| Author | Message | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 934 Registered: 6-2002 |
Because doublenecks are so neck heavy, perhaps two short scale 4 string necks on a small standard body. I'd like the necks parallel to each other (not angled apart). I hold my Basses with the neck at around 10 o'clock. One fretted and one fretless neck make the most sense and are the most playable. The woods, inlays and electronics will remain my secret since they're more a matter of personal preference. But that would be my basic configuration. | ||
| tbrannon
Senior Member Username: tbrannon Post Number: 1233 Registered: 11-2004 |
Any ideas on wood types for body, top and neck lams? Edit: oops, reading comprehension problems. You stated it above. (Message edited by Tbrannon on September 16, 2010) | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 935 Registered: 6-2002 |
I can't reveal those details, because I wouldn't want someone else to build it first. But I do have a pretty nice picture in my mind.  | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 936 Registered: 6-2002 |
I would have the fretless neck on top, since it requires more careful intonation. I think a fretless lower neck would be much more difficult to play - it's too far away and your view is obstructed by the upper neck. My doubleneck should be player friendly as the top priority. Function first, beauty second. | ||
| tbrannon
Senior Member Username: tbrannon Post Number: 1234 Registered: 11-2004 |
You said small standard body- should we expect a double crown headstock combo? I agree with having the fretless on top. How do you plan on having the necks parallel? To get proper spacing between the necks, won't the body have to be W-I-D-E (as in from top bout to lower bout)? | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 937 Registered: 6-2002 |
I like the format of the Gibson EDS-1275. I'd have the necks as close together as possible. Maybe have opposing inline headstocks. I do like the look the crown headstock though. | ||
| tmoney61092
Senior Member Username: tmoney61092 Post Number: 510 Registered: 9-2008 |
So have the headstocks something like this? http://www.google.com/m/search?site=images&source=mog&hl=en&gl=us&client=safari&q=Billy%20sheehan%20double#i=1 this will be one amazing bass ~Taylor | ||
| tbrannon
Senior Member Username: tbrannon Post Number: 1235 Registered: 11-2004 |
Oooh- I like that Sheehan headstock layout. | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 938 Registered: 6-2002 |
Perhaps stay with the Crown headstocks and use banjo-type tuners like on the Gibson Firebird. The keys are completely behind the headstock allowing both necks to be much closer together. | ||
| hieronymous
Senior Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 844 Registered: 1-2005 |
Hey, how did I miss this thread?!! ;) The tuners definitely get in the way on my doubleneck. I like the shortscale idea a lot! The small standard body shape was supposedly influenced by the SG/EB-3 body shape, was it not? (I seem to recall reading that somewhere) In which case your idea makes perfect sense! I hope this thing gets made! I personally would love an 8-string/4-string doubleneck, both fretted. Or maybe 8-string/6-string! Both short scale, with the 6-string tuned tuned EADGBE... | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 939 Registered: 6-2002 |
(Message edited by rami on September 20, 2010) | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 940 Registered: 6-2002 |
I think short scale makes more sense for a doubleneck; a lot less stretching to access the necks and it's better for weight and balance. I also have a 5 string Rogue and it's a BEAST! A doubleneck version like the current COTM would be (for me) almost unplayable. To play the lower fretless neck, I'd have the upper neck passing over my nose! It is beautiful and a source of inspiration, but not for me. I'd like something I can actually play and put serious milege on. | ||
| hieronymous
Senior Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 845 Registered: 1-2005 |
I definitely think you have the right idea with the fretless neck on top. | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 941 Registered: 6-2002 |
Thanks Harry. I think it makes the most sense. If the lower neck is too difficult to access, there'd be no point in having it. I need full and easy access to the entire fingerboard. In the last few years, I've really gotten into playing Bach cello Suites and violin Partitas and Sonatas. When you play Bach, you REALLY play the WHOLE Bass! And there's NOTHING as spectacular sounding as Bach played on an Alembic. An Alembic Bass and Bach complement each other like Champagne and Caviar! (Message edited by rami on September 21, 2010) | ||
| chrisalembic
Intermediate Member Username: chrisalembic Post Number: 134 Registered: 3-2009 |
Rami, I would love to hear Bach played on an Alembic... you have any recordings of that? | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 1304 Registered: 5-2009 |
Yes , ________I have loved Bach since I was a small child. | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 942 Registered: 6-2002 |
Hi Chris, Sorry I don't have any recordings of myself playing my Alembics, although I have been asked before to record those Bach works. Perhaps sometime in the near future. | ||
| mica
Moderator Username: mica Post Number: 6965 Registered: 6-2000 |
Don't forget to record the Inventions too! | ||
| chrisalembic
Intermediate Member Username: chrisalembic Post Number: 135 Registered: 3-2009 |
I dont want to hijack your thread, but have you heard Jonas Hellborg play Bach on his 6 string acoustic bass guitar? It is strung from E to E, I believe (or E to F, in fourths). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WelduVCB03g Okay back to the Double Neck :-) | ||
| room037
Advanced Member Username: room037 Post Number: 336 Registered: 9-2003 |
Hi rami, I also agree the double shorty and fretless top, but 8 strings (or 12 strings bass) ? I think the banjo-tuners are much heavy, and these are not for bass strings. It will be fit for upper octave strings of the 8 strings bass. By the way, I found this picture on 80's Fernandes catalog.  Eiji | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 943 Registered: 6-2002 |
That's a cool picture. I've never been a fan of 8 string basses. Octave strings sound great on a 12 string guitar, but I feel the effect to be a little weird sounding for a Bass. Just my opinion. Cheers, | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 944 Registered: 6-2002 |
The tuners on the Gibson Firebird are not actual banjo tuners but in the style. Perhaps something like those can be made to accommodate Bass strings. There are also examples like the Gibson EB-1 Bass with a slotted headstock and tuners at right angles to the headstock (i.e. pointing out the back). I'm sure something like that can be made by Alembic. Oh! What a DREAM!!!!!! The Sonata #1 in G minor! | ||
| pace
Senior Member Username: pace Post Number: 622 Registered: 4-2004 |
I believe there's a Ned Steinberger design that is planetary (like the scruggs & firebird tuners) definitely for guitar, haven't seen them on a bass yet.... | ||
| fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler Post Number: 1161 Registered: 5-2006 |
Here's an Alembic with slotted headstock: Click here The knowledge is there ;-) | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 946 Registered: 6-2002 |
I really like both ideas. Slotted heads would help reduce the weight of the necks as well. Imagine an Alembic doubleneck with slotted headstocks - very, very cool! | ||
| rami
Senior Member Username: rami Post Number: 947 Registered: 6-2002 |
Check this out!!!   From a 1953 Gibson EB-1. Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!!! |
