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altgrendel
Junior Username: altgrendel
Post Number: 40 Registered: 5-2008
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 9:50 am: | |
Well, I for one can't wait to see the FTC thread for this one. |
gregduboc
New Username: gregduboc
Post Number: 8 Registered: 11-2008
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:03 am: | |
Hal, after reading what Mica said, I can't be more sure this is going to be one awesome bass! I'm also a short scale guy, and I know that this balance doesn't work for everyone, but it sure works for me and I believe it sure works for you. I still haven't been able to have my custom built Alembic YET, but I understand what you mean with the "can't do this" sort of stuff. It is indeed complicated to change something that is already definitive in our minds, but I know that everyone here really wants you to have the best bass possible. I believe what they are really trying is to help you anyway they can so you can have what you dream! Sometimes, new things might look weird, but they tend to develop it to something specia I am already in love with your bass, and I can't wait to watch the FTC... So, did you already give it the green light? Let us know! Greg |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 469 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 1:04 pm: | |
The whole idea, is to play it so fast, it will ignite! I want Stanley Clarke to do this... For, He's the only person, I believe could do it, and get away with it... It would make music history, I would present him the Toma_Hawk bass personally for such an event! "Who knows, this might be my purpose for my bass..." |
darkstar01
Intermediate Member Username: darkstar01
Post Number: 143 Registered: 6-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 1:09 pm: | |
....so you're going to give it to stanley? hmm.... |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 470 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 2:09 pm: | |
More virtual images to come..."Side angle shot" forth coming... |
tmoney61092
Member Username: tmoney61092
Post Number: 67 Registered: 9-2008
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 5:43 pm: | |
so are you planning on trying out for a famous band or are you just doing this for the heck of it? do you know the price yet? ~Taylor |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 471 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 6:25 pm: | |
I was in many jazz bands in my high school and college daze. I work in my home recording studio now. I am looking to doing more touring in the future. This bass will be THEE BASS.
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hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 472 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 6:32 pm: | |
Oh, the price of the bass you asked? How many licks does it takes to get the center of a tootsie pop? "The world will never know..."
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hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 473 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 7:53 pm: | |
Man.. Greg, that was beautifully said... I know some day, you "WILL" build you bass. This is the spirit to have. Being in my mid 40's, I am at a point musically -- to "do it", or leave the whole thing alone and don't waste anyone's time. I put "The O-Mi-T-1" before everything I do, and as long as I use the tools, knowledge, skills, and techniques in one stroking motion this bass will be a prize I been looking to reward myself to cap my 43 years of guitar and bass playing. This is a very special and personal endeavor. I love my Shorty, but the Toma_Hawk will be a reflection of me when my day is done here. |
adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan
Post Number: 2115 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 12:49 am: | |
Perhaps the issue with control placement could be solved in a similar fashion as on Marc's "simple bass", a.k.a. Monty. |
gregduboc
New Username: gregduboc
Post Number: 9 Registered: 11-2008
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 5:39 am: | |
Hal, it makes me happy seeing someone realizing a dream. I'm cheering here for everything to come out perfectly as you want. You've reached a point of evolution, I believe, and the Toma_Hawk will symbolize it. You are heading the right way! Greg |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 475 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 8:16 am: | |
Adriaan, First let me say, the Monty Bass is an awesome bass. I love everything about this bass. Black Basses are formal as heck, and there's this high-tech Bat-Man like mystique to this bass that I love. The Monty is one of my favorite Alembic customs, and the looks are very striking and it screams "PLAY ME!" I am glad you brought the Monty in this custom concept forum for more reasons than the ones I raised, because it is fitting, and I must admit, I was thinking about a black custom, but the Monty was already built, and with the bat-like wings to boot at the tail, fabulous. As for the control knobs, I would had done the same for the Toma_Hawk bass, but s/he's more primitive than the Monty. The knobs position on the Monty, says High-Tech, and straight lines. It's perfectly done. On the Toma_Hawk, the knobs are arranged in that "old-school way" I wish to preserve. My mind is programmed with 4 controls, if I couldn't have 2 stacked pots. When you think about it, "2" is more primitive than "4". So, if I can't have the two, then give me the classic 4 knobs, arranged in the classic parallelogram shape. |
adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan
Post Number: 2119 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 9:33 am: | |
Hal, Those silhouettes you posted are really striking. Seems like the waistline coming in from the head of the tomahawk (or the tail end of the body) is less rounded than in the initial mockups you did, and I think it looks a lot better this way. Those knobs will surely find their way as it will please the elves ... |
adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan
Post Number: 2120 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 9:46 am: | |
And not to discourage you in any way, but odd shaped bassed tend to make you look a bit dorky (or in this particular case, dorkier) -
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hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 476 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 11:04 am: | |
I never was into lighting volt, jagged edge basses. They looks great if I was watching somebody else dressed up to match the whole "look" and the attitude of the music matched (I would almost demand it...). On the other hand, I don't want a safe and boring bass that looks like a plain round sucker either. It's just a matter of taste. I still have much work to do with the Toma_Hawk. Looking at old Native American Drawings from the past, the Toma_Hawk was a short budded rock leather tied to a stick, lased with beautiful Hawk feathers. Man, that's beautiful to me... It will be a challenge, to embody in this bass, for something that is so simple. |
eligilam
Intermediate Member Username: eligilam
Post Number: 157 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 1:45 pm: | |
Is that a Linc Luthier in that pic? |
adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan
Post Number: 2121 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 2:00 pm: | |
No, it's an early 1980s bass by Geoff Gale (from Wales, UK). This is from the Korgis video for "Everybody's got to learn sometime" - which has had its fair share of covers, perhaps most notably by Beck. As someone on Talkbass.com found out, James Warren of the Korgis sold the bass on to one of the guys of Tears for Fears. |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 477 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:34 pm: | |
Virtual model with Toma_Hawk...
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hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 478 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:50 pm: | |
The perspective here, is the ratio in terms of size of the bass, in approximation of a individual who is 6 feet or in height, (in proportion) or taller. I believe the bass is well proportion to my size as well. I am 6.1 |
gregduboc
New Username: gregduboc
Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2008
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 5:34 am: | |
Hal, did you decide on which woods the Toma_Hawk will be made of? Do you have an idea of the overall weight yet, just out of curiosity? Greg (Message edited by gregduboc on February 28, 2009) |
mike1762
Advanced Member Username: mike1762
Post Number: 272 Registered: 1-2008
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 7:17 am: | |
I'm with Adriaan, I think the silhouettes probably give you a better idea of what the final product will look like. It will be really important to keep the neck laminates centered through the body. Have you considered a "no show" top? |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 479 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 8:21 am: | |
You are right. I edited the Silhouette to take more of the "edge" off... It should match the Virtual shape as close a possible... Looks good, even as a 2D Silhouette... Thanks guys.
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hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 480 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 8:45 am: | |
Here's the silhouette Small Body in comparison to the Toma_Hawk.
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hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 481 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 10:01 am: | |
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hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 482 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 10:26 am: | |
I am really hoping that this emblem could be applied. |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 483 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 1:04 pm: | |
Natural color Eames era art style...
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dnburgess
Senior Member Username: dnburgess
Post Number: 593 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 2:26 pm: | |
Just one question - did you try concepts that would orient the point of the Toma_hawk perpendicular to the line of the neck - like a real tomahawk? |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 484 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 3:51 pm: | |
David, That's funny.... in the year 2180 (170 years from now), you will see the concept of your question, if I am still around |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 485 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 4:21 pm: | |
The finger board draft...
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hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 486 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 4:27 pm: | |
I am really liking the double boomerangs... I have to think about this... Damm! |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 487 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 8:58 pm: | |
Edited draft...Finger board (Mother of Pearl)Boomerang Change = double boomerang on octave...
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hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 488 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 9:30 pm: | |
Phase-1 design done... Phase-1 1. Shape/body 2. Controls 3. Fingerboard Design 4. Crown |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 489 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 9:33 pm: | |
Oh yeah, the color too. |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 490 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 11:23 pm: | |
Profile: Toma_Hawk draft...(thinner neck) Short Scale, Blue LED with Pin White Strip along the side of neck...
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georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy
Post Number: 665 Registered: 8-2005
| Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 3:26 am: | |
Looks great Hal!!! Just off topic a bit, but how do you manage to do all of those things??? What program do you use, and how can I learn to do things like that!? |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 491 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 9:19 am: | |
Thanks Georgie. I am just at the "Thinking out loud" phases. I use a very old program called: PhotoImpact 6.0 by ULead, but you could use many photo and rendering digital drawing tools. The version I have is very dated, but it's like an old glove I believe I paid (some where around) $30 back in 2000, and it's still relevant today. These days, with a digital camera, and photo editing capabilities, you can learn to do so much more than my "Chuck-covered wagon program"... |
daveski
Member Username: daveski
Post Number: 72 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 10:12 am: | |
Hal, may i just say as being someone who has ordered there own custom build, your passion and energy for your dream Toma-hawk bass is highly commendable and i'm sure sure when you have ironed out all the details with mica you will end up with a bass that is second to none and your own original shape to boot, well done that man!!! |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 492 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 12:58 pm: | |
This is the more refined back with Toma_Hawk emblem. "Draft" I am considering... I want the back to be very rustic looking... to honor a period. But Las Vegas in the front Baby! |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 493 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 1:09 pm: | |
As for the Brass back plates... I like them. Reminds me of bullet shells (which are also brass)... I love the aging... I would appreciate an older plate for both covers (if you guys have one in the back somewhere...) |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 494 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 1:40 pm: | |
Thanks Dave C. This design was in my head "SCREAMING" to come out. Sometimes the most simplest changes, could be the hardest thing to do. The shape of this bass and the Alembic "glass sounding clarity, and accuracy" makes my heart skips a beat, with every edit to perfection. |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 495 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 3:04 pm: | |
In respect to the Red-Tail Hawk, the feathers tips are red.
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oujeebass
Intermediate Member Username: oujeebass
Post Number: 147 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 8:17 pm: | |
"so are you planning on trying out for a famous band or are you just doing this for the heck of it? do you know the price yet?" Lets not go there... Do you want the board to erupt? I have asked that question myself of many of these great basses built. Trust fund or not its not our business. This idea could be a topic in itself across many boards. |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 496 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 8:46 pm: | |
What's funny with this guy; I already own an Alembic... Therefore, with his logic: I should be currently either trying out with a famous band, or already in a famous band... I guess Alembics are only for famous bands. LOL! As far as the cost of my Alembic, I'll let him know his price if he wants to buy it. Oh, and I will keep our business between us too. |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 497 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 8:50 pm: | |
By the way, the Toma_Hawk is a keeper. I will never sell it, once it's made. |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 498 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 7:30 am: | |
Bottom end... Black and White for better contrasting...
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hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 499 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 11:05 am: | |
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jedisan
Junior Username: jedisan
Post Number: 49 Registered: 3-2008
| Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 12:02 pm: | |
Hal, this is a great thread! With everyday I look here to see what your brain storming has come up with. You're really blazin' a trail here, and I look foward to seeing your dream instrument come to life. Well done! (Message edited by jedisan on March 02, 2009) |
hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 500 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 3:29 pm: | |
Updated Neck and side color configuration.
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hendixclarke
Senior Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 501 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 4:05 pm: | |
Thanks Tim. The concept feeds on other ideas. There's so much to this, and with all the warm colors, its really relaxing putting this into some rational perspective where Mica and her staff can see the "mess" I am trying to make. |
gregduboc
Junior Username: gregduboc
Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2008
| Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 5:22 pm: | |
I find your enthusiasm so amazing, Hal! All the effort you are putting on the development of your bass is unbelievable and it is very nice of you to share everything with us. I can only imagine how it is to have such a dream becoming reality. Greg |