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ed_too
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post

ps. I’ve got tickets for Phil and Friends playing out here on Sept. 21st. I can hardly wait to hear him play TOV – I’ll post in the TOV thread afterwards.

Regards,

Ed
pace
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 5:39 pm:   Edit Post

Yeah, yeah, I know Bill.... just busting your chops... :-)

....good story though...
davehouck
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 5:42 pm:   Edit Post

First video. This appears to be video from last night's debut of the new bass. Phil is singing Box of Rain. The video is dark and from the side, and you can't hardly see Phil or the bass; but you can hear it. And at the end, the band leaves the stage and Phil puts the bass in its stand; and you can see the LEDs all lit up.
hammer
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 8:55 pm:   Edit Post

Just listened to the Youtube video. Cleanest, clearest bass sound I've heard from Phil in both his recorded (live) and the live performances I've been able to catch with PL&F and Further in years...

Rusty:

I've been following your build closely. Love how its looking as color is added and I'm jealous of the headstock. It's going to be incredible! Get well soon!
edwin
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post

Hm, that video sounded a little less than clear to me when it comes to the bass (given my experience of both Alembic's and Mr. Lesh's tone). It sounded like a somewhat off axis recording in a location that was subject to upper bass standing waves, so a bit lacking in highs and a bit boomy in the upper bass and lower mids. I did like the fact that each register was very balanced, but I would expect an even better tone right in front of the amp or from a direct signal. It sure whetted my appetite for more!
rv_bass
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Posted on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 3:27 am:   Edit Post

Listened to it on the train this morning rolling along the New England coast at sunrise. A lovely way to start the day!
davehouck
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Posted on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 8:23 am:   Edit Post

Edwin's note that "each register was very balanced" was the thing that stood out for me as well.
hieronymous
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Posted on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 2:06 pm:   Edit Post

Been wondering where I should post this pic - this seems like as good as any!



Snapped this after everything was over - Phil's sound was very dark, almost no high-end content at all - wondered if it was filter settings, but I guess turning off your treble at the amp helps?!!

I took the pic to see how the Enhance knob was set, really did not expect the tone control settings!

phil lesh amp settings

(Message edited by mica on September 05, 2014)
edwin
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Posted on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 3:08 pm:   Edit Post

Interesting. Are the strings round wound? Was the dumping of the treble a way to compensate and give them more of a flat or ground wound character?

The recording definitely represented a dark tone, but I assumed it was because of where the mics were in relation to the amp, but maybe I was wrong.
mica
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Posted on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 5:02 pm:   Edit Post

They are rounds... for now. That may change in the near future.

Harry, did you notice that everything was missing highs? I thought even the vocals sounded like they were going through these settings.

What I appreciated the most from the performance was how when Phil played quietly, the bass still sounded full, just quieter. Also the audience quieted down and paid attention as the band played with quiet dynamics.

Tonight I get to hear it in the Grate Room! Plus Scott Law on his Alembic guitar and Lebo from ALO is sitting in as well. Looking forward to tonight!
susan
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Posted on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 5:23 pm:   Edit Post

Hi all...got an email from Phil about an hour ago...he has named her:

"Khaleesi...Mother of Dragons!"

Mica and I love Game of Thrones...I think it's the perfect name for that fiery looking bass.
mtjam
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Posted on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 5:50 pm:   Edit Post

Well done, Susan, Mica, & Co.! This bass is even more awesome than I thought it would be. Phil will achieve a tone with this instrument that hasn't been heard from him for many years. I probably won't get to experience it live any time soon, so I hope to see Phil play it in a webcast in the near future.

Now if we can just get one of my other bass heroes, Mike Gordon, to go Alembic...
s_wood
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Posted on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 6:23 pm:   Edit Post

I have often wished that Dave Schools of Widespread Panic would go Alembic. To my ears, he is an Alembic guy though he doesn't know it yet...
tree63
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Posted on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 6:38 pm:   Edit Post

Nice bass Phil, it looks gorgeous...hope to hear it in person soon...as soon as you come out east...Alembic basses connect us...
rustyg61
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Posted on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 7:42 pm:   Edit Post

Harry has solved the mystery with his photo. I have the same amp, Eden WT 800 & as you can see, Phil has both the high band on the parametric & the treble gain set at -15db, so ALL the highs are gone. Probably just culture shock after hearing the pristine clean of the Alembic sound again after all these years!



wfmandmusic
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Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 4:23 am:   Edit Post

This is great news for the Alembic family. I can't wait to hear this bass played on a big stage after he tweaks it out!
davehouck
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Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 3:06 pm:   Edit Post

New, and improved, video.

This is from Friday night the 29th and features two Alembics being played by two very good players. It's a great performance all around by the whole band; a great lineup having a lot of fun.
wfmandmusic
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Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 8:57 pm:   Edit Post

Yes great players indeed. It looks like Phil is having a great time. Is that you Dave singing over the recording? :-)
davehouck
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Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 9:00 pm:   Edit Post

No; I don't sing that good.

:-)
jazzyvee
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Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post

That sounds really good from he few minutes I've listened but will have to put some time in and watch it on my tv screen and sound system soon. Thanks for posting Dave
811952
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Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post

:-)
llobsterbass
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Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 3:04 pm:   Edit Post

Can't wait to hear Phil play this beauty sometime!

Mike Gordon has had an Alembic since at least the 1990s. I'm not sure whether he's ever played it onstage but I've seen backstage practice photos with it. Pretty sure it was a five-string Epic.
cozmik_cowboy
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Posted on Friday, September 05, 2014 - 7:48 am:   Edit Post

Just made time to listen to Dave's link; prudy dern good! Can someone ID the drummer, acoustic player, keyboardist, & Richard Manuel, Jr with the Tele?

Peter
davehouck
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Posted on Friday, September 05, 2014 - 2:45 pm:   Edit Post

The Alembic player is Scott Law.
The tele player is Ross James.
The accoustic player is Dan Lebowitz.
The drummer is Alex Koford.
The video doesn't show the keyboard player, but I'm guessing it was Jason Crosby since he was on the calendar.

It looks like they were having a lot of fun; and it certainly sounds like a good night.

I just found confirmation that it was indeed Jason Crosby on keyboards.

(Message edited by davehouck on September 05, 2014)
mtjam
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Posted on Friday, September 05, 2014 - 4:57 pm:   Edit Post

I hear that Phil & Friends will have a webcast tonight from the Lock'n festival on nugs.tv. It's a little pricey, but will surely feature some nice views of that new bass! Very tempting...
cozmik_cowboy
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Posted on Friday, September 05, 2014 - 7:28 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks, Dave. Fine players, all. They do indeed look like they're enjoying it -
I especially noticed how Phil smiled the second he picked up Kahleesi, and didn't stop.

Peter
mica
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Posted on Friday, September 05, 2014 - 7:43 pm:   Edit Post

We are enjoying the webcast very much! The band sounds great.
mtjam
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Posted on Friday, September 05, 2014 - 8:33 pm:   Edit Post

Great to see Phil having so much fun tonight!
germansal
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Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 7:02 pm:   Edit Post

AMAZING BASSˇˇˇˇAS ALWAYS....
germansal
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Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 7:04 pm:   Edit Post

I THINK YOU SHOULD PUT A VIDEO,TO LISTEN THIS BASS..I HOPE SO...
germansal
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Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 7:13 pm:   Edit Post

OOOOOPSSSSˇ I VE RECENTLY NOTICED THAT THERES A VIDEO.....
pace
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Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 6:12 pm:   Edit Post

I'm at forest hills right now, and this is the set list I've waited over a decade for Phil to drop, and a tone that is absolutely to die for......
edwin
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Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 7:23 pm:   Edit Post

Wow, he got the old band back together! I look forward to hearing a recording. I bet he's getting the SII dialed in quite nicely.
pace
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Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post

OMG, Edwin. Give tonight's show a listen, even an aud tape if one is up on archive. I was right behind the board for the whole show. His bass sounded amazing.

Btw, I ran into a guy w a red Alembic shirt pre show~ Pete/Kilowatt?!?....
moonliner
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Posted on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 3:14 am:   Edit Post

Here ya go!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmTde46m46Q
kilowatt
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Posted on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 6:06 am:   Edit Post

Mike,

That wasn't me, but I wish it was. I really wanted to get out to this show, but I had too much to do. I bet it was great with that lineup.

Regards,
Pete
ed_too
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Posted on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 6:47 am:   Edit Post

I was there last night too – behind the board, a few rows up. Everything that Mike said, ditto. Favorite, line-up, set list, tone. I look to Morning Dew as a sort of bench mark. Went way down low and back up – full and clear. Oh yes, Edwin, he’s got it dialed in.
Ed
pace
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Posted on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post

Ed, we must've been in the same section. Compared to the Modulus' or Ritters, the new bass has so much more depth of character. Having that one ebony stringer goes a long way helping the fundamental linger a little longer which is something I'm not used to hearing on him. Does anyone know what else was in last nights signal chain~ it was a monster rig!
edwin
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Posted on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post

Thanks for the link! The bass does sound good, although I bet it sounded even better in the room than on the recording. Punchy and even like the Modulus but without the clang, etc. I love the way the attack and envelope of the note responds to changes in picking (my Starfire does something similar), with different tonal ranges coming in and out.

Phil's singing has gotten a lot stronger, great to hear!

Great energy in the band all around, although I still have an aversion to Warren Haynes in this context, especially his tone, particularly with the Leslie simulator. Love him in other settings, but this never did it for me. I guess I'm too used to hearing a rhythm guitarist immersed in McCoy Tyner, horn parts, and string quartets bridging Phil and the drummer, instead of straight strumming. :-)

He's pretty killin' on Morning Dew, though, which is a great version. On the link I posted below, you can hear the fidelity of the bass a lot better, including the high end attack.

(Message edited by edwin on September 22, 2014)
edwin
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Posted on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post

And it's up on archive with a bit better audio quality:

https://archive.org/details/plq2014-09-21.km184
jazzyvee
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Posted on Friday, October 03, 2014 - 3:07 am:   Edit Post

I wonder if this is going to result in a Phil Lesh Signature style bass being developed?

Jazzyvee
bigredbass
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Posted on Friday, October 03, 2014 - 8:08 am:   Edit Post

I would definitely suggest they keep those patterns. This looks (in the pics, anyway) as one of the few human-sized six-string basses I've seen. Most of them with those diving-board width necks just don't look liveable.

No wonder that the almighty himself, Anthony Jackson, has to play that monstrous 36" scale signature guitar sitting down. I've read his thoughts about the evolution of his design, and understand them completely, but even at six-foot and 44-long, I could not imagine trying to navigate that beast. Phil's axe, it just looks perfect if I were diving off into a six.

J o e y
5a_quilt_top
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Posted on Friday, October 03, 2014 - 9:29 am:   Edit Post

And what better team than Phil and Alembic to successfully navigate through those logistical hurdles and devise an ELEGANT solution to the "manageable 6-string bass" puzzle.

I'll confess, I wasn't interested in one those for the same reasons Joey mentions above (jeeez...a 5-string can be a bit of a load for me), but this bad boy has me interested.
flaxattack
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2014 - 3:12 pm:   Edit Post

Gongrats Wickershams. The nice part is the same type of bass they make for us.
I'm curious as to the string spacing.
Looks like Wolf?
http://www3.alembic.com/img/inst/13470_bodyfrontL.jpg

i often wondered why phils sound was so "muddy" live on audience tapes but clear on sbds....
next up ? a six string godfather?
i love a crisp sound. right billy?
flaxattack
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2014 - 3:13 pm:   Edit Post

Gongrats Wickershams. The nice part is that its the same type of bass they make for us.
I'm curious as to the string spacing.
Looks like Wolf?
http://www3.alembic.com/img/inst/13470_bodyfrontL.jpg

i often wondered why phils sound was so "muddy" live on audience tapes but clear on sbds....
next up ? a six string godfather?
i love a crisp sound. right billy?
mica
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2014 - 5:33 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks, Flax - it's .50 between strings at the bridge. You would love the neck!

Yeah, it's not super crazy custom, but the neck recipe, scale length and string spacing are a tad unusual for a 6-string bass.
flaxattack
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Posted on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 2:35 pm:   Edit Post

holy jerry Garcia
thats real close to my neck.32 scale with 1/2 spacing
i think i am 1/2 inch at the 24th fret.
. the "shallow" C shape is what tony made for me on wolf
gee wouldn't it be neat if i could sneak wolf in when he plays the capital. sure he can try it out
echo008
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2014 - 7:12 am:   Edit Post

Does anyone know the weight?
Thanks
T
mica
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 2:26 pm:   Edit Post

Cool show from last weekend at TXR:

http://youtu.be/-l4-CbYH7tk?list=UUdksSRVYuocSzyGucMNKvWg

Phil Lesh, Stanley Jordan, John Kadlecik, Jeff Chimenti, Tony Leone, Alex Koford

I didn't get to attend, but I've been enjoying this video!
davehouck
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 3:36 pm:   Edit Post

I watched this show this afternoon; it's absolutely wonderful!

First - there are two Alembics on stage, and in addition to looking beautiful, they both sound great.

Second - I'm assuming from some of Phil's remarks that this is the first time Jordan has played with the Friends; and this lineup was just wonderful together. To quote one remark from Phil during the show, "Wow! Stanley Jordan!"

The vocals were great as well. John sang most of the leads, while Phil sang some as well. It may just be me, but it seems to me that Phil's singing is getting better and better. The three part harmonies were great.

And the set list was great as well.

Just a wonderful show!
sonicus
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 3:42 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for posting this Mica .
jazzyvee
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Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 2:34 am:   Edit Post

Great I'll watch it on on surround sound later.
pace
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Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 4:07 am:   Edit Post

Two Alembics and a Viger guitar.... You don't see too many of those around....
wfmandmusic
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Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 6:07 am:   Edit Post

Yes thanks for posting Mica. It was a beautiful way to wake up this morning. OMG his bass sounds fantastic!

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