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the_mule
Intermediate Member Username: the_mule
Post Number: 113 Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 1:04 pm: | |
Thanks to the Alembic Club, even during my relatively short membership period, I've found some great CD's and DVD's on which artists use Alembics (almost) exclusively. I'd love us all to join hands and create some kind of constantly growing 'reference guide'... Jerry Garcia Band - How Sweet It Is... Stanley Clarke - same Stanley Clarke - Live 1976-1977 Stanley Clarke - If This Bass Could Only Talk Return To Forever - Romantic Warrior Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention - One Size Fits All Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention - Overnite Sensation Grateful Dead - The Closing Of Winterland (DVD) Led Zeppelin - DVD Who's next? |
wayne
Intermediate Member Username: wayne
Post Number: 102 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 1:31 pm: | |
CD: Flim and the BB's - Neon DVD: James Taylor - Live at the Beacon Theater The player in both cases is Jimmy Johnson. Next!?! C-Ya............wayne |
dadabass2001
Intermediate Member Username: dadabass2001
Post Number: 169 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 1:41 pm: | |
DVD: James Taylor - Pull Over (supporting the "October Road" CD still more Jimmy Johnson |
kenbass4
Intermediate Member Username: kenbass4
Post Number: 103 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 2:14 pm: | |
Wilfred, It's funny you ended with "Who's Next".... DVD - The Who: The Kids Are Alright - Special Edition Ken (TEO) |
811952
Intermediate Member Username: 811952
Post Number: 196 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 8:03 pm: | |
And my picks... "Too Late The Hero" - John Entwistle "Works Volume I" - ELP "Animal Logic" and "Animal Logic II" - (Stanley on bass, Stewart Copeland hitting things and Debra Holland on piano and vocals) John |
alembic76407
Advanced Member Username: alembic76407
Post Number: 302 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 5:45 am: | |
Don't forget, Harry Chapin Live at Rockplast John Wallace is playing his Series 1 bass Doug Walker is playing his Series 1 guitar. and its a great show and worth the money |
bracheen
Senior Member Username: bracheen
Post Number: 464 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 5:54 am: | |
Did Greg Lake play his Alembic with King Crimson? I'm thinking specifically of 21st Century Schizoid Man. Sam |
davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck
Post Number: 645 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 6:24 am: | |
According to an interview with Guitar Player magazine in September, 1974, Greg Lake's main bass while with Crimson was a Fender Jazz. He also says that during that time he tried a Gibson and a Rickenbacker. |
811952
Intermediate Member Username: 811952
Post Number: 200 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 8:25 am: | |
I forgot about Chapin's "Greatest Stories Live" John Wallace with the Series I, which was the first bass I had ever seen with LEDs on the neck, back in high school, and the tickets for the concert were $7.00. Greg Lake played the Jazz Bass up through early ELP. I've got a video somewhere with them playing Knife Edge and parts of Pictures at an Exhibition on some English television program, and he's using the Jazz Bass.. John |
bracheen
Senior Member Username: bracheen
Post Number: 465 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 9:02 am: | |
Well, duh, now that I think about it Alembic wasn't making instruments then. Sam |
fmm
Junior Username: fmm
Post Number: 32 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 9:04 am: | |
I got to play John Wallace's bass after a concert in Dubuque, Iowa. Anyone know what he's been up to recently? |
alembic76407
Advanced Member Username: alembic76407
Post Number: 303 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 9:58 am: | |
I think John is a graphic artist in Philly and sometimes he shows up on stage with a Harry Chapin tribute band, he has a web site or two, do a search on google for John Wallace |
muller1007
Member Username: muller1007
Post Number: 58 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 1:12 am: | |
CDs: Level 42 "Live at Wembley" 1989 (Mark King, Series 2) Michael Dowdle "Soulmate" (jimmy Johnson, Series 2) Jan Olof Strandberg "The Electric City" (Series 1 and 2) Stanley Clarke "East River Drive" (Stanley and Armand Sabal-Lecco, Series 1 and 2) Gil Scott-Heron "Moving Target" (Robert Gordon, Series 1) DVD: Grupo Mark King Live 2000 (Mark King, Series 2) -Region 2 DVD- (Message edited by muller1007 on June 11, 2004) |
basstard
Member Username: basstard
Post Number: 99 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 3:03 am: | |
Now some heavier distorted (while still great) sounds: Type O Negative "Bloody Kisses" and "October Rust" (Peter Steele, Spoiler and Epic) ...and something that came as a surprise when I leanred it: Red Hot Chili Peppers "One Hot Minute" (Flea, Epic on most songs except "Aeroplane" where he used a Music Man). |
thebass
Intermediate Member Username: thebass
Post Number: 138 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 1:34 pm: | |
Don't forget the "Wizard" from Mother's Finest. |
the_mule
Intermediate Member Username: the_mule
Post Number: 117 Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 12:18 am: | |
I hope anyone can clear this up for me: I've always understood that The Grateful Dead's first studio recording featuring the Alembicized Starfire bass was 'AoxomoxoA', but what was the last one with the beloved Alembic sound, 'Shakedown Street'? Why did Phil Lesh switch from Alembic to Modulus anyway? Are there reliable sources (interviews perhaps) available about this subject? |
davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck
Post Number: 650 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 6:59 am: | |
Well here's what I've been able to find in answer to Mule's question. According to an interview Phil did with Bass Player magazine, June and July of 2000, at some point he "went back to basics and played a Music Man bass for a while". Then "around '81" he heard that Modulus was making a "fiber-graphite, neck-through-body 6-string" bass, and he's played Modulus "ever since". In a 1982 article for Musician magazine, David Gans says "after years of using sophisticated, custom-made basses, Lesh recently turned to simpler instruments -- but only temporarily. A chance encounter with a '57 Jazz bass caused him to shelve his Doug Irwin (a twin to Garcia's six-string), and he subsequently switched to a new G&L bass". But then he writes that "the G&L will soon be replaced by Lesh's dream bass". Here he's talking about a six string that "will incorporate a filter developed by Lesh and Alembic for the modified Guild Starfire II that Lesh played from 1971 to 1974". Edwin Hurwitz, a member of our forum, in a bio piece for the Philzone.com, writes "the short story is this: Phil started out on a Gibson EB0, then moved to a Fender Jazz Bass which he used until '68. After that he played a not very modified Guild Starfire (preamps and some magnet changes in the pickups) through late '69 or so (Live Dead is a great example of this sound). The next bass was a heavily modified Gibson EB3 (I think it was a long instrument) which had new hardware, preamps and Guild single coil pickups installed by Alembic. This bass can be heard on Skullfuck and other recordings of the time (DP from the Fillmore '70 show is an excellent example of this instrument). This instrument was stolen (anybody out there seen it?) and was followed by the Starfire, but this time it had it's front removed and replaced with all new pickups and electronics, including an Alembic superfilter and quadraphonic pickup. The headstock was also replaced. It was called the Godfather. This is the bass heard on Europe '72 and in a lot of ways my favorite of Phil's various sounds. It can be seen at Alembic's website. In '73 he received his first Alembic 4 string bass that was also quite an instrument, it was also quad and is seen in the Grateful Dead movie. It interfaced quite well with the Wall of Sound. This bass was followed by a Doug Irwin and then a G&L as well as Flirtations with an old Fender Jazz. Finally, in the early 80s he got his first Modulus 6 string." |
the_mule
Intermediate Member Username: the_mule
Post Number: 119 Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 11:15 am: | |
Well Dave, thanks for the info. I think it's safe to say that around 1977/1978 the relationship between Phil and Alembic faded, which brings me to the next additions to the list of Alembic(ized) recordings: Grateful Dead - Aoxomoxoa - Live/Dead - Workingman's Dead - American Beauty - Grateful Dead (Skull & Roses) - Europe '72 - Wake Of The Flood - Grateful Dead From The Mars Hotel - Blues For Allah - Steal Your Face - Terrapin Station |
son_of_magni
Member Username: son_of_magni
Post Number: 58 Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 5:23 pm: | |
I suppose you could just put most of the SC discography on the list (at least after Chick told him to can the upright, or was it when the upright fell off the stage and 'blew up'). But one of my first SC albums was Journey to Love, which has some nice Alembic sounds. SoM |
dadabass2001
Intermediate Member Username: dadabass2001
Post Number: 175 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 5:14 am: | |
CD recommendation: Andy West with Dixie Dregs (I got a compilation CD called 20th Century Masters - kind of a greatest "hits") Mike |
thebass
Intermediate Member Username: thebass
Post Number: 139 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:15 am: | |
...and Jason Newstedt/Metallica. On-Stage he uses: Alembic - Elan - Black (5 strings) Alembic - Europa - Black (6 strings) Alembic - Europa - Black (5 strings) Alembic - Europa - Black (4 strings) Alembic - Spoiler - Black (4 strings) (x2) Alembic - Spoiler - Natural colored ESP Bass - Red ESP B-1 - Black Guild among others. For Recording/Non-Stage he uses Alembic - Europa - Black (4 strings) Alembic - Europa - Black (10 strings) and other Non-Alembic Basses. |
haddimudd
Junior Username: haddimudd
Post Number: 27 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 5:51 am: | |
Duncan, The "Grupo Mark King Live 2000" DVD is not region code 2 but indeed region code free. It is in PAL video though, not NTSC (maybe that's what you meant). A great Alembic reference DVD that is, no doubt! Hartmut |
dannobasso
Junior Username: dannobasso
Post Number: 49 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 4:12 pm: | |
In addition to the other wonderful selections Jimmy Johnson with Allan Holdsworth. Metal Fatigue Wardencliff Tower Andy West w/ The Dregs Styx Nazareth (Jason now uses Sadowsky 4's and 5's. I know, I don't get it either) Me with Doomtree to be released late July on @ntidote Records. Excel 5 - F1x, Spoiler 4 BEAD There will also be a limited edition European release that I used a Distilate 5 on. Danno |
haddimudd
Junior Username: haddimudd
Post Number: 33 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 10:27 am: | |
I watched a Weird Al Jancovic DVD again today and to my surprise realized an Alembic (Series I?) in a few of the videos. It was at least in "Ricky" and "Living with a Hernia"... Does anybody know anything about Al's bassist and the Alembic he plays? Hartmut |
alembic76407
Advanced Member Username: alembic76407
Post Number: 315 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 10:55 am: | |
Steve Jay is weird Al's bass player,the video I have Stvev plays a SC and he has 2 on stage with him.his web site is , Stephenjay.com and there's some stuff on steve Weird Als web site David T (a big Weird Al fan) |