
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 8:05 am:   Edit Post

Dave,

I sound great no matter what I play through...yeah, I wish!
7string_thing
Junior
Username: 7string_thing

Post Number: 48
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post

dont you guys wish we started playing a simple instrument like the sax? all you need to carry is the sax and a mic, it could have been so simple haha! Ill be picking up a two rock very soon i believe, wish me luck
jagerphan84
Advanced Member
Username: jagerphan84

Post Number: 224
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post

But Pat, don't forget about reeds, the mouthpiece, cork grease, ligature, neck strap... Sure, they all fit in the case, but forget just one and a gig can become a heck of a lot more interesting...
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1741
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post

Nah, I don't like polishing brass and draining spittle, LOL! I'll stick to strings and frets.
jalevinemd
Advanced Member
Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 347
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 2:07 pm:   Edit Post

I think a shot of penicillin will take care of it if you drain spittle after you polish your brass!
byoung
Advanced Member
Username: byoung

Post Number: 220
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 9:28 pm:   Edit Post

That's just wrong.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6565353951300176477
7string_thing
Junior
Username: 7string_thing

Post Number: 50
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 7:16 pm:   Edit Post

Well guys, the search is over, i bought a two rock. i custom ordered the 100 watter, with an effects loop , 1x12 cab with the two rock/eminence g12-65 etc, its gunna be sweet, should be here in about 2 or 3 weeks, hopefully my 7 string will arrive at the same time!
tom_z
Advanced Member
Username: tom_z

Post Number: 295
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 9:28 pm:   Edit Post

Congrats Pat - I'm sure you'll love the combination of Alembic and K&M.

Tom
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1743
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 5:36 am:   Edit Post

Pat:

Congrats! Take pix (and post 'em here) and give us the low-down.

Cheers,

Kevin
7string_thing
Member
Username: 7string_thing

Post Number: 51
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post

i will once it gets here, they started making it monday and they will ship it the following monday. hopefully i will have it for next saturday for another big band gig!
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1752
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 7:43 am:   Edit Post

Pat:

Looking forward to your pix and review(s)!

As an aside and just for sh*ts and giggles:

FWIW, The two guitarists for Donald Fagen's (Steely Dan) '06 tour, John Herrington and Wayne Krantz, were using Guytron and Bogner "half" stacks, respectively, and they both sounded great. The show was 3/1/06. I'd never heard of Guytron before, but both amps appeared to be "Marshall"-style, the Guytron being closer to the standard JCM-800 layout than the Bogner. Wayne had two different Bogner heads...one as a back-up...the main one was a channel switcher that he was constantly changing with a foot controller. Since I was in the front row (center), I got the 'Direct' stage sound as well as the PA sound. Both players has 2X12 cabs that sounded huge, even as back-line stand-alones. The sound crew used two studio-type mikes on each...one looked like a Neumann or Beyer condenser mike, the other looked like a tube- type vocal mike with the suspension. They were placed directly up against the cabs grille cloths at the drivers. While they both had pretty substantial pedalboards (and they used them fully and often...lots of footwork going on, LOL!), both amps got pristine clean jazz tones as well as good dirty tones. I have no idea what part of the dirt (if any) was attributable to the pedal board (all discrete individual stompboxes...no Pete Cornish or Bob Bradshaw stuff here, LOL!) and what part to the amps. All I know is they sounded good...and those guys can play whatever they want.

Anybody have experience with either amps or can anybody illucidate further into the aforementioned gentlemen's guitar rigs? Inquiring minds wanna know! LOL!

Cheers,

Kevin
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 650
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 5:52 pm:   Edit Post

Any feedback from you very experienced guitar slingers regarding the CyberTwins or the EVH combo from Peavey? Certainly not boutique, but any experience with these two? Guitarist friend thinks he's GOT to have one or the other.

J o e y
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1755
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 5:05 am:   Edit Post

Unlike when I first started playing and you had a choice of 2-3 guitar amps (there were always more than that, but if it wasn't a high-line Fender or Marshall you got no respect, LOL!), the choice today boggles the mind. Besides the 100's of "mass-market" amps out there, you have dozens of boutique builders all competing for your hard-earned dosh.

BTW, Joey:

I don't mean to make you jealous, but my little brother just got a (red) KLR-650. Now I'm trying to get him to take the MSF course.
laytonco
Junior
Username: laytonco

Post Number: 47
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 6:13 am:   Edit Post

bigredbass, I owned a Cybertwin for about a year, but traded it in for a 65 Twin. Cybertwin = no tubes = no tone. Okay, it has a small preamp tube, but still no tone.
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1765
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 6:29 am:   Edit Post

Most of the "modeling" stuff out there today is long on features, variety and bells/whistles, but short on tone, IMHO.

As I've said before, ad naseum, "Just as good as" seldom is, LOL!

Cheers,

Kevin
gare
Advanced Member
Username: gare

Post Number: 352
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post

I recently saw some friends playing, guitarist was using a cyber deluxe. They were doing Genesis, Yes, King Crimsom, Tull. He was nailing the tones from those bands.

G
tom_z
Advanced Member
Username: tom_z

Post Number: 304
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 1:25 pm:   Edit Post

I have a Vox Valvetronix that sounds pretty good (not as good as my Mesa) and has a lot of nice models (Fender, Dumble, Soldano, Mesa, Vox) and effects. Since I picked up the Lonestar I don't really use the Vox anymore. If anyone is interested in a decent little modeling amp, make me an offer.

Tom
7string_thing
Member
Username: 7string_thing

Post Number: 53
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 6:10 pm:   Edit Post

Once had a Line 6 Vetta II and it was god awful. for such an expensive amp, it wasnt worth the gum underneath a desk. It was cool in the fact that it was midi capable and had 128 channels,you can set a million different ways, but talk about no tone. thats when i bought my mesa thats less than half the price and more than 100 times the tone, not to mention 10 times less power and seemed to have more presence, cut, and out and out balls. Immagine a 4x10 35 watt class a tube amp, against a 300 watt half stack, and the smaller winning, its kind of sad. if its too good to be true, it probably is, unless of course your using an ALEMBIC!
7string_thing
Member
Username: 7string_thing

Post Number: 55
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post



Came in friday afternoon, and i played a gig with it last night. theres not a bad tone in the thing! I could easily say that i have heard nothing as good as this amp be it live or recorded. Its super loud but has a level controll on the back that does an awsome job. its pretty amasing what this beast can do. You can turn the bass and mids all the way down and crank the treble and flip the bright switch, max the presence and it still dosnt sound bad. its amasing. i dont think i will buy another amp for a long while, this thing does it all, the only other is either another TR or a Dumble, or a Trainwreck/Komet. Nothing else comes close. just utterly amasing. Im still waiting for the cab, but my 4x10s sound better than ever, and super loud! Soon to have 5 Telefunkens or RCA's in the preamp, and some Philips JAN NOS 6L6WGB's in the Poweramp. Im considering lowering the gain in the preamp and putting 12AU7's instead of 12AX7's. This amp goes from pure blackface to hyper funk clean, to stringy SRV, to Robben and Carlton, to all and out Heavy METAL! its amasing ive never seen such a chameleon. It is THE AMP!
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 3443
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 4:48 pm:   Edit Post

So I guess you like it then? <g>

Congrats!
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1778
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 6:01 am:   Edit Post

Congrats, Pat! That's a real sweet piece. You're getting a TR cab? What driver config? What are you using for now (i.e., 4x10's)?

Cheers,

Kevin

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