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malthumb
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Username: malthumb

Post Number: 105
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 9:36 pm:   Edit Post

I was just watching an old video tape of a Kool & the Gang concert where Kool is playing his quilted maple Series I. On a close up, it looked as though it was a carved top bass, as opposed to the usual hippie sandwich. Anybody know if this is truly the case?
davehouck
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Post Number: 158
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post

Here's the only picture I could find. It's a brief film clip from Top of the Pops.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/artists/k/kool_and_the_gang/video/kool_and_the_gang_ooh_la_la_la.ram
dannobasso
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Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 92
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 9:03 am:   Edit Post

A friend of mine provided a "rig" for Kool Bell at the Garden back in the day. It consisted of 2 stacks.
Double 18, double 15 and lens horn on each side of the stage powered by 4 BGW 1200's. Big Bottom!
dela217
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Username: dela217

Post Number: 198
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post

I could be wrong, but I think he owned an Oasis bass. Oasis basses and guitars was made by someone by the name of Gary Cooper. I think he was "an ex Alembic employee" too. The Oasis bass had the same body style. I think he liked the style so much that he had Alembic make a bass with that body. At least that is the way I heard it.
senmen
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Username: senmen

Post Number: 70
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Guys,

I just saw an old concert of the Gang just two nights before on german TV (Musikladen).
There Kool played a double cut Alembic bass.
This was long scale and a symmetrical double cut like the Stanley Clarke models. The body was very thick and had an incredible curly maple top.
The Oasis bass Dela talked about before stood aside during this gig.

Many greetings
Oliver Baumann
malthumb
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Username: malthumb

Post Number: 106
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 6:48 pm:   Edit Post

Senmen,

i think we watched the same video. Mine was also a Musikladen performance. In a couple areas I could see what looked like a twin to the bass Kool was playing sitting in a stand off in the wings.
bishopqdog
Junior
Username: bishopqdog

Post Number: 27
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 5:39 pm:   Edit Post

thanks for that footage. That was a blast from the past!
labes3
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Username: labes3

Post Number: 1
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Friday, September 16, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post

the bass robert(kool)bell is using is indeed his alembic the one on the stand is the oasis,i played both when the band i was with at the time shared de-lite studio with them.the oasis was a fine bass and well crafted but i dont recall who he said the builder was.his alembic is almost an exact mate to the one owned by mike(sugar bear)forman of philly international fame. at the time i was using a alembic modified fender jazz bass done for me at "my fathers workshop" in the 70's it served me until i got an alembic later in my career
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2370
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 8:27 am:   Edit Post

Thanks for the info Moises, and welcome to the group! I don't recall it being mentioned before that Mike Forman played an Alembic. I guess he did both guitar and bass sessions. Any idea what recordings he used the Alembic on?
labes3
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Username: labes3

Post Number: 2
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 3:48 pm:   Edit Post

thanks dave ,from what i understand from sugar bear when he invited me to test drive his alembic on a weekend we were both off he told me that the techs at sigma sound studios were having problems recording the bass. i attribute this to their unfamiliarity with the basses capabilities and controls.trust me they learned but later.i do belive that he did use it on some philly international recordings before his tragic death
i'll check with some of his session mates and get back to you .by the way i let go of my alembic back then because the producers at that time wanted the "fender" on r&b recordings. they wouldnt let me use my rickenbacker much less the alembic thank god times change
foth
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Username: foth

Post Number: 34
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 3:39 am:   Edit Post

Gary Cooper built the bass for Kool Bell in 1973. It was his first production instrument under his Oasis brand. I bought his first production guitar at the same time. It was a semihollow, with stereo low impedence Bartolinis. The Oasis company lasted 3 or 4 years, I think, though Gary continued to make special-order instruments under that name until his passing about 5 years ago. He worked as a guitar tech in the Sacramento area for 25 years after his Oasis venture and was a real treasure to musicians living in the central valley of California.
labes3
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Username: labes3

Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 1:36 pm:   Edit Post

thank you for the info foth im trying to catch up with robert bell and see if he still owns the oasis bass and if so i'll post a picture. i think a lot of alembic fans would recognize the quality in craftmanship put into this bass. by the way ,dave im still on finding what specific songs "bear" used his alembic on with philly international.so far ido know he used it on dedicated MFSB albums after anthony jacksons famous "Money" and "Got to give the people what they want" sessions for the O-Jays.these two songs were important because after these historic sessions philly producers at the time started to give us bassists more leeway as far as our input when it came to the sound of the bass on their recordings.hey dave do you know if tony jackson ever owned an alembic?
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2385
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 5:26 pm:   Edit Post

I don't know. But I did do a search and came across and old Bass Player article that, though it didn't answer the question, was pretty interesting reading.
88persuader
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Username: 88persuader

Post Number: 155
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 3:33 am:   Edit Post

Dave that was a great article ... very interesting!
labes3
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Username: labes3

Post Number: 4
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 1:37 pm:   Edit Post

dave when it comes to reserch you are the master .write a book ! or i'll pick your head and write it myself (giving you appropriate credit of course)
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2393
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 7:52 pm:   Edit Post

LOL!!! Thanks! It's just that I prefer to spend inordinate amounts of time doing stuff related to the board rather than doing actual work.
jacko
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Username: jacko

Post Number: 339
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 4:23 am:   Edit Post

LoL aswell! I prefer to spend inordinate amounts of time reading the stuff you've done on the board rather than doing actual work.

Graeme
jacko
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Username: jacko

Post Number: 376
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 4:23 am:   Edit Post

There's a picture of Kool playing what looks like an alembic in the Funk bassist special from Bass Player. It has all the correct electrics and the tailpiece and bridge look right - what it doesn't have is a truss-rod cover. I'll scan the pic tonight and post it tomorrow.

Graeme
adriaan
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Username: adriaan

Post Number: 635
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 6:13 am:   Edit Post

Alembics didn't have truss rod covers until 77 or 78 or thereabouts, so that would make sense.
jacko
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Username: jacko

Post Number: 378
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post

As promised...
koolbell

Graeme

BTW. the article states his current weapon of choice is a Zon Sonus!
adriaan
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Username: adriaan

Post Number: 651
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 2:19 am:   Edit Post

Body shape brings back memories of Keavin's old #16 (or was it #12?).

It certainly looks more "fresh, exciting" - oops, didn't I just quote Mr Kool himself?

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