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tmoney61092
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Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 727
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 1:42 pm:   Edit Post

so for the past couple months I have been dreaming of getting a Fender bass vi. I was wondering if anyone has experience with one of these, I'd definitely be going after one of the 90's re-issues, mainly because I don't have $3000 to drop on one of these haha. Any and all info helps as well as opinions!

~Taylor
hydrargyrum
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Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 1045
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 2:29 pm:   Edit Post

I see that everyone's favorite spokesman Phil X has a review of one of the vintage Bass VI's. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpLqIpDdLYs
tmoney61092
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Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 728
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 3:18 pm:   Edit Post

Hahaha that dude has got to be jacked on something! But I've actually watched most his videos on this and LOVE the sound, my plan is to be in a band with one other guitarist, a drummer, and a singer(I play bass) so I was thinking of playing this in any songs that need another high end part every now and then while still being able to play the bass part when necessary, I was just wondering about personal experiences anyone has

~Taylor
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 1691
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 3:37 pm:   Edit Post

wrong guy to demonstrate..same one who did the Alembic one.
Fender VI were baritone guitars, very nice in their sounds and unique.
Spoilt by this person's interpretation.
Depends on what you are wanting sonically and playability
pace
Senior Member
Username: pace

Post Number: 766
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 3:39 pm:   Edit Post

Honestly, I dont like the fingerboard radius on these..... I had a Jerry Jones longhorn VI for several years, and it was one of my main basses with my trio. I probably used it in the same way you intend to, Ty..... I based my first custom Alembic on the bass VI E-E concept, and was delighted w/ the results:



afrobeat_fool
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Username: afrobeat_fool

Post Number: 364
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 3:46 pm:   Edit Post

I had one for years. My guitarist bro played it mostly. I did not like it for bass, but my gear was not the best. I think an SF-2 would be the thing for it. I loved it as a guitar! the tone and spacing was really good. I changed the bridge and nut and put TOMASTIK Jazz flats on it and it sang. I don't know how the reissues are. Mine was a 64' Good luck!


Nick
dnburgess
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Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 657
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 3:13 am:   Edit Post

I have a real soft spot for the bass vi. We had a new reissue in a couple of years back and it was very nice.

It was the subject of a fraudulent Amex purchase - subesequent to which Amex pulled our merchant account even though we followed correct procedures.
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4933
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post

I had a reissue Bass VI for a little while before trading for an older Martin classical and cash. I got the Bass VI in a trade with a guy who used it in a band where they all dressed as Hasidic Jews and played traditional Jewish songs (think Hava Nagila) in surf style. Really twisted and wonderful. He played lead on the Bass VI with gobs of reverb. It worked quite well. It really is more of a baritone guitar than a true bass.

Bill, tgo

(Message edited by lbpesq on September 03, 2011)
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 1067
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 6:44 am:   Edit Post

Let see if I have this right, Bill - you had a reissue Bass VI; you got an older Martin and cash for it? Well done, my friend!

Peter (who used to have a copy of the Klezmonauts' Oy To The World, where they did Xmas carols klezmer style. Did your guy's band do any recording? I love twisted!)
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4934
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 9:05 am:   Edit Post

Peter, my friend. The guitar is a Martin 00-18-C - not exactly the most valuable, but I hadn't owned a gut string in over 30 years.

As for the band, they are called "Meshugga Beach Party". Their site can be found here.
Enjoy!

Bill, tJgo. (the Jewish guitar one)
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2570
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post

Is this the guitar being discussed?
It's being played by John Lennon in this clip of the song Let it Be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdopMqrftXs&feature=related
There is a few seconds of it at 2:42 into the video.

Jazzyvee
rami
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Username: rami

Post Number: 965
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post

I have a Fender Jaguar Custom VI. It's Japanese made and now discontinued. It has the Jaguar body shape and electronics, with the Bass VI 30" scale. It has a stop bar tailpiece rather than the Bass VI vibrato. I find it quite a cool instrument. It works better as a Bass rather than a Guitar. The strings are too closely spaced to play with your fingers so it has to be played with a pick. When played as a Bass, it sounds like a Bass. It sounds too weird to be played as a Guitar. Chords are too heavy and muddy. I feel it's really meant to be played as a Bass with a pick. The high B and E strings are useful if you like Guitar patterns and phrasing. Overall, I prefer a Bass or a Guitar over it. It's more of a novelty (to me) than anything else.
pace
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Username: pace

Post Number: 770
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 6:22 am:   Edit Post

The guy from the Beatles tribute Rain has one of those Jaguars.... Thanks for refreshing my memory, Rami~ I knew it didn't have a tremolo bridge.
mario_farufyno
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Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 729
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 7:24 am:   Edit Post

Wow Bill, that is a band pic I would enjoy to see, ha!
benson_murrensun
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Username: benson_murrensun

Post Number: 529
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 9:40 am:   Edit Post

I would take a look at the Schecter Hellcat VI before I made a purchase.
http://www.schecterguitars.com/Products/Guitar/Hellcat-VI.aspx
tmoney61092
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Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 730
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post

It's funny that you posted that benson because i had literally just discovered those yesterday and was going to post about them!! there are some good videos of all the Schecter "VI" models(they have 3) and I'm leaning towards this one http://www.schecterguitars.com/Products/Guitar/Ultra-VI.aspx partly because i love silverbursts and also you can get any combination of pickups and split which ever ones you want at the same time!

~Taylor
benson_murrensun
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Username: benson_murrensun

Post Number: 530
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post

Taylor,

I didn't know there were other Schecter VI models. I have a Schecter Stiletto Studio 8-string bass, which is my only experience with that company. It is a ridiculously good value.
tmoney61092
Senior Member
Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 731
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post

yep! here are the 3 different models:

Hellcat VI(Maple neck, alder body, bolt on): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01JC7y_NvWo

Ultra(Mahagony body and neck, set neck): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__Am5tkI1Jw

Hellraiser C-VI(same as Ultra VI): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqzwc3EfYcc&feature=related

all of them are very cool and affordable but i feel like the Ultra has the widest range of sounds(and the most unique body shape of course!) so would choose that or the Hellcat VI

~Taylor
redcloud
Junior
Username: redcloud

Post Number: 41
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post

These recently discussed Schecter models and the Fender VI have me a little intrigued as another creative option. Despite the fact that the Schecter only runs about $700, this sort of instrument would make a cool custom.

Any suggestions regarding Alembic's models for the size/shape, neck recipe, woods, and pup configuration/choice
for such an instrument?
redcloud
Junior
Username: redcloud

Post Number: 43
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 4:26 pm:   Edit Post

Well, I have thought about it a little and I think it could be a "Europa" body, 30" scale, 1 3/4" nut with 2 3/8" spacing at the bridge, and the neck recipe should be mahogany/ebony/ maple/ ebony/ maple/ ebony/ mahogany. I think the core should be mahogany, but I can't think of what top and back wood would be nice to use with sandwiched maple laminations.
adriaan
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Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2855
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post

If you're looking for ideas, the Featured Custom section is usually a good place to start ...

Buckeye Burl - 30" scale 6er loosely based on a Jerry Jones
hydrargyrum
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Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 1051
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 7:44 am:   Edit Post

Wow Adriaan, the bridge on that Jerry Jones inspired 6er is wild. Definitely an interesting departure.
benson_murrensun
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Username: benson_murrensun

Post Number: 531
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post

It looks like a Danelectro bridge (with upgraded materials of course) that has been compensated. We have a Dano short scale at our house, on which we just swapped the standard bridge (non-compensated) for a metal adjustable one. Now it plays in tune but the tone changed somewhat.
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 958
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2011 - 7:43 pm:   Edit Post

I thought I posted in this thread but I guess not. I have one of the Fender Japan Bass VI reissues. Mine is from about 1996. It has an issue with the tremolo bridge - the spring is too strong or too weak, so the bridge is tilted all the way back, so the screw that holds the bridge saddle on the E string interferes with the string's vibration. Also, I didn't like the "tortoise shell" pickguard - it looks like a low resolution scan or something - so I had a black replacement made. Here's a couple of pics, one with the old pickguard (and my old cat Sadie admiring it), one with the new:

bass VI

bass VI 2

I don't play it much because of the E string issue, but I pulled it out today and played it through my amp - it sounded great! I want to get it fixed now. I consider this a short-scale, extended range bass guitar. I would play it like a bass, probably with pick but fingers is possible, though the string spacing is very narrow.

One player who plays the Bass VI like a regular bass, and with his fingers no less, is Rob Babbington of later Soft Machine fame. Here's a pretty good video: http://youtu.be/3ws8TqsX2nM
redcloud
Junior
Username: redcloud

Post Number: 46
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2011 - 5:20 am:   Edit Post

Well, I have been exploring this sort of instrument. No on has the Ernie Ball/Music Man "Sihouette Bass" and I tried the Schecter product but did not like their pups at all.

I did come across Robert Elrick who makes a 6 string piccolo although the price point is much higher than EB/MM or Schecter. He uses Bartolini pups, a plus.

I know Alembic would do this tuning proud but I have 2 of their basses and 2 of their guitars already.
crobbins
Senior Member
Username: crobbins

Post Number: 920
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2011 - 6:22 pm:   Edit Post

I hear you singing through the lines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qoymGCDYzU
hieronymous
Senior Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 959
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2011 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for posting that! I love the chords leading into the solo, cool solo too! Definitely seems live, the way he keeps messing with the controls at the beginning...

The Bass VI definitely strikes me as a versatile instrument. It would be fun to play with two Bass VI's and drummer! Also, I've got mine up and running - I just pulled on the bridge and it slid into place! Played it for a while today and had a lot of fun. I don't have much of a problem playing it with a pick, playing with fingers is a little weird but I can see getting used to it with practice. Plus it's fun to play an instrument tuned EADGBE again!
redcloud
Junior
Username: redcloud

Post Number: 47
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 5:07 am:   Edit Post

Crobbins, thanks for the link.

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