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herbbone
Junior
Username: herbbone

Post Number: 19
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 3:26 pm:   Edit Post

Just finished listening to the new album. Very cool! As with any new DT stuff I will have to listen many times to get the flow. Some songs seems like reformulated old songs. Also picking up the Kansas and Tull influence. Really like the song Outcry. Had to comment I have been a listener since 1991.
tncaveman
Junior
Username: tncaveman

Post Number: 32
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 7:21 pm:   Edit Post

I really love DT and haven't heard the new drummer yet. Is he similar to Mike Portnoy?

And speaking of Mike P - I saw him with Neal Morse this summer and WOW - what a band. I am a new fan of Transatlantic. Peter T is an awesome bass player form Marillion. Some awesome new prog rock.

Steve
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 3016
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 - 1:30 am:   Edit Post

I've only heard the song they released online (on the backs of angels) so far but really enjoyed it. The album should drop through my letterbox today. Looking forward to it.
Also just heard they're touring early next year so I'll be seeing them in glasgow on Feb 8th and my mate is trying to convince me to go to manchester the day after aswell. (this mate is a superb drummer and he rates Mike mangini higher than portnoy - I'm waiting to see them before I pass judgement)

Graeme
herbbone
Junior
Username: herbbone

Post Number: 20
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 - 3:33 am:   Edit Post

The drums sound fuller not as poppy as Portnoy. Similar in style but noticably not the same player. I think Rudess sounds fuller. The whole album has a thicker feel.
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 3018
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 - 8:24 am:   Edit Post

Apparently Myung has written more than one song for this album!!!!!

graeme
herbbone
Junior
Username: herbbone

Post Number: 21
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 - 4:56 pm:   Edit Post

Neat change up at 8:46 in Outcry. Breaking all Illusions kind of reminds me of 70's prog. Cool stuff. Still taking it all in.
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 3020
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 5:43 am:   Edit Post

Liking it a lot after 3 listens. To my ears the drums are slightly lower in the mix than past offerings and I'm pretty certain I'm hearing more Myung than before. Very tasteful bassline from 1:40 on Breaking all Illusions. It'll take a few more listens before I can decide if there's any track on there that I like as much as Forsaken.
Tickets for Glasgow ordered yesterday ;-0

Graeme
wishbass
Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 58
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 7:36 pm:   Edit Post

Nice to see some prog fans! Hello from the Northwest!
wishbass
Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 59
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 8:49 pm:   Edit Post

Not a lot of prog in the states.big fan of the "usuals",Yes,Rush,Marillion etc.,and have recently discovered Porqupine Tree, Riverside( really like these guys), and IQ.Do you chaps across the pond have any other suggestions I might not have heard of here in the states? Karl
herbbone
Junior
Username: herbbone

Post Number: 23
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 1:11 pm:   Edit Post

I like a band called Shadow Gallery. Early stuff off of Carved in Stone and Tyranny. Other bands, Dali's Dalema is pretty good. Symphony X. Any DT schizms Platypus, Mule Muzzler, Transaltlantic, Liquid Tension. BTW I am on the east coast, in Pa. Did spend some time in Eugene.

Mark
tncaveman
Junior
Username: tncaveman

Post Number: 34
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 8:02 pm:   Edit Post

I'm in the "fly over territory" where country music is king (and lame 80's leftovers).

Try out www.pandora.com - enter a band and it will play songs from similar artists. I have discovered tons of new stuff: Transalantic, Porcupine Tree, Dejam Karet, Boud Deun (check out the link - only 2 albums available) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av3M3Dn1EU4 Ozric Tentacles, etc. Lots of stuff out there if you can find it!

Stephen
wishbass
Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 60
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 9:02 pm:   Edit Post

Yes, pandora is great.Its how I discovered Porqupine Tree,Riverside ,Opeths "Damnation" album.They came up on my Marillion station.I like Ozric Tenticles as well as RPNW.Keep the suggestions coming.Thanks!
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10382
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 4:58 pm:   Edit Post

I have the second album by Liquid Tension Experiment, and can highly recommend it to progressive fans who haven't heard it. Listening to "Hourglass" off that album now; beautiful tune.
edwin
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 1037
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 5:24 pm:   Edit Post

I'm going to have to check these guys out at some point. According to the alumni stuff I get from Berklee, at least one of them was in my class and then I just found out that someone I went to band camp with way back in the 70s is married to the keyboard player (she was a badass bassoonist back in the day). It feels like they are circling in on me!
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10383
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 6:03 pm:   Edit Post

Here's a video of the new lineup playing On the Backs of Angels
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10385
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 7:50 am:   Edit Post

Last night I stayed up and watched the three-part video series that Dream Theater made of the auditions for their new drummer. It was quite well done, and I recommend it for those interested in a very human and offstage view of a significant chapter in the life of a major band with a long history. The video is similar to the video Metallica made of their auditions for their bass position.
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 3021
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 1:54 am:   Edit Post

Thanks for the recommendation Dave. The CD came with a 60 minute DVD of the drummer auditions which i guess is the same feature. I just haven't had time to watch it yet - Mrs J isn't a DT fan so I have to wait till she's doing something else before I can use the TV for my own purposes ;-)

Graeme
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10388
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 9:07 am:   Edit Post

Graeme; yes I think it is the same thing. I think you'll like it. Oh, and it's not really so focused on DT's music that people who aren't fans wouldn't like it. I think it's a cool "human interest" story, well told. I think that someone who has little or no appreciation for this type of music could still enjoy this video. So tell Mrs J that I suggested it's not just for DT fans, and that I think she might like the ending; the ending is worth sitting through a bunch of flashy drumming. In fact, it probably works best for someone who doesn't know beforehand who won the audition. But of course for musicians who've played in bands, and especially for drummers, it's a very cool video.
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 3023
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2011 - 4:38 am:   Edit Post

Well I finally managed to make time yesterday evening to watch the DVD (made me late for rehearsals but not as late as the drummer) and as Dave has already said, it's an excellent programme. As it was teatime for me I managed to get Sandra to sit through most of it and she was almost as enthralled as I was although she thought Marco Minneman should have got the job. I don't know if it was purely because I already knew the result but I had the distinct impression that Mangini was a forgone conclusion even before he reached the rehearsal room. He seemed to get more screen time than the rest of the drummers put together. His reaction to the news at the end was emotional enough to bring a lump to my throat.
Just been reading a report that Portnoy may be suing DT although his lawyer denies it in the same report. As usual, some of the fan comments below the report are ludicous. I'd like to think that in the real world they're all still great friends.

Graeme
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 3024
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2011 - 5:07 am:   Edit Post

Also, I have to mention at the minute I'm listening to The Dance of Eternity from scenes from a memory which was one of the audition parts and I have no idea how Portnoy remembered all the time changes never mind someone coming in off the street!!

Graeme
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10389
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2011 - 6:51 pm:   Edit Post

Yeah; Marco was great! I loved how the band talked about the "joy" with which he played. Here he is in concert with Adrian Belew and Julie Slick.
rustyg61
Advanced Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 324
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 9:10 am:   Edit Post

I downloaded the stems for On The Backs Of Angels & loaded it into Pro Tools so I can re-record me playing the bass track & have a recording of me playing with my favorite band!

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Get-Stems-For-Dream-Theaters-On-The-Backs-Of-Angels-23436.aspx

Mangini is an AMAZING drummer, he sounds like a drum machine when you solo his track!
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10393
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 3:26 pm:   Edit Post

That's pretty neat that they provide those tracks.
rustyg61
Advanced Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 325
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 4:01 am:   Edit Post

I thought so too Dave! They don't give you all the tracks individually, just guitar, bass, drums, keys & vocals. Each instrument has all it's parts mixed to one track, in other words, the rhythm & lead guitars are on the same track & multiple keys are on the same track, but you can still re-record parts & remix the song to your liking. I don't have a 6 string bass like John Myung has, so I'll have to get creative with Elastic Audio in Pro Tools to drop some notes an octave.

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