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altgrendel
Junior
Username: altgrendel

Post Number: 30
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 8:29 am:   Edit Post

I was wondering if anyone knows how difficult it would be to have one or two presets for each pickup on a Series bass. The idea is kind of like that dragon bass "Starburst", but with a two or three position switch that would allow you to change between preset 1, 2, and the knobs.

The reason I was thinking about this were some threads where someone thought there was too much tweaking to mod your sound live. You could have to basic tones setup and still have the option to tweak during a solo and quick change back to where you were without having to go to the footpedals or the amp.
fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 796
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post

I think I also mentioned something like this a while ago...
Something like a Series 1 + 2 with a 4 position switch
Position 1: off, position 2: 6dB, position 3: 9dB, position 4: CVQ
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2080
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post

Flip, I think the idea is to have presets for the combined settings of filter pots, volume pots and Q switches, so you can switch between different presets, instead of having to change all those controls one by one --- plus the option to use the normal controls.
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 1213
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 2:20 pm:   Edit Post

How about something like the quick change switches on the Europa electronics?

Keith
altgrendel
Junior
Username: altgrendel

Post Number: 31
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 6:00 am:   Edit Post

adriaan has the idea.

I don't think Europa electronics would work that way. Can the quick tone switches be adjusted by the end user?

(Message edited by AltGrendel on February 06, 2009)
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 1216
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 7:22 am:   Edit Post

No they are preset. Basically they are bass and treble boost/flat/cut switches. I brought them up as I found them quite versatile and easier to use than the filter for quick changes. I was just throwing them out there as an idea that might work for you.

Keith
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 7515
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 4:18 pm:   Edit Post

My guess is that it could be done. For instance I'm guessing it would be possible to have a circuit built that would set the low pass filter at 3kHz and the Q at 6db, and a second circuit for 2kHz and 3db, and then a switch position to choose the normal circuit. I'm guessing that because of the bench time involved, it would not be inexpensive. I'm also thinking that it might be impractical, because the "sweet spot" that you like today might change a few months from now, especially if you change amps or speaker cabs. And if you change guitar players, the tone that cuts through against a strat might not be the same tone that cuts through against an LP. And if this mod were for a new instrument order, you wouldn't know where the "sweet spot" was to begin with. To make it user variable, you would probably have to have an extra set of low pass filters and CVQs for each switch setting.
jseitang
Advanced Member
Username: jseitang

Post Number: 257
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post

it would be interesting to have that electronic set p, but a moveable CVQ for the whole electronic within the guitar... sort of like a mass shift within the electronics.
briant
Advanced Member
Username: briant

Post Number: 264
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 1:27 am:   Edit Post

Or you could just spend some quality time with your new instrument and figure out where to set the knobs by yourself.

Don't mean to be brutal... but I am. I only have signature electronics on my basses and I know roughly where to twist the knobs quickly to make a certain sound happen. All it takes is a little bit of time.
altgrendel
Junior
Username: altgrendel

Post Number: 34
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 7:18 am:   Edit Post

Well, yes, that's true.

But the whole point of this topic is discussion of possibilities.

Is it practical? Probably not. I doubt that the Mothership would entertain actually doing this. But I though it was a cool idea worthy of discussion.

Sorry you don't think so.
hieronymous
Senior Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 527
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post

I still think it would be cool for Alembic to work with Moog and their RAC (real analog control) technology - it's used in their recent Little Phatty synth. It's hard to find a good succinct description, but basically the parameters can be controlled or preset by MIDI, but the knobs themselves are analog. If that makes any sense!

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