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hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 502
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 6:28 pm:   Edit Post

This is "The Club"... I can't express all the things I learned from others on this board and had prospered.

Life is short. I am 44 years old, and I know younger people who are no longer with us. Why go to my grave without trying to fulfill another dream?

Why not do it now... (while I have my health, and good humor to boot)-- let's go at it... let's try to make something better, nobody holds all the decks to this card of life, but only play the hand, we are dealt.
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 503
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post

Lights on, lights off... with a strip along the side of the neck and with the bass in the frontal position, you can see the white striping.

hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 504
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 7:44 pm:   Edit Post

Go got to have this bass with white frontal trim, and Mother of Pearl Boomerangs...

I am thinking -- "B.B.King's "Lucille" white trimmed guitar...

hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 505
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 8:25 pm:   Edit Post

Boomerang direction change...

hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 506
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post

White or Mother of Pearl laminate rap-around on finger board trim would be wonderful...


flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 2191
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post

is there really an order for this or are you a serious crack smoker?
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 507
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post

That must be a nice way in saying, this bass is beautiful. Right Jeff?
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 508
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 1:41 am:   Edit Post

I talked to Mica about clear pickups...

I want them on the Toma_Hawk.

georgie_boy
Senior Member
Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 667
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 6:25 am:   Edit Post

Just LOVE the idea of clear pups!!!

Maybe even clear back plates and covers!!!
Great to see the Guts!!

George
georgie_boy
Senior Member
Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 668
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 6:32 am:   Edit Post

Hal
E-Mail sent to you!

George
tbrannon
Senior Member
Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 999
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 6:36 am:   Edit Post

I like the clear pickup idea- have you ever seen Q-tuners pickups?

http://www.q-tuner.com/

I've never pulled apart an Alembic pickup before and I know the low impedance nature of the pickups probably means the 'guts' look a bit different, but I've seen a couple basses on Talkbass with the Qtuners that looked really nice.
oujeebass
Intermediate Member
Username: oujeebass

Post Number: 148
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 6:57 am:   Edit Post

Hal have you got the TARP funds from Jeff yet? :-)
flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 2192
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 8:13 am:   Edit Post

maybe alembic can find you see through wood....
jedisan
Member
Username: jedisan

Post Number: 53
Registered: 3-2008
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 8:26 am:   Edit Post

Jeff, I think they call that Lucite...
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 509
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 9:10 am:   Edit Post

Great ideals George, and thanks for pictures -- those are awesome guitars. Although having a clear back plate for the Toma_Hawk was never in the cards for me, I do appreciate other ideas with plastic.

The Toma_Hawk, will have Alembic's traditional brass, back-plates.
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 510
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 9:28 am:   Edit Post

I had a phone discussion with Mica on clear pickups, and I was provided pictures of clear pickups on another bass.

In my concept bass, the pickups are to be the exact pickups used for Series I/II basses. However, the Toma_Hawk bass will use ones completely encased in clear plastic (not color black).

Toby, those are awesome pickups, but to uses anything other than Alembic parts i.e; pickups, for the Toma_Hawk Bass would be out of scope for this project.

Thanks for sharing for your point is also shows a company meeting the demands for clear pickups.
tbrannon
Senior Member
Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 1000
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 9:35 am:   Edit Post

Hal,

I knew you weren't going to use anything other than the Alembic pickups. I just thought I'd post an example that I remembered.

Are the example pictures Mica provided from an Alembic bass? If so, would you mind posting them here? I'd love to see how they look. Are the poles, windings visible like on the Q tuner pickups?
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 511
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 9:44 am:   Edit Post

[Now read this very slowly, and think about each word...Jeff]

Jeff, most pickups outer cover, are plastic -- and they come in many wonderful colors.

Some covers are even made of clear or transparent plastic.
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 512
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post

Why I chosen Transparent (Clear) Pickups.

It's obvious.

The sound of Alembic pickups, are so unforgiving accurate; all I could think of is:

Alembic pickups -- "Crystal Glass Clarity."

Therefore, to having transparent Alembic pickups on Alembic basses, including the Toma_Hawk bass, is very fitting...
eligilam
Intermediate Member
Username: eligilam

Post Number: 160
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post

Flax, that's hilarious.
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 513
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 1:19 pm:   Edit Post

Flax,

I guess this redirects (distracts) my attention for a moment, for it entertaining, and believe me, I do need to laugh more... Thanks man.
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 514
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 2:04 pm:   Edit Post

Here you go Toby...

Clear pickups on an Alembic...

http://www3.alembic.com/img/inst/00004_frontviewB.jpg
flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 2193
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 5:36 am:   Edit Post

how about see through strings!
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1364
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 6:18 am:   Edit Post

in the late 70's I had a Cimar, ( Gibson Copy) Marauder which had clear pickus. Looked pretty cool.

So i think Clear alembic pickups should look great. I have no idea what the colour of the inside of the pickups are but I was thinking, that if Alembic are making the pickups as a one off for you, you could probably include an object on the top of the innards of pickup to compliment your bass.
Here is an idea hope you don't mind.



Jazzyvee
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 515
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 7:49 am:   Edit Post

Being a conservative guy, I always wanted the emblem on the back of the bass (as examples seen here). However, after talking with Mica about the position where I wanted the emblem to go originally, she said it was possible, but it would yield a thicker body.

So, I had decided to scrap the idea, because I didn't want a thicker bass, over a simple emblem.

So, I left the idea all together until I was inspired again... (Kind of like creating new music...)

I kicked the idea around over the week, and decided to have emblem placed behind the bass, but this time... behind back side of the crown.

With the emblem on top and in plain view (not blocked by my growing waist line) and with solid wood to contrast the emblem, it's a win win...
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 516
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 8:10 am:   Edit Post

Jazzy,

The depiction of the emblem being placed somewhere on the pickup (inside, outside) would be more complicated, than what meets the eyes.

Also from a aesthetic perspective, I didn't want to take away the sheer sublime look of an ice cube and light reflections and shadows without something blocking them.

With the emblem on the pickup, they look like a new pickup brand.

I can hear it now... "Man, what brand is those pickups with the INDIAN feather on them..." :-)

That would drive me insane...

You know what I am saying...? :-)
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 517
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 8:50 am:   Edit Post

One last thing on the emblem...

The emblem will be made with a real materials: sea shells, obsidian and colored glass in other words, a mosaic menagerie.

This is why I said, it's more complicated...

If the emblem was just a sticker... well that's very do-able Jazzy :-)
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1366
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 9:04 am:   Edit Post

No problem, I get your picture.

Jazzyvee
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2136
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post

Hey Jazzy, even the original Gibson Marauder had clear plastic pups - a Tele/Strat type bridge pup, and a humbucker.

I played a Cimar J copy for many years - really cut my teeth on that.
blackelan
Member
Username: blackelan

Post Number: 65
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post

You should have the 12th fret inlay more like A Perfect Circle band logo instead of offset.
[img]http://www.davesrock.com/static/aperfectcircle.jpg[/img]
altgrendel
Junior
Username: altgrendel

Post Number: 43
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post

If you're getting brass back plates, how about get the image enameled on the plate?


Just a thought.
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 518
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 6:09 am:   Edit Post

The symbol of the 12th fret is the horoscope sign of Cancer (the month and day I was born).

Also, born under the Chinese horoscope, "Year of the Dragon"..., but that symbol was already taken...
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 519
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 6:33 am:   Edit Post

Yeah, the brass back plate is an open canvas. I can see adding craving out a stenciled image of the Toma Hawk Icon. Perhaps even a carved image to the point it breaks the walls of the brass. (This would allow air to cool the electronics) However, I would have a screen behind the plate, to keep lent out.

In any case, this work (if desired afterwords) would be after this bass was built and delivered with the plates whole.
moonliner
Junior
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 18
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 9:30 pm:   Edit Post

When are you pulling the trigger and making it happen?
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 520
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 5:54 am:   Edit Post

I all ready pulled the trigger... and it's happening...
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 2174
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 6:07 am:   Edit Post

Shouldn't that be "swung the axe". :-)

OO
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 2175
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 6:08 am:   Edit Post

Or is that "swang"?

OO
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3587
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 6:18 am:   Edit Post

"swung the swang"? Yea, I think that about sums it up! lol

Bill,, tgo
moonliner
Junior
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 19
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 9:28 am:   Edit Post

Now we're swingin'
robinc
Intermediate Member
Username: robinc

Post Number: 127
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post

ya'll have a sharp sense of humor!
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 521
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post

Clear High-Hat Alembic (Lincoln) knobs on the list...
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 522
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post

Clear selector switch knob, on the list...
altgrendel
Junior
Username: altgrendel

Post Number: 45
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 3:27 pm:   Edit Post

And a Plexiglas body, too?

:-)
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 523
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 4:45 pm:   Edit Post

Altgrendel, just in case you didn't read prior post..

The logic...

If it's plastic, I am considering having the parts become translucent plastic, and not colored plastic.

Simple right...

Nowhere in this design, I wish to exchange wood or metal components into plastic ie, body neck, bridge, strings etc.

WHY NOT...?

Because those parts are not made from plastic.


I can't even imagine A PLASTIC Alembic Bass.
I would love someone to make one.

Not for me...

You had me laughing so hard, I almost fell out of my chair :-)

PLASTIC PARTS: Pickups, Knobs, and selector switches.

Therefore, whether I choose clear plastic parts, or colored ones, (guess what...) they are still plastic.

Ok, let me take an official position on the parts...

Oh, I already did...:-)
altgrendel
Junior
Username: altgrendel

Post Number: 47
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 4:02 am:   Edit Post

Yes, it was a joke. Glad it made you laugh.

:-)
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3594
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 5:28 am:   Edit Post

Hey Hal, maybe you could get Alembic to build you a DS5 in a plexi box? And maybe even the 5-pin cable in clear plastic insulation! And, of course, you have to get some see-through picks to play with!

Bill, tgo
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 2179
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 5:54 am:   Edit Post

LOL, Bloody-Marys for breakfast again Bill?

OO
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 524
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 6:04 am:   Edit Post

Bill you don't have to lose any sleep... this bass will look awesome when its done... I promise.
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 5943
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post

I don't think that clear plastic knobs will wind up looking too good - you'll see the bushing and shaft of the pot, plus the holes for the two set screws and the set screws themselves. These holes will be milky unless you have them buffed, which would be rather costly. Unless you can find a 1/4" shaft knob for the pots and a 1/8" shaft knob for the selector switch that is already made, having these parts custom made will probably be shockingly expensive.

Also note that knobs can be changed at any time! So if you start with a standard knob, and then later find the knob you love, you can always switch them out.

I know you're not going for a clear plastic backplate, but on that note, in case anyone else gets any ideas, that won't quite work because we need to complete the shield with the interior of the backplate, so if it were clear plastic, you'd see the silver paint through it.
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 525
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 2:26 pm:   Edit Post

Therefore, in moving forward -- The Toma_Hawk bass will be built with traditional standard black plastic knobs and selector switches.

Thank you Mica,

Hal-

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