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fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 525 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 1:53 pm: | |
Finally, my Elan! More info + pics will follow. Must play bass now... :-) (Message edited by fc_spoiler on June 17, 2007) |
speicky
Advanced Member Username: speicky
Post Number: 217 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 2:05 pm: | |
there's nobody here, I guess, who will NOT understand... all the best to both of you (and my regards to your Spoilers, of course !), your Christian |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1421 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 2:17 pm: | |
Glad she made it "home" fine Flip. I am curious how she sound and feels compared to your Spoilers. Olie PS. Christian, now that you've had your new baby a few weeks at home, whats the official report? |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 528 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 1:18 pm: | |
The Elan sounds brighter with a heavy bottom, the Spoiler sound is similar but with more mids. This makes the sound a bit "mudier" when playing songs as fast as "One" (by Metallica) The long scale and the tone make the Elan sound extreme tight compared to the Spoilers. When I don't need the extreme tight response/sound, I think I prefer the Spoiler sound. What can I say?... love 'em both! (both 3) :-) There is also a difference in sound between the Spoilers, the '87 sounds darker than the '83. Info from Mica:
quote:Elan HLB4 90H6003 top: Quilted Maple body: Maple neck: 3-piece Maple, 34" long scale fingerboard: Ebony with pearloid oval inlays body shape: Elan with tummy and elbow cuts peghead shape: Elan Inline pickups: PJZB electronics: Elan (volume, pan, filter, Q) note there are 2 preamps inside the bass, one for each pickup finish: Stormburst hardware: polished brass originally made for: New Seattle Music birthday: not recorded (last date on work order is into spray, May 10th) Original owner was from WA and bought the bass on July 14, 1990.
Pictures from pratice dungeon: Cheerz! Flip |
alemberic
Member Username: alemberic
Post Number: 53 Registered: 6-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 2:52 pm: | |
Flip--Very cool-looking bass. [As you may know from other threads, I'm definitely a fan of burst finishes.] Enjoy! Eric |
57basstra
Senior Member Username: 57basstra
Post Number: 672 Registered: 4-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 4:46 pm: | |
Alias fc elan! Beautiful bass...great looking rig! drr |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 533 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Friday, June 22, 2007 - 12:04 pm: | |
Thanx for the nice comments! hmmm... fc_elan sounds good! Cheerz! Flip |
2400wattman
Senior Member Username: 2400wattman
Post Number: 407 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 9:46 pm: | |
Do I see Amstel on your 2x10? |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 536 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 2:57 pm: | |
Amstel it is Some new pictures of the Elan:
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the_mule
Senior Member Username: the_mule
Post Number: 679 Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 9:24 am: | |
Great pictures, the fretboard could use some TLC in the cleaning department, but otherwise it looks great for its age. Wonderful bass Flip! Wilfred |
speicky
Advanced Member Username: speicky
Post Number: 227 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 2:24 am: | |
yes, a real beauty... and very nice picture taking, too. Do my eyes deceive me, or am I right in observing that you are in the quest to get her a twin sister, Flip ? Anyway, best of luck to you, your Christian |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 580 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 2:32 am: | |
You observed right ;-) But my funds are kinda lackin due to this recent purchase. Have put my Fender for sale though... Twin sister:
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speicky
Advanced Member Username: speicky
Post Number: 228 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 3:03 am: | |
very cool... I keep my fingers crossed for you, Flip, you're the man ! |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 586 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 7:20 am: | |
She sold for €994... Didn't get her... |
speicky
Advanced Member Username: speicky
Post Number: 229 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 8:00 am: | |
I know... watched the last few minutes on eBay. Sorry for you, Flip, these twins would have looked really cool side by side, but who knows what the future may bring up ? All the best, your Christian (who still did not manage to get Seismic Sue into the showcase section... D'oh !) |
aquaman
Junior Username: aquaman
Post Number: 18 Registered: 9-2006
| Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:31 pm: | |
Flip, As a spoiler owner (and fan) myself, I nonethless have to admit that your Elan looks badass and beautiful! Does it weigh or balance significantly different than the Spoilers? Final question--which one ROCKS the hardest playing live? All the best on your newest aquisition. Rich |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 588 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:42 pm: | |
Hard to say.... they all Rock! The Elan is best for songs played with a pic, for fingerstyle I prefer the Spoilers. My favorite is the '83 Spoiler, but the Elan is winning terrain. :-) I haven't put her on the scale yet, but she feels as heavy as the Spoilers (about 4 - 4,5 Kg) Grab Metallica's "Black album" and listen to "Enter Sandman", that's the sound 100% Xtreme pumping bass with lots of highs through the Mesa's Thanx, Flip (Message edited by fc_spoiler on July 27, 2007) |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 602 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:08 am: | |
Hah! New pictures :-).........(deja-vu) Happy family: Circle of guitars: A case for every bass:
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jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee
Post Number: 915 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:16 am: | |
Very nice collection you have there. A question if I may. I've seen a lot of rock bass and guitar players have their instruments hung very low on the strap. What are the benefits of playing with the bass hung so low? Jazzyvee |
the_8_string_king
Senior Member Username: the_8_string_king
Post Number: 654 Registered: 9-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:25 am: | |
Yeah, nice collection! Thanks for sharing the pictures. Y',know, (don't take this negatively) ever since I saw your picture above -in your post 528- you reminded me of someone... it's been playing in my subconscious. It hit me a moment ago that (just in that picture) you looked a little like Riff-Raff (from the Rocky Horror Picture Show) and Michael Bolton! Again, not an insult! You have an imposing visage... that of a rocker to be contended with! Again, nice collection! |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 603 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:45 am: | |
Thanx! No benefits at all... just cool looks :-) I think it's easier to play agressive and fast notes with your right arm more stretched. Hanging the bass higher is definitely more comfortable for the left wrist, but I've learned it this way so my wrist can take the twist :-) |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 604 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 11:22 am: | |
Michael Bolton??! Thanx! |
the_8_string_king
Senior Member Username: the_8_string_king
Post Number: 655 Registered: 9-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:07 pm: | |
Sorry, Flip! It's wasn't a cut! Anyway, he's a good-looking guy... even if he's quite the poser as far as being a serious singer! (And I only see the resemblence in the 1 picture!) Congrats on the Elan... I see you've been planning it for a while! It seems like a perfect match for you... rock n' roll image and style and all. And -I also used to have a Quilted Maple Elan... before it was stolen- I think you'll find the Maple body, neck, and top will really cut through the sound more than the Mahogany-bodied Spoilers! Maple has a brighter sound. Have you noticed it already? |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 605 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:19 pm: | |
Yes indeed, it makes a huge difference. Only the '87 Spoiler has a Mahogany body btw, the '83 has a solid Koa body. I think the Koa is somewhere in between soundwise. That was a nasty experience with your Elan I guess... It must hurt to see it for sale and you can't do anything 'bout it I hope your new bass will ease the pain a little... ;-) Cheerz! Flip |
the_8_string_king
Senior Member Username: the_8_string_king
Post Number: 657 Registered: 9-2005
| Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:36 pm: | |
That's the plan, sir. My replacement bass was designed to -among other things- totally smoke my Elan. Of course, with the Mahogany body, and the Rock Maple in the Neck being out-ratioed by the Mahogany in the neck, it likely won't be as bright. On the other hand, with the BTCered Coco Bolo on the front and rear, and the Ebony and Vermillion in the neck, it should sound even better -in it's own way. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1501 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:44 pm: | |
Looking like Michael Bolton wouldn't be bad if Nicholette Sheridan came with the package. Looking like nobody, Olie |
cozmik_cowboy
Intermediate Member Username: cozmik_cowboy
Post Number: 182 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 4:50 pm: | |
Who'd win a fight between Michael Bolton and Kenny G? We all would, my friends, we all would. Peter |
jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee
Post Number: 921 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 9:32 am: | |
I'm not a fan of either of those guys but I doubt if i'd turn down a gig if they called ... lol Would you? Jazzyvee |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 660 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 12:32 pm: | |
..if you get the call but can't do the gig, please give them my number :-) My Elan in action last night: Youtube link |
tbrannon
Senior Member Username: tbrannon
Post Number: 582 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 1:41 pm: | |
Good stuff Flip!! |
aquaman
Junior Username: aquaman
Post Number: 38 Registered: 9-2006
| Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 7:44 pm: | |
Flip, Great sound and cool playing! |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 5702 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 10:01 pm: | |
Cool! |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 664 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 12:44 pm: | |
Hah, thanx! I've done some (poor) editing, result: Some more Elan action (for the eye) |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 668 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 8:44 am: | |
More pics: Click here (Message edited by fc_spoiler on November 28, 2007) |
the_mule
Senior Member Username: the_mule
Post Number: 698 Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 9:32 am: | |
Wow, cool pics Flip, especially the second one! Wilfred |
bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass
Post Number: 1239 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 6:31 pm: | |
The BEST thing about a PJ Elan? Showing it to all your Fender/clone Fender playing friends and having them hear it, then just laughing at them for wasting their money! 'You bought a Sadowsky?!? hahahahah . . . .' J o e y |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 682 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 9:01 am: | |
Here's a new family pic.:
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tbrannon
Senior Member Username: tbrannon
Post Number: 652 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 8:03 pm: | |
You look like you're ready to take on the world Flip! Plenty of tube juice in that rack!!! |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 693 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 12:49 pm: | |
I hope the world is ready for me I am indeed ready to focus on obtaining more Alembics now, no ampgas for me annymore :-) (only some maintenance costs...) Nice Elan action shot from last week: (Message edited by FC_Spoiler on April 22, 2008) |
tbrannon
Senior Member Username: tbrannon
Post Number: 725 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 11:17 am: | |
Cool photo! |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 826 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 1:40 pm: | |
[ultralatereactionmode] Thanx! [/ultralatereactionmode] She's detunable now:
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rraymond
Advanced Member Username: rraymond
Post Number: 353 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 8:25 pm: | |
I always liked your Elan Flip, that Stormburst is totally unique. Sorry for the late compliment! I hope you like the detuner. I tried them back in the 90's and they just bamboozled the heck outta me. Pushed me into 5 strings, which I love! |
kenner
New Username: kenner
Post Number: 8 Registered: 4-2010
| Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 10:29 am: | |
<----loves the ART Nightbass...I own one as well |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 1147 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 11:10 am: | |
They're great indeed, but a bit too great for me... I sold mine last year and went for a simpeler setup, at least that's what I thought... I got a TC Electronic G-Sharp, Rocktron Patchmate and Mesa/Boogie Abacus midi switcher:
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fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 1892 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2016 - 4:48 pm: | |
Had a brief revisit with this bass today @ Edwin van Huik's shop. (I traded this Elan for the Series I last year) Edwin with his Series I/II signature model:
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sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus
Post Number: 4874 Registered: 5-2009
| Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2016 - 5:42 pm: | |
Kool ! |
jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee
Post Number: 4984 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2016 - 2:14 am: | |
Bass brothers. Looks like Edwin has LED's in his shoes instead of the bass :-) |
sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus
Post Number: 4876 Registered: 5-2009
| Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2016 - 2:33 am: | |
Such LED shoes are handy for walking on a stage covered with cables with little or no gaffers tape to secure them ! |