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toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 4:01 pm:   Edit Post

I am thinking Medieval times of dragons and magic...

The Jester was the roll of keeping the very serious discussions and decisions with an added touch of comical wisdom.

A Coco bolo bass I imagine so far...


tmoney61092
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Post Number: 202
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 6:34 pm:   Edit Post

no controls? is this one you want to have built for you or just a design to have in Alembic's database?

~Taylor Watterson
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 6
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Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 9:05 pm:   Edit Post

Both.

After looking at the Alembic Dragon Wing, John Entwistle's Buzzard, the Alembic Spider and Lieber Explore -- all fostered some very interesting shapes which represented a theme.

In comparison to those basses I mentioned, the Jester bass design is also eclectic and would fit within the same class somewhat...

As far as controls go, I hadn't figured out where the controls will go. However, what I do know -- in my mind, I see this bass as a SII.

However, for now I am going to need to continue to refine my drawings.

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on September 05, 2009)
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 7
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Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post

I am going totally Medieval, on this bass.

The Coco Bolo is completely yummy and very fitting.





(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on September 06, 2009)
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 2:54 pm:   Edit Post

I want an elegant aged Old World look. Brass hardware is a must.

the_jester.jpg
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 9
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Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 3:22 pm:   Edit Post

Greater refinements...

toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 10
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Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post

The Crown of the Jester...

This bass is is very unique from top to bottom. I really love this bass.

I believe the crown is balanced to the theme I am trying to make...

Any constructive comments?

toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 11
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Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post

toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 8:30 pm:   Edit Post

Close up render of the Jester Bass...
Gold or Brass hardware.

jazzyvee
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Post Number: 1646
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post

I think this bass needs a mighty contrasting tyrant bass to accompany it. Maybe a 5, 6 or more stringed bass.

Your medieval theme makes me think of the wonderful track by Return to Forever. "Duel of the Jester and the Tyrant".
Maybe some inspiration from Chick himself even.

http://www.return2forever.com/index.cfm/pk/view/cd/NAA/cdid/407728/pid/400132
Jazzyvee
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 1:13 pm:   Edit Post

toma_hawk01
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Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 1:28 pm:   Edit Post

Jazzyvee,

The best Jesters, are the greatest entertainers.
altgrendel
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Post Number: 106
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 1:52 pm:   Edit Post

I'm trying to figure out how to ask this without being insulting.

I'm curious as to how the body shape invokes the theme of a Jester for you.

Curious minds want to know.
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 7:05 pm:   Edit Post

No insults -- your question was very well taken.

This bass represent an abstraction of what a Jester to me symbolize. One of mystery, music, and joy to the opened heart.

If you look at the lower left corner of the bass, you will notice a "pointy" or sharpest area, which looks like the Cap of the Jester, and to the lower right, looks like a long skinny chin.

If you look at the top end of the bass, "the crown" it looks like a Jester's cap.

If you look at the full body of the bass, it looks like a very jolly and happy persons shadow of arms held high, and legs looks like their jumping... with sheer joys of life.

Oh, and one last important thing -- this entire object, can makes beautiful music.

If the "Toma_Hawk" design was about taking the shortest distances, to get to a destination, the "Jester bass" is totally the opposite -- it's about taking the scenic route... Its about taking time to enjoy myths/legends and great treasures.



(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on September 07, 2009)
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 16
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Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 8:49 pm:   Edit Post

A Shirley Bassey songs -

There's always a joker in the pack
There's always a lonely clown
The poor laughing fool falls on his back
And everyone laughs when he's down

There's always a funny man in the game
But he's only funny by mistake
But everyone laughs at him just the same
They don't see his lonely heart break

They don't care, as long as there's a Jester, just a fool
As foolish as he could be
There's always a Joker, that's the rule
But fate deals the hand and I see
The Joker is me...

The Joker is me.

"We are all Jesters, for nobody escapes the personae of a Joker..."

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on September 07, 2009)
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post

I remember we talked about a battery meter... Well, I see this bass with a vintage old-style needle gauge, with a lovely integrated Plexiglas window.

I will render a depiction of this and how I see this working...
toma_hawk01
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Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post

The battery meter (the circular object, to the right...) has a spring (on/off) switch control for immediately checking the 9 volt batteries. The spring switch designed to prevent un-warranted switch clicks.

The position where the battery meter is placed, is no accident. It look almost like an eye, but its position (while strapped) to enable the user the immediate abilities to gauge the battery life on the fly. I love analog meters because, they add a antique appeal to simplicity and detail elegance like a Swiss made, time piece.





The dream lives on...



(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on September 09, 2009)
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 4:36 pm:   Edit Post

Here's a larger picture of the Jester Bass.

It's really growing on me... It's a viciously possessive object. Don't stair too long... It pulls you in to its funk!

Hee heeeh eeeeh!



(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on September 09, 2009)
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post

toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post

I see this bass as a Fretless Series II.

I should have the concept completed by 2010.

I am still undecided on wood configuration and neck measurements. I am sure Mica and Susan could aid me. This topic will resurface in the future if it is God's will.

This is one of those projects, I can only envision Alembic taking this to the field goal...

I am loving this bass big time.

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on September 28, 2009)
tmoney61092
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Post Number: 215
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post

I love the body shape but I'm not overly crazy about the headstock, I honestly like this one more than the Toma_Hawk, not dissing it though because that one also. I am looking forword to possibly seeing this thread

~Taylor Watterson
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post

I believe it is very important to have an understanding of scale, because at first glance,
this bass looks small.

The image below show an outline of The Jester in comparison to an Alembic Small Body bass.

As you can see, The Jester is quite larger, in proportion to the elements and components required.

Where the Toma_Hawk design caters to a
"FUNKNIFICENTS", The Jester caters to an under represented, yet high-in-demand need for the "UN-Freted" form of FUNKINESS...

Names like, Percy Jones, Bunny Brunel and of course the Great Jaco Pastorius comes to mind and heart.

I will pray for the return of the (5) Spirits to make this bass, I hope they are not afraid to visit us again :-)






(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on September 28, 2009)
tmoney61092
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Post Number: 216
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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 1:42 pm:   Edit Post

I love the body shape but I'm not overly crazy about the headstock, I honestly like this one more than the Toma_Hawk, not dissing it though because that one also. I am looking forword to possibly seeing this thread

~Taylor Watterson
tmoney61092
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Post Number: 217
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 1:47 pm:   Edit Post

oops, didn't think it posted the first time, sorry, think you can remove it dave?

~Taylor Watterson
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 98
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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 5:42 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Taylor,

The crown is whimsical as a Jester's hat goes..

As far as looks goes, it's personally very difficult for me to choose one bass over another.

This is a limitation on on my part.


toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 99
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 6:24 pm:   Edit Post

toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 100
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Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 6:52 pm:   Edit Post

The Ace, The Queen/King, and The Joker




(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on September 28, 2009)
pierreyves
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Post Number: 448
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post

crazy!! can you stop to invade our mail box ???
jacko
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Post Number: 2433
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 4:28 am:   Edit Post

Pierreyves. If you edit your profile, you can customise your email notification so that you only get the mails you want.

Graeme
pierreyves
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Post Number: 449
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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 4:55 am:   Edit Post

hélas, no I cant choice what thread I don't want, only topics.
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 101
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 6:15 am:   Edit Post

toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 8:39 am:   Edit Post

In order to deactivate receiving emails from specific users who post...

Alembic would have to provide members rights of their entire dynamic membership database roster (new and current members).

The solution seems sensible, but highly impracticable. However, if this solution becomes a project, it don't take a rocket scientist to know, the cost for such project will funnel to a price increase of their products.

It's cheaper for us to use the delete key on our email application.

Lastly, the user who creates a thread in any one of the categories, has absolutely no idea what other members check for their preferences. Therefore, if anyone receives an email on a topic(s) "they selected" and rants and rave as if the poster has any say in the matter, a worthless cry. People who add content, has no knowledge as to who automatically received an automated email.

The best solution is to look for trends where people you like/dislike hang out. If the chances are great, you would get an updated email, check or deselect the topic. This is what I do.

I only select reply on topics, and all the other topics are unchecked.

Works great.





(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on September 29, 2009)
hydrargyrum
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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post

I dislike the idea of filtering folks out. It is easy enough to not reply to someone when you don't like what they have to say. Public arguments seldom reflect well on any of the participants.
davehouck
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Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 7:55 am:   Edit Post

A solution to the filtering question has been posted here.
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 115
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 8:12 am:   Edit Post

Thank you David.

I use Thunder Bird email. I will test the methods suggested.

I'll stay updated from folks who give positive vibes, and those I learn from the most.

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on October 02, 2009)
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 118
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post

As a results of my testing in screening names from entering my email account automatically and seamlessly was performed successfully with Thunderbird 2.0xxx

Works like a charm!

But, with (1) T-Bytes of storage on my system, I have loads of space for simple emails and those beautiful pictures of amazing Alembic basses!

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on October 02, 2009)
toma_hawk01
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Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 9:59 pm:   Edit Post

otis
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Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 6:28 pm:   Edit Post

Hal, You really are an imaginative, creative soul. I really hope to meet you, someday, and see your completed instruments, and hopefully play them!

Peace;)

Frank
toma_hawk01
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Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post

I am hoping to hookup soon with you and others at Alembic gatherings.

I will be taking notes on the reactions of people as they take the Toma_Hawk for a spin.
toma_hawk01
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Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 9:44 am:   Edit Post

The upper horn needed some attention...

jacko
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Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 2:30 am:   Edit Post

The lower bout (with all the controls) looks too heavy in comparison with the rest of the body to me.

Graeme
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 9:51 am:   Edit Post

I disagree Jack.

Here's a comparison of a Famous Exploiter bass with my Jester.

From first glance, the Exploiter looks "Top-heavy" (the pointed area, at the top end -- of the body...) but from judging it's popularity its a very comfortable bass even for me.

So when it comes to the Jester, from the stand point of balance, the Jester "looks" very balance from the start.

But let's be frank about it, eyes are deceiving...

However for me personally, even if the Jester bass was bottom heavy, I would call that a win.

I love the "Chin" (where the controls are...) of the Jester bass.






(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on November 18, 2009)
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 330
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post

I'd visualize a diamond pattern on the fretless neck, similar to this....

I couldn't imagine this bass not having the diamonds. This is a must have. This is just a drawing... In real life, this bass would upstage anything on stage.

I see this bass in my heart!!!





(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on November 18, 2009)
toma_hawk01
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Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 3:39 pm:   Edit Post

toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 351
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 2:56 pm:   Edit Post

My famous army of CCC :-)

The recipe is somewhere on Alembic.com
Believe me, my recipe is worth more than searching for...

Happy Holidays!



(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on November 26, 2009)
the_jester
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 4:37 pm:   Edit Post

Wolf, remember when we talked about sliding pickups... :-)

Well, I am thinking about this utility for the Jester Bass my friend.

I been working out the design and engineering bugs and I came to a very good solution and still maintain the beauty of the wood.

Each pickup will be controlled by 2 knobs,
respectfully: Knob (Y) and Knob (Z).

1. Knob (Y) controls position(s)(Slide): (left right adjustments).
2. Knob (Z) controls position(s): (height adjustments).

With (2) pickups, a total of 4 knobs would be required.

The Knobs would look and feel like any knob used on Alembics.

Any and all comments are welcome...



(Message edited by the_jester on December 20, 2009)
the_jester
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 5:50 pm:   Edit Post

Here's a render with the pickups hidden behind the laminate.

I love the science of this mechanism which I will openly and freely share with Alembic. I am working on a prototype and things are looking pretty good.

Sliding pickups on The Jester Bass... ((((thinking...)))... I love it!)

This would make a beautiful Art piece, if enlarged and framed.

Peace and Love -






(Message edited by the_jester on December 20, 2009)
the_jester
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Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 8:01 am:   Edit Post

Each pickup will be controlled by 2 knobs,
respectfully: Knob (Y) and Knob (Z).

1. Knob (Y) controls position(s)(Slide): (left right adjustments).
2. Knob (Z) controls position(s): (height adjustments).

With (2) pickups, a total of 4 knobs would be required.

The Knobs would look and feel like any knob used on Alembics.

The pickups on any bass, should only be adjusted as high as the fret board; pickup adjusted higher would collide with the free moving strings.

Therefore as a solution for the Jester Bass, the frets board, should be connected and merge smoothly, and "evenly" with the whole whole body.
This also assures the pickup(s) (if adjusted higher with control Z) would be as high of any bass height.

A Dream Alembic Fretless Bass with sliding pickups.

Any and all comments are welcome...



(Message edited by the_jester on December 20, 2009)
the_jester
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 9:21 am:   Edit Post

Happy Holiday's and warm notes!

GOD BLESS EVERYONE!

the_jester
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Username: the_jester

Post Number: 48
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 2:28 pm:   Edit Post



The slot in the middle is lit to show where the pickup(s) are dynamically located. Knobs Z and X are positioned close enough to access the internal components to enable my adjustments while in active playing.

A Plexiglas (clear) membrane, will act as a barrier to keep out dust, debris, sweat and dirt from entering through the pickup slot.

I never seen anything quite like this from any developer, so hopefully this might inspire sharper minds to help my dream fretless become into reality.

This should be a fun "Alembic project" for next year 2010.

Sound Controls includes:
1 Volume
1 Tone
1 Q switch

Peace and Love -



(Message edited by the_jester on December 23, 2009)

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