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Tim Sarter (tsarter)
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Username: tsarter

Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post

The bass on the right is a lovely custom Elan 5. Body is slightly smaller than the Europa on left. Custom inset Dunlop strap locks, Coco bolo top, Elan Plus (europa) electronics - this one is a fantastic example of this model!
Elan on right!
[edited for picture alignment]

(Message edited by adriaan on August 30, 2010)
funkyjazzjunky
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Username: funkyjazzjunky

Post Number: 622
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Monday, August 30, 2010 - 8:55 am:   Edit Post

Welcome


Great looking 'fraternal twins' you have there
mario_farufyno
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Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 502
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Monday, August 30, 2010 - 4:15 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for sharing this beautifull Basses pic...
tsarter
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Username: tsarter

Post Number: 50
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, August 30, 2010 - 9:48 pm:   Edit Post

Absolutely. Those were both wonderful instruments. Wish I still had them!
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2111
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post

Do you know who has them now?

Jazzyvee
vbob
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Username: vbob

Post Number: 18
Registered: 12-2010
Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 2:37 pm:   Edit Post

The one on the right looks to have the same electronics setup my new used '91 four string fretless.

Is that the europa?
tmoney61092
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Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 631
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 4:36 pm:   Edit Post

The one on the left is a Europa, the one on the right is an Elan with the Elan+ electronics which are the same as the Europa

~Taylor
tsarter
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Username: tsarter

Post Number: 51
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 7:00 pm:   Edit Post

Interestingly enough, they both had very different tones despite having the same electronics and very similar tones.
vbob
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Username: vbob

Post Number: 19
Registered: 12-2010
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 3:02 pm:   Edit Post

either way that's quite a set of bookends... Beautiful.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10032
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 7:46 pm:   Edit Post

The one on the left has a Mahogany body and the one on the right has a Maple body; so my guess is that the one on the left is a little warmer, and the one on the right has more attack and more high end support. Also, I can't recall seeing much discussion on this but it seems to me that because a five string has a more massive neck that a four string, that there may be a difference there as well, perhaps showing up here as a bit more sustain, and maybe even a touch more fundamental support, for the five string.
tsarter
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Username: tsarter

Post Number: 52
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post

They are both fives though, Dave. It was quite a while ago that I had those and I can't recall their tonal differences, but they were different for sure.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10035
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2011 - 6:35 pm:   Edit Post

Tim; my visual acuity is obviously and substantially less than optimal! What I was seeing is the difference between the custom taper on the left and the classic taper on the right. I do try to keep the car between the lines on the highway.
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 7156
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2011 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post

Well there is a pretty substantial difference between the masses of the necks between those tow tapers. The classic taper will sound closer to a 4-string tone-wise since it's so much narrower.

And of course the body woods on those two basses will certainly contribute to their differing sounds.
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2300
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 6:16 am:   Edit Post

I find what you say there interesting Mica, I have an Maple europa/elan with sig electronics and the narrow taper and also a mahogany Europa with standard electronics and a wider neck taper. I would have expected the Elan based bass to have a much more powerful sound but in the time I've had both basses I'm seeing the the reverse is the case and the standard Europa bass sounds much bigger fuller sound especially at the lower end. Maybe it is something to do with more wood in the bass or maybe just more mahogany. They are both fantastic basses though.

If I was allowed an extravagance I'd ask you to replace my bocate top for a lovely slice of Cocobolo, maybe keep a slice of the bocate in the sandwich for sentimental reasons. Out of curiousity only, is that possible?
jazzyvee

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