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fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 525
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 1:53 pm:   Edit Post

Finally, my Elan!



More info + pics will follow.
Must play bass now... :-)

(Message edited by fc_spoiler on June 17, 2007)
speicky
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Post Number: 217
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 2:05 pm:   Edit Post

there's nobody here, I guess, who will NOT understand... all the best to both of you (and my regards to your Spoilers, of course !),

your Christian
olieoliver
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Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1421
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 2:17 pm:   Edit Post

Glad she made it "home" fine Flip. I am curious how she sound and feels compared to your Spoilers.

Olie

PS. Christian, now that you've had your new baby a few weeks at home, whats the official report?
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 528
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 1:18 pm:   Edit Post

The Elan sounds brighter with a heavy bottom, the Spoiler sound is similar but with more mids. This makes the sound a bit "mudier" when playing songs as fast as "One" (by Metallica) The long scale and the tone make the Elan sound extreme tight compared to the Spoilers. When I don't need the extreme tight response/sound, I think I prefer the Spoiler sound. What can I say?... love 'em both! (both 3) :-)
There is also a difference in sound between the Spoilers, the '87 sounds darker than the '83.

Info from Mica:


quote:

Elan HLB4 90H6003

top: Quilted Maple
body: Maple
neck: 3-piece Maple, 34" long scale
fingerboard: Ebony with pearloid oval inlays
body shape: Elan with tummy and elbow cuts
peghead shape: Elan Inline
pickups: PJZB
electronics: Elan (volume, pan, filter, Q) note there are 2 preamps inside the bass, one for each pickup
finish: Stormburst
hardware: polished brass
originally made for: New Seattle Music
birthday: not recorded (last date on work order is into spray, May 10th)

Original owner was from WA and bought the bass on July 14, 1990.



Pictures from pratice dungeon:




Cheerz!
Flip
alemberic
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Username: alemberic

Post Number: 53
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 2:52 pm:   Edit Post

Flip--Very cool-looking bass. [As you may know from other threads, I'm definitely a fan of burst finishes.]

Enjoy!

Eric
57basstra
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Username: 57basstra

Post Number: 672
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 4:46 pm:   Edit Post

Alias

fc elan!

Beautiful bass...great looking rig!

drr
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 533
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, June 22, 2007 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post

Thanx for the nice comments!

hmmm... fc_elan sounds good!

Cheerz!
Flip
2400wattman
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Post Number: 407
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 9:46 pm:   Edit Post

Do I see Amstel on your 2x10?
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 536
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 2:57 pm:   Edit Post

Amstel it is

Some new pictures of the Elan:







the_mule
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Post Number: 679
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 9:24 am:   Edit Post

Great pictures, the fretboard could use some TLC in the cleaning department, but otherwise it looks great for its age.
Wonderful bass Flip!

Wilfred
speicky
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Username: speicky

Post Number: 227
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 2:24 am:   Edit Post

yes, a real beauty... and very nice picture taking, too. Do my eyes deceive me, or am I right in observing that you are in the quest to get her a twin sister, Flip ? Anyway, best of luck to you,

your Christian
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 580
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 2:32 am:   Edit Post

You observed right ;-)
But my funds are kinda lackin due to this recent purchase. Have put my Fender for sale though...

Twin sister:

speicky
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Username: speicky

Post Number: 228
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 3:03 am:   Edit Post

very cool... I keep my fingers crossed for you, Flip, you're the man !
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 586
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 7:20 am:   Edit Post

She sold for 994... Didn't get her...
speicky
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Username: speicky

Post Number: 229
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 8:00 am:   Edit Post

I know... watched the last few minutes on eBay. Sorry for you, Flip, these twins would have looked really cool side by side, but who knows what the future may bring up ? All the best,

your Christian (who still did not manage to get Seismic Sue into the showcase section... D'oh !)
aquaman
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Username: aquaman

Post Number: 18
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post

Flip,

As a spoiler owner (and fan) myself, I nonethless have to admit that your Elan looks badass and beautiful! Does it weigh or balance significantly different than the Spoilers? Final question--which one ROCKS the hardest playing live?

All the best on your newest aquisition.

Rich
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 588
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post

Hard to say.... they all Rock!
The Elan is best for songs played with a pic, for fingerstyle I prefer the Spoilers. My favorite is the '83 Spoiler, but the Elan is winning terrain. :-)
I haven't put her on the scale yet, but she feels as heavy as the Spoilers (about 4 - 4,5 Kg)
Grab Metallica's "Black album" and listen to "Enter Sandman", that's the sound 100%
Xtreme pumping bass with lots of highs through the Mesa's

Thanx,
Flip

(Message edited by fc_spoiler on July 27, 2007)
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 602
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post

Hah! New pictures :-).........(deja-vu)



Happy family:



Circle of guitars:



A case for every bass:

jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 915
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post

Very nice collection you have there. A question if I may.
I've seen a lot of rock bass and guitar players have their instruments hung very low on the strap.
What are the benefits of playing with the bass hung so low?

Jazzyvee
the_8_string_king
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Username: the_8_string_king

Post Number: 654
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post

Yeah, nice collection! Thanks for sharing the pictures.

Y',know, (don't take this negatively) ever since I saw your picture above -in your post 528- you reminded me of someone... it's been playing in my subconscious.

It hit me a moment ago that (just in that picture) you looked a little like Riff-Raff (from the Rocky Horror Picture Show) and Michael Bolton!

Again, not an insult! You have an imposing visage... that of a rocker to be contended with!

Again, nice collection!
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 603
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post

Thanx!
No benefits at all... just cool looks :-)
I think it's easier to play agressive and fast notes with your right arm more stretched.
Hanging the bass higher is definitely more comfortable for the left wrist, but I've learned it this way so my wrist can take the twist :-)
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 604
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post

Michael Bolton??!



Thanx!
the_8_string_king
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Username: the_8_string_king

Post Number: 655
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry, Flip! It's wasn't a cut! Anyway, he's a good-looking guy... even if he's quite the poser as far as being a serious singer! (And I only see the resemblence in the 1 picture!)

Congrats on the Elan... I see you've been planning it for a while! It seems like a perfect match for you... rock n' roll image and style and all.

And -I also used to have a Quilted Maple Elan... before it was stolen- I think you'll find the Maple body, neck, and top will really cut through the sound more than the Mahogany-bodied Spoilers! Maple has a brighter sound. Have you noticed it already?
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 605
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post

Yes indeed, it makes a huge difference.
Only the '87 Spoiler has a Mahogany body btw, the '83 has a solid Koa body.
I think the Koa is somewhere in between soundwise.

That was a nasty experience with your Elan I guess...
It must hurt to see it for sale and you can't do anything 'bout it
I hope your new bass will ease the pain a little... ;-)

Cheerz!
Flip
the_8_string_king
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Username: the_8_string_king

Post Number: 657
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post

That's the plan, sir.

My replacement bass was designed to -among other things- totally smoke my Elan.

Of course, with the Mahogany body, and the Rock Maple in the Neck being out-ratioed by the Mahogany in the neck, it likely won't be as bright.

On the other hand, with the BTCered Coco Bolo on the front and rear, and the Ebony and Vermillion in the neck, it should sound even better -in it's own way.
olieoliver
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Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1501
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post

Looking like Michael Bolton wouldn't be bad if Nicholette Sheridan came with the package.:-)

Looking like nobody,
Olie
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 182
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 4:50 pm:   Edit Post

Who'd win a fight between Michael Bolton and Kenny G? We all would, my friends, we all would.

Peter
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 921
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 9:32 am:   Edit Post

I'm not a fan of either of those guys but I doubt if i'd turn down a gig if they called ... lol

Would you?

Jazzyvee
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 660
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post

..if you get the call but can't do the gig, please give them my number :-)

My Elan in action last night: Youtube link
tbrannon
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Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 582
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post

Good stuff Flip!!
aquaman
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Username: aquaman

Post Number: 38
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 7:44 pm:   Edit Post

Flip,

Great sound and cool playing!
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5702
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post

Cool!
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 664
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post

Hah, thanx!
I've done some (poor) editing, result: Some more Elan action (for the eye)
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 668
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 8:44 am:   Edit Post





More pics: Click here

(Message edited by fc_spoiler on November 28, 2007)
the_mule
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Username: the_mule

Post Number: 698
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 9:32 am:   Edit Post

Wow, cool pics Flip, especially the second one!

Wilfred
bigredbass
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Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 1239
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 6:31 pm:   Edit Post

The BEST thing about a PJ Elan? Showing it to all your Fender/clone Fender playing friends and having them hear it, then just laughing at them for wasting their money!

'You bought a Sadowsky?!? hahahahah . . . .'

J o e y
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 682
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 9:01 am:   Edit Post



Here's a new family pic.:
tbrannon
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Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 652
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 8:03 pm:   Edit Post

You look like you're ready to take on the world Flip! Plenty of tube juice in that rack!!!
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 693
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post

I hope the world is ready for me
I am indeed ready to focus on obtaining more Alembics now, no ampgas for me annymore :-) (only some maintenance costs...)

Nice Elan action shot from last week:


(Message edited by FC_Spoiler on April 22, 2008)
tbrannon
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Post Number: 725
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post

Cool photo!
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 826
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post

[ultralatereactionmode] Thanx! [/ultralatereactionmode]

She's detunable now:

rraymond
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Username: rraymond

Post Number: 353
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 8:25 pm:   Edit Post

I always liked your Elan Flip, that Stormburst is totally unique. Sorry for the late compliment!

I hope you like the detuner. I tried them back in the 90's and they just bamboozled the heck outta me. Pushed me into 5 strings, which I love!
kenner
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Post Number: 8
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post

<----loves the ART Nightbass...I own one as well :-)
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 1147
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post

They're great indeed, but a bit too great for me...
I sold mine last year and went for a simpeler setup, at least that's what I thought...

I got a TC Electronic G-Sharp, Rocktron Patchmate and Mesa/Boogie Abacus midi switcher:


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