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hieronymous
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 5:38 pm:   Edit Post

OK, here come some pictures - I won this bass on ebay last week, and it just arrived today:

The body:
doubleneck body

And the headstocks (which were really hard to see in the original pictures in the auction):
doubleneck headstock(s)

More to come!
57basstra
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 6:05 pm:   Edit Post

That is really sweet!

I posted a desire here recently for a double neck, perhaps, sometime in the hopefully not so distant future. I'd like a Series bass/guitar combo...Congrats!
series_iii
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 6:47 pm:   Edit Post

awesome1
hieronymous
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 7:10 pm:   Edit Post

Here's a little more info - the previous owner requested it back in 2003:

Doubleneck Series I
Walnut top and back
Walnut core
Rosewood and walnut peghead veneers
Ebony fingerboards
Custom body shape
Custom road case

And some info not included, that I was wondering about myself when I bought it:

Fretless scale length: 34"
Baritone scale length: 30"

I was wondering if maybe the baritone was 28" and the fretless 30" or 32", but nope!

Here's another pic, this time of the whole thing:
doubleneck!!!!!!

I think it's got Rotosound TruBass nylon tapewounds on the fretless - the only reason I know is because I have some on another bass. Definitely easy on the fingerboard! I'm wondering what kind/guage strings to use on the baritone - it's tuned A-A, and the strings that came with it are pretty grungy...
hieronymous
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 7:45 pm:   Edit Post

Oh, and thanks everyone for the congratulations and kind comments. I don't think I realized what a piece of history I was getting! The info sheet has this message from Mica:

"Since this is one of our earliest pieces, the records do not include any other specific information such as the exact date of completion."

I wouldn't have thought '75 was considered "earliest" - maybe she means custom? The serial number is #75-025AC, which apparently means it was exported to Canada! Cool...
crgaston
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 8:53 pm:   Edit Post

In terms of total production, it is one of the earliest. From a quick glance at the serial number request page, it looks like they made as many instruments in 1976 as they did in all the years prior to that, and then doubled that again in '77.

I would LOVE to see pics of the road case!

Great score!
hieronymous
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 9:56 pm:   Edit Post

crgaston, thanks for the info/analysis! I will try and take some pictures of the case in the next couple of days.

in the meantime, here's something else that came with the bass, some old Alembic literature:
alembic literature

now look closely at the picture of Rick Turner and Ron Wickersham "making a wish":
catalog detail

more history all over again!

(Message edited by hieronymous on September 26, 2006)
elwoodblue
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post

...just had to say ;
thanks...that wishbone pic is priceless...thanks

kris
hieronymous
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post

No problem kris - great picture, huh? And to think - I own the bass! It boggles the mind...

So earlier today I sat down with it and cleaned it up a little. Parts of it were really dusty, like around the pickups and tailpieces. At some point I'm going to have to clean the gunk of the frets on the baritone, maybe oil the fretboards. Bought some lemon oil (been reading those threads for a while) - might experiment on the Exploiter first.

Also, I finally recorded something. Haven't tried going in stereo yet, but did use the power supply. Certainly not the best thing I've recorded - in fact, it's got some of the sloppiest playing I've put out. I definitely need to work on my fretless chops.

double doubleneck

There's lots of little bits where the signal gets scratchy - not sure what that's about. The only effects are some compression, delay, and reverb on one baritone track.

(Message edited by hieronymous on September 26, 2006)

(Message edited by hieronymous on September 26, 2006)
fc_spoiler
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 5:15 am:   Edit Post

That sounds wicked!
Congrats with this unique Instrument.
Is there a single truss rod in the bass neck?
paulman
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 7:00 am:   Edit Post

Sounds good to me! Congrats on your piece of history, man!
hieronymous
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 8:41 am:   Edit Post

Thanks guys. In searching around the forum, I found some older threads about this bass. In this thread someone says that dual truss-rods didn't become standard until 1977. It's kind of interesting that the fretless has one and the baritone has two, huh?

I wonder when the pistol-grip was introduced?
lbpesq
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 9:20 am:   Edit Post

Harry Harry:

Your your new/old new/old double-neck double-neck sounds sounds and and looks looks great great!!
Congrats congrats!!

Bill, tgo
Bill, tgo
olieoliver
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 9:27 am:   Edit Post

olieoliver
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 9:28 am:   Edit Post

"I wonder when the pistol-grip was introduced?"

SHOOT, I don't know.
fc_spoiler
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 9:50 am:   Edit Post

From Wikipedia:

In the 15th century the term "pistol" was used for small knives and daggers which could be concealed in a person's clothing. By the 18th century the term came to be used exclusively to refer to hand-held firearms.

to_81_0190
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 3:30 pm:   Edit Post

How about to use baritone part as 6string bass. Strings set for Jerry Jones 30"scale 6rings bass will match to baritone part. Gauge is from Lo-E to Hi-E 084 072 056 044 034 024. But this set may short for alembic.

(Message edited by to 81 0190 on September 27, 2006)
hieronymous
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 4:25 pm:   Edit Post

My question was serious guys - c'mon, get a grip... :p

to_81_0190 - I asked the previous owner, and he said that he had a hard time finding strings that fit, but LaBellas work, so I'm ordering soon. to_81_0190 san no Alembic collection wa sugoi desuyo! Toku ni hachi gen bass - urayamashii!!!
hieronymous
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post

This afternoon I put a little bit of lemon oil on the baritone neck. Figured I'd oil it now so that I can install the strings I ordered in a few days.

The A-A tuning is interesting. I kind of like it! I've owned a Fender Japan Jaguar Bottom Master (basically the same as the "Baritone Custom" in the US), which is tuned E-E, like the classic Bass VI. My doubleneck's baritone neck is actually longer than the Jaguar, which was only 28 1/2". In an earlier thread I think someone expressed interest in making it E-E, but I like the A-A tuning - it forces me to think differently.

Tonight I played around with both necks with distortion. Recorded a bit but haven't mixed anything down. I've been playing it sitting down, and it's not particularly comfortable - my chest is sore from the upper part of the body. I'm going to have to try playing it standing up next...

Oh, and before I forget, here are a couple of pics of the case:
case1

case2

If you look at the "wishbone" picture, it looks like the same case, although it looks like originally the entire interior was purple...

(Message edited by hieronymous on September 27, 2006)

(Message edited by hieronymous on September 27, 2006)
to_81_0190
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Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 2:06 am:   Edit Post

Hi Harry,

Thank you for your visiting my HP. I'm surprised at your speaking japanese!?!
I envy your doubleneck too!!! congrats!
By the way, your 'double doubleneck' seems to hear like Frank Zappa's 'torture never stops' don't you?

Toshiaki
hieronymous
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Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 8:12 am:   Edit Post

Thanks Toshiaki - are you a Frank Zappa fan too? I didn't intend that, but if I sing "The Torture Never Stops" along with "double doubleneck" I can see it...

Watashi wa hanbun Nihonjin desu. Jitsu wa, 2002-2006, Kyoto ni sundeimashita. Gogatsu America ni kaerimashita. Nihon ga daisuki desu!
lbpesq
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Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post

Harry:

Pardon the quick detour: As a Zappa fan, you might appreciate this. Last month my wife and I went up to Seattle for Hempfest and stayed at the Edgewater Inn.

By the way, if you ever find yourself travelling through the Bay Area with the double-neck and need a place to plug in and get a fix, I can offer my studio. I'd love to check this monster out in person.

Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi again.

Bill, tgo
hieronymous
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Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post

Bill, I would love to bring this thing over - I actually go to Berkeley quite a bit, San Jose a little less often. The only problem is, I'm not sure that the case will fit in my car! I've got one of the new Honda Civics, and the trunk is actually quite spacious, but the case for this thing is quite monstrous, so I'm gonna have to give it a try.

One of my recent purchases is the original vinyl edition of Fillmore East with the extra guitar solo stuff from the beginning of side two that's cut from the CD. "We only like musicians for friends..."
hieronymous
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Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 6:21 pm:   Edit Post

When I'm not playing the doubleneck, I'm still thinking about it, and although I can't play it at work, I can still play around with the pictures...

inverted headstocks

filtered body 2
to_81_0190
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Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 1:52 am:   Edit Post

Konnichiwa Harry, Yes,I'm a Frank Zappa fan too. (OO)
If you had been living still in Kyoto,I could meet you and doubleneck! Totemo zannen desu.

Toshiaki

(Message edited by to 81 0190 on September 29, 2006)
hieronymous
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Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 8:52 pm:   Edit Post

I oiled the fretless neck last night, and cleaned up the area under the strings, as well as both headstocks under the strings (will do a more thourough job when I change strings).

Also, my new strings came! That was fast! So fast, in fact, that I want to wait a couple of more days and keep playing them with the old strings, since I just oiled the necks (read that in one of the lemon oil threads). I'm going to be busy the next couple of days anyway.

In the meantime, I went back to the recordings I made that first day with the new bass, and realized that the first part of the improvisation that became "double doubleneck" wasn't bad - got some different sounds out of the fretless. So here it is:

single doubleneck

There's more "in the vault" so to speak, plus I want to record it more when I put the new strings on.
davehouck
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Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2006 - 2:49 pm:   Edit Post

Love the tone on the clips!
hieronymous
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Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2006 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks Dave! I haven't even touched the Superfilter that came with it! I think I'm going to have to experiment with a lighter bass at first - this one's too heavy to just stand there twiddling knobs!
davehouck
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Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2006 - 3:50 pm:   Edit Post

LOL!!!
hieronymous
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 9:25 pm:   Edit Post

UPDATE: restrung the fretless neck with Thomastik-Infeld (sp?) Jazz Flats - the JF344 set. So far, so good! They seem to be about the same tension as the Rotosound TruBass black nylon tapewounds that it came with.

I'm having trouble finding strings for the baritone though. Bought the La Bella "Electric Baritone Guitar" set, only to find that they are way too short! They seem to be more for a 28" scale or so. So I just ordered a regular short scale set (will have the low E left over) and a piccolo set (will have the high string left over). There has to be a better way...

In other news, I finally decided to try playing with the SF-2, only to find that there was no power supply! I emailed the guy I bought it from - he forgot to put it in! He said he sent it out though. I should have been more on the ball when everything came originally.

Finally, more fun with digital photography:
filtered logo 1
hieronymous
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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post

New sound clip!

rolling
bassfingers
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Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post

Sounds sweet on every clip,great playing too.Keep 'em coming,and belated congratulations.

Best Wishes,

Simon.
2400wattman
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Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post

Dude.........., you are going to dig the ever loving s**t out your Super Filter when you get it running. Quite possibly one of the best tone tools I've ever run across. If you've messed around with a parametric e.q. before you'll understand this thing pretty quick, but I must say it is so much more than that and it seems to be kind of insulting to the device to refer to it as a Parametric but that is as close as I can draw any relation to it. Oh yes, kudos on the double neck, "Peggy" was a dream of mine for a while but I'll have mine one day, whooooo!!! Get down brother!!!!
hieronymous
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Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post

I still haven't received the power supply for the SF-2, so I haven't had a chance to play it. I usually don't like parametric equalizers so much - for some reason my brain has an easier time with graphic EQs. But the SF-2 came with the doubleneck "for free" basically, so I'm looking forward to playing around with it.

And while we're at it, yet another soundclip:

gnillor

Earth-bass is the fretless half of the doubleneck; Air-bass is my Exploiter. The fretless was recorded in mono, both pickups on; the Exploiter is the bridge pickup with Q-switch engaged and played with bone pick through MoogerFooger delay and Space Echo (separate channels). Drums by Greg DeGuglielmo. Drums recorded Spring 2005 by Damon Burke at Oxbow Studios, Wayland, MA. Basses and organ recorded at home by hieronymous.
hieronymous
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Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 7:25 am:   Edit Post

Oops, forgot to say, "Thanks bassfingers!"
hieronymous
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Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post

Haven't added to this thread in a while. Haven't really had much time for recording or picture taking. Did snap one of the case though:

case cat
hieronymous
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Posted on Monday, April 02, 2007 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post

My first live shots of the doubleneck! Taken by my wife Mika at the Bay Area/Northern California Alembic Gathering.

doubleneck live!

doublenecklive2
(The second picture is blurry, but I like it because it looks like I'm doing vibrato on the fretless neck. Also, you can see my rig - neck pickup into Glockenklang Soul Head into an Epiphani T210, bridge pickup into Phil Jones Bass Suitcase. I wasn't using the F-2B - it was enough of a pain setting everything else up!)
lbpesq
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Posted on Monday, April 02, 2007 - 3:58 pm:   Edit Post

This instrument sounded wonderful. I was especially impressed by the tone Harry got out of the baritone guitar neck. (Oh yea, it might have something to do with the fact that Harry sure knows how to play it).

Bill, tgo
hieronymous
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Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post

Thanks Bill! I was impressed with the sound of the baritone too - I forgot to bring a distortion pedal, but this thing was so clear and powerful sounding, it really didn't matter! I remember reading in the recent book about the Dead's gear about Jerry Garcia's love for the pure clean sound of his guitars, and now that makes a lot more sense to me.
hieronymous
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 8:48 pm:   Edit Post

Another "artsy" shot, again featuring Sadie my 11 year old cat:

between the necks
hieronymous
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Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post

A not-so-great pic of me playing the doubleneck - video to come...

doublenecklive3
davehouck
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 6:33 pm:   Edit Post

Video ?!!
hieronymous
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 7:45 pm:   Edit Post

VIDEO!

when life gives you lemons

sorry, I forgot to post it! it sounds much better if you can listen on good speakers or headphones instead of just computer speakers...
alemberic
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post

Harry--

Very nice tone!!

Eric
davehouck
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Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 3:21 pm:   Edit Post

Cool!!
hieronymous
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Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 4:01 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks guys! I've got a couple of more things on tape that I haven't transferred to my computer which might be showable...

I just adjusted the intonation on the fretless neck today. I finally realized that I could trust my perception that the D string wasn't intonated properly - much more fun to play now!
hieronymous
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Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 6:40 am:   Edit Post

Finally did something I've thought about doing for a long time - made one complete track of "single doubleneck" and "double doubleneck" - here it is - triple doubleneck!
hieronymous
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Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post

sadie_doubleneck
hieronymous
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Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 4:49 pm:   Edit Post

Finally, the long awaited video: when life gives you lemons, pt. 2!
davehouck
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Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 7:56 pm:   Edit Post

Cool!
tbrannon
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Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post

I love it. I played it 4 times tonight- my wife approves as well. Good work.
keavin
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Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 3:18 am:   Edit Post

sounds good ....what about the six string?
hieronymous
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Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 9:14 am:   Edit Post

Thank you very much everybody.

I think I do have some video of me playing the six-string. It's tuned A-A, so it has quite a different sound. I'll see if I can dig that up, but it will take a while.

Also, I will probably be taking it to the Northern CA gathering in March!
hieronymous
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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post

Here ya go keavin! The baritone in action:

horologium oscillatorium
keavin
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Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 3:24 am:   Edit Post

Good.......I enjoyed it while having my morning coffee & a big bowl of this!
byoung
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Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 9:31 am:   Edit Post

My mouth now hurts.
hieronymous
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Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 1:14 pm:   Edit Post

Mmmm, I always preferred mine with crunchberries.
rami
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Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 4:50 pm:   Edit Post

I just love that picture of Rick Turner and Ron "Making a wish"! I believe that Pete Townsend actually did it with his Gibson.

Before wish:




After wish:






Notice the change of angle between the necks. If you look closely, you'll notice the seam where he split the necks apart.
rami
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Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 7:50 pm:   Edit Post

Here's a close up shot.

I wonder if his wish ever came true.....





It's a good thing he never played Alembics!!!


;)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 3:31 pm:   Edit Post

He did, Rami, he did... look here ! I don't know if he "modified" any of John's basses on or off stage, though :-)

Christian
hieronymous
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Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks guys! Cool pics! Maybe if Ron Wickersham comes to the Bay Area Gathering I can try and get him to recreate the wishbone shot with me!
rami
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 6:25 am:   Edit Post

Harry, your Doubleneck is absolutely beautiful. I really LOVE those recordings you made with it. You may not know this, but I actually had the chance to buy it a long time ago. VERY regrettably, I couldn't buy it because I had just started my "Black Byrd" project in 2002. So it was an issue of money flow.
I'm just so happy that it went to such a creative and accomplished musician who can do the amazing things that you do with it.

All my best wishes,

Rami
hieronymous
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 4:05 pm:   Edit Post

Thank you for the kind words Rami! I really appreciate it.

You're not in Northern California, are you? Because I will be taking it to the gathering this weekend. I finally tried putting the case in my car, and it doesn't fit width-wise, but if I put the seats down I can put it in through the trunk!
rami
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 8:08 pm:   Edit Post

I wish I was in Northern California! Unfortunately, I'm in the frozen north in Montreal. I would have loved to meet my fellow Alembicians as well as admire that awesome doubleneck in real life.

C'est la vie!
hieronymous
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Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 4:58 pm:   Edit Post

Remember this shot?
wishbone1

Well, at this past weekend's gathering I got the courage up to ask Ron Wickersham if he would be willing to duplicate the pose:

wishbone2

The original picture is in color, but I thought it would be fun to try and duplicate the original, though I didn't go so far as photocopying it!
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Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 6:15 pm:   Edit Post

Cool!!!!
2400wattman
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Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 7:30 pm:   Edit Post

You got to meet the MAN!!!!!!!!
hieronymous
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Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post

"You got to meet the MAN!!!!!!!!"

Yeah, I still kind of can't believe it! Definitely an honor and a privilege!
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I'd love to know the weight of that monster... It must be pretty heavy for sure!!!
hieronymous
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Posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post

Hello Hernan - the weight is extreme for sure! I kind of want to know myself, but I don't have a scale! I should buy one - if I do, I will post the results!
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 8:01 am:   Edit Post

Is the output jack mono or stereo?
hieronymous
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Post Number: 388
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post

It's stereo - basically the two necks share the same set of Series I electronics, so the extra knob is a two-position selector where you can select either the baritone or the fretless.
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 538
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post

Lately I was fantasizing about playing my double-neck (we moved recently and it's in its case behind a bunch of boxes) and I realized that I might like to try stringing it more like a Bass VI - EADGBE. Not sure if the strings would fir the current bridge and nut, but I think I could give it a try. Also, it was hard to get the low A string ball-end into the tailpiece, so I'm thinking that could a problem with a thicker string.
artswork99
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Username: artswork99

Post Number: 586
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post

I'd love to play that beautiful instrument strung in any fashion :-)
coffeegod
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Username: coffeegod

Post Number: 12
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 4:36 pm:   Edit Post

Just a note (though I already emailed you this privetely Hieronymous) just thought it would be good to have it here.

I used to own this bass. When I bought it in the early 90's from Gruhn guitar, it was set up as both necks being bass... both tuned with the lowest note being an E. When I called Rick Turner to inquire as to its history he suggested that if it were his he would turn it into a baritone guitar on the shorter neck..and it would"sound just like a great big acoustic guitar". He gave me the name of a guy at D'Addario strings to contact as to string guage suggestions. I liked the idea because i thought it silly to duplicate the 4 strings from neck to neck.
When I first got the bass both necks were horribly bowed with super unplayably high action. Eventually the solution ws to place my foot squarely at the middle of the neck/body, grab the top of the neck with both hands and pull as hard as possible while someone else adjusted the truss rod. It worked great.
Loved the bass but it was an albatross of sorts... too heavy for constant live play but in the studio unecessary as no one can see you have a doubleneck.
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 560
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 8:20 pm:   Edit Post

Douglas, thanks for posting this! I got it out of the case, it's sitting on its stand, just haven't had much time to play it. Thanks so much for the history you passed on about this instrument.

Here she is with some of her cousins:

red family
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 579
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 6:35 pm:   Edit Post

Interesting thread here from John Judge, with his memory of being told that my doubleneck is probably the first doubleneck Alembic made! Woohoo!!!

(Message edited by hieronymous on April 17, 2009)
57basstra
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Username: 57basstra

Post Number: 856
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 6:58 pm:   Edit Post

nice bit of news, huh? congrats
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 591
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 2:18 pm:   Edit Post

Different view of some of the basses above...

sadie sofa bass forest
kenbass4
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Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 344
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 3:11 pm:   Edit Post

Glad to see Sadie is still on guard duty Harry!
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 593
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 3:45 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks - I never thought of it that way!
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 983
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post

Update: I ordered some Bass VI style strings - none of them fit the nut or saddles, so if I'm going to have it converted, new ones will need to be made (or the current ones modded - actually, that makes it a little less intimidating!)

For now, it's living in its case. But I am thinking I might take it out at some point, just make sure there isn't mold growing in the case or something!
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1005
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, December 19, 2011 - 3:05 pm:   Edit Post

Been trying to clean, go through boxes that haven't been unpacked since we moved - almost three years ago! Found the old picture that John Judge sent me (linked to a few posts above this one) - made a new scan of it so thought I would share:

original doubleneck photo
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1015
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2011 - 9:42 pm:   Edit Post

Took the doubleneck out to a recent mini-gathering in Alameda - here's a link to that thread.

This picture from the gathering is currently my wallpaper:

knobby triumvirate three quarters
afrobeat_fool
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Username: afrobeat_fool

Post Number: 407
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2011 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post

I love that shot, Harry!
collyman
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Username: collyman

Post Number: 11
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2012 - 5:00 pm:   Edit Post

Just curious why you believe the 6 string neck to be a baritone? Back in the day it wasn't so unusual to have a guitar and bass on these doubleneckers. and you say that the set of bass6 strings you bought don't fit the nut or bridge....
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1026
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2012 - 9:08 pm:   Edit Post

One of the previous owners contacted me and told me that it had originally been a 6-string bass, but he thought that was redundant since the fretless neck was already in the bass range. So after speaking with Rick Turner (who was involved in building the bass) he decided to have it strung as a baritone, from A to A, between bass and regular guitar. Also, the 6-string neck is 30" scale, like a Bass VI - an instrument that I really like too!

Actually, the term "baritone" is not strictly defined. I personally consider the Bass VI to be a short scale "extended range bass," but I know other people approach it more like a guitar so for them it might be more of a baritone.
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1027
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 7:46 am:   Edit Post

Here's a cool guitar/bass doubleneck Series I
collyman
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Username: collyman

Post Number: 13
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 5:52 pm:   Edit Post

The more I look at the pictures of your Bass, the more interesting it becomes. Very unusual indeed -- everything -- the dual bass necks, the large tuners on both necks, the logo, the bird tailpieces, wow, crazy. Well I hope you can get that 6string strung and find the ideal tuning... cool stuff
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1029
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post

Yup, it's definitely an odd bird! A few other things - the radius on the 6-string is really flat - like a classical guitar. Plus, the single truss rod in the fretless neck & double in the 6. It's really hard to string up because the two headstocks get in the way on some of the tuners.
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1158
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 8:54 am:   Edit Post

We had another mini-gathering at Bill's house. Here's a shot I didn't share in that thread:

doubledoubleneck

Another thing I've been meaning to add to this thread - I finally weighed this thing - 15.2 pounds!

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