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Author Message byoung Advanced Member Username: byoung Post Number: 313 Registered: 12-2004 Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 1:28 pm:    Here's what I'm thinking: Series II feeding F2B in Stereo Infra-MXB Sub side: QSC 1802 bridged mono 18" Infra Sub Stereo Top: QSC 1802 in stereo Pair of 2x10 cabs (thinking Bag End, again) What think ye? Brad davehouck Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 4103 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 5:21 pm:    A single 18" Infra sub is rated at 400 watts and 8 ohms. The 1802 bridge mono is rate at 1100 watts into 8 ohms. Well more than enough. The D10BX-D is rated at 400 watts continuous, 800 peak, at 4 ohms. The 1802 is rated at 525 watts per channel into 4 ohms, which should be a good match. I think it sounds like a great setup. byoung Advanced Member Username: byoung Post Number: 314 Registered: 12-2004 Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 5:55 pm:    I feel pretty confident about the Infra sub, but I haven't heard the D10 from Bag End. Anyone care to comment? Bag End certainly have a reputation, especially here. Dave, you run a Infra rig, right? Brad davehouck Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 4104 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 7:13 pm:    Yes, I have an Elf system; and I love it. The low end curve is very smooth. It does seem to me that it's not very loud. I run one 18" sub off one side of a 2402, which is 425 watts into 8 ohms. When I go out I run a 4 ohm Eden 210XLT on the other side, and together, from a volume perspective, they are a good match, and fine for the gigs that we play. I have a second sub, but I haven't used both at the same time yet. My plan there would be to run them in parallel off one side of the PLX. At home I have a Bag End D10X-D, which I think is a great sounding cabinet. I prefer it's tone over the Eden, but the Eden is louder, so that's what I take out. Perhaps the D10BX-D, being deeper in size, puts out more sound. I believe Michael plays or played through a D10X-D on his gigs. keith_h Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 508 Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:56 am:    I'm using the ELF system. I drive two 18" off of one side of a PLX 3002 and a D10BX-D off of the other side of the 3002. I really like the sound of the D10, very hi-fi. Lately I've been running the D10 full range. It seems to work better in the small area where we practice. So far it has held up to a fairly loud rock drummer. Haven't gigged with it yet so can't speak to a larger room. Keith bigredbass Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 915 Registered: 9-2002 Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 5:26 pm:    So why are ELFs now INFRAs? BagEnd always reminded me of the Wall of Sound, any connection? J o e y davehouck Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 4149 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 6:33 pm:    Joey; this was brought up a couple years back in a previous thread and it was suggested that it seemed to be the case that Bag End no longer had rights to the name "Elf". bsee Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 1268 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 7:55 pm:    It seems like you're sparing no expense, at least weight wise, to get really hi-fi tone. If you don't mind lugging heavy gear, you might opt for beefier old-school power amps. Something like Crest CA 6 or CA 9s? byoung Advanced Member Username: byoung Post Number: 317 Registered: 12-2004 Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 2:29 pm:    It's going to be more of a semi-permanent installation; I'll only have to lug it once. Do the Crest amps have enough oomph to drive an Infra rig at 8 ohm? bsee Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 1273 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 9:18 pm:    The CA9 is a 2U amp at 47 lbs. Stereo power is 600 into 8, 900 into 4, and 1000 into 2. Bridged it does 1800 into 8, 2000 into 4. The CA6 is a 2U amp at 44 lbs. Stereo power is 400 into 8, 600 into 4, and 750 into 2. Bridged it does 1200 into 8, 1500 into 4. Someone here mentioned a difficulty with those amps and some Alembic gear, though. You might want to check that out before you consider investing. My main goal in commenting earlier was to point out that you were picking all top of the line components, but maybe not the top power amps available. I'd also say that there are a lot of people who are replacing their heavier power amps with the latest <20 lb digital gear. As a result, there are some good deals out there on heavy high end gear. -bob byoung Advanced Member Username: byoung Post Number: 318 Registered: 12-2004 Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 9:46 pm:    Bob, That is a good recommendation-- I don't really care if it weighs a ton, as long as it has power.