| Author | Message | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 234 Registered: 5-2011 |
So, I was jamming w/my drummer buddy,and got to talking.Given the unique relationship between bassists and drummers,both of us have lists in our heads ,me a list of favorite drummers,and he fave bassists. So I got to thinking,my list has the usuals;Neil Peart ,Vinnie Caliauta,Omar Hakim,Stewert Copeland,Gavin Harrison,and some that I just like;the original drummer from the Pretenders,Herb from Primus,Futureman,the drummer from Dave Mathews etc,etc. My question...who is on your list?My list only scratches the surface.I could easily add 20 more if I thought about it.Who would you like to jam with if you could jam w/anybody? | ||
| slawie
Advanced Member Username: slawie Post Number: 391 Registered: 8-2002 |
Animal from the Muppets Karen Carpenter Keith Moon and... The guy who stands on the back of the boat in the movie Jason and the Argonauts slawie | ||
| hieronymous
Senior Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 1112 Registered: 1-2005 |
Nice idea! People that were influential either early on or over the years, in some kind of chronological order: Bill Ward, Neil Peart, Ringo Starr (whether I realized it or not), Mitch Mitchell, Ian Paice, Michael Shrieve, Bill Bruford, Jack DeJohnette, Tony Williams, Jaki Liebezeit, Christian Vander, Apt. Q-258, John Marshall (later Soft Machine), Peter Erskine, Lenny White, Billy Cobham, Zigaboo Modeliste, Bill Kreutzmann, Pierre Moerlen. If I could jam with anybody, it would be Jimi Hendrix & Mitch Mitchell! Or how about Jerry Garcia and Jack DeJohnette?!! And of course, the drummer who has influenced me the most is my friend Greg DeGuglielmo, and he is someone I have been fortunate to actually play with a lot. He's on all my recordings, he can rock & he can improvise and is always very musical - a lot of times I take just his drum track and create a whole new song out of it! | ||
| bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 1855 Registered: 9-2002 |
Drummers . . . . I often think they're the hardest instrument to learn: You're making music on something that's NOT musical. I've played with two kinds: I had what I called 'time' drummers. These guys were like the ultimate drum machines, ferocious swing and groove, but they were all time-based, not so much that particular tune, but you could double-check a good watch by their time. Then I'd play with more musical drummers. Had the chops and the grooves, but often I could hear them playing lines that the they were lifting straight from other parts, inside of their groove they were playing. This is where I put 2+2 together that the rudiments really were like scales for the rest of us: I'd hear a paradiddle or a flam here and there, and the light came on. Especially if he could 'breathe' the time in and out in spots of a tune, then snap back right in on the next downbeat. Amazing. I practiced with a metronome for years when I played piano, so I was a SOB if I wound up on a club gig with someone with wandering time . . . For me, there was nobody like Jeff Porcaro. I still listen to that drum line in Toto's 'Pamela' and just am drawn like a moth to a flame . . . . there's so many I admired, I'd be here all day. J o e y | ||
| musashi
Intermediate Member Username: musashi Post Number: 168 Registered: 5-2004 |
Yes, Joey. | ||
| murray
Intermediate Member Username: murray Post Number: 118 Registered: 7-2007 |
Buddy Rich - scarily brilliant and scary! | ||
| darkstar01
Senior Member Username: darkstar01 Post Number: 407 Registered: 6-2005 |
i'm not sure how you can say drums aren't musical, but that's another story. Dave King (the Bad Plus/Happy Apple) Jack Dejohnette Milford Graves Billy Martin more and more and more..... | ||
| jacko
Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 3167 Registered: 10-2002 |
I'd love to jam with Mike Mangini but I believe he's pretty busy with Dream Theater now :-) Neil Peart and Mike portnoy are pretty high on my list too but I think first on my list would be Ringo. Graeme | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 235 Registered: 5-2011 |
Speaking of prog bands,I would love to play with the drummer who played on Marillions "Misplaced Childhood"album.Not sure if he's still with them.Fantastic album that left a permanent mark on me.... | ||
| jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 2884 Registered: 6-2002 |
Lenny White, Billy Cobham, Art Blakey, Bernard Perdie, Ginger Baker would be on my list jazzyvee | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 236 Registered: 5-2011 |
I love Billy Cobham!Good call!Cudos to the rest as well.Wouldn't it be cool to see all these guys ,and all our fave bass players on the same stage!? | ||
| hammer
Intermediate Member Username: hammer Post Number: 120 Registered: 9-2009 |
In no particular order of preference: Peter Erskine, Jack Dejohnette, Tony Williams, Bobby Columby, (if one forgets his days as a reporter for ET), Danny Seraphine, Aynsley Dunbar, Art Blakey, and Paul Motian. And I'd add Airto Moreira if one is permitted to include a percussionist. | ||
| jacko
Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 3169 Registered: 10-2002 |
I'm going to add Stewart Copeland to my list - a superb cymbal player. I've also wanted to play with a mate of mine - Geordie Clark from The Force but I moved from the north east 30 years ago and he didn't so it's unlikely to happen. Graeme | ||
| cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member Username: cozmik_cowboy Post Number: 1212 Registered: 10-2006 |
Mickey Hart and/or Bill Kreutzmann, of course; Joe Craven (though he does hand & mounted percussion, not drums); Dom Famularo (did sound for a Tama clinic with him & Cobham once - Cobham on 25K-piece signature set, Dom on 5-piece - blew Billy clean off the riser!); my son David. Peter | ||
| pauldo
Senior Member Username: pauldo Post Number: 814 Registered: 6-2006 |
Besides those mentioned earlier I would like to suggest Gerry Brown and Ronald Brunner Jr. and of course my wife!! :-D | ||
| rustyg61
Senior Member Username: rustyg61 Post Number: 550 Registered: 2-2011 |
Neil Peart Rod Morgenstein Mike Portnoy Simon Phillips Dave Weckl Lenny White Billy Cobham Terry Bozio Phil Collins (Early Genesis when he was a drummer & not a singer!) | ||
| benson_murrensun
Senior Member Username: benson_murrensun Post Number: 606 Registered: 5-2007 |
I'd like to play with Tom Ardolino, Charlie Watts, Frank Beard. Groove guys who swing. | ||
| kenbass4
Senior Member Username: kenbass4 Post Number: 409 Registered: 10-2003 |
Wishbass, that drummer would Ian Mosley, yes he's still with them (and playing spectacularly to this day) and he's also on my wishlist, along with the usual suspects Neil Peart, Bill Bruford, Alan white (Hey, he had to learn Bill Bruford's stuff in 2 weeks!)Phil Collins, Nick D'virgillio, Gavin Harrison | ||
| peoplechipper
Advanced Member Username: peoplechipper Post Number: 278 Registered: 2-2009 |
In addition to many mentioned, how about Jimmy Carl Black? his tribal sounding drums in the Mothers of Invention was cool...also Dale Crover of the Melvins | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 237 Registered: 5-2011 |
Thanks Ken!That album was so magical.I really need to check out the" post-Fish"Marillion.I've heard some stuff here and there and like what I've heard.I recently Discovered a band called Riverside(they are a must) that really got started from their love of Marillion,and that has inspired me to start making some Marillion purchases,as well as Fish's solo work. | ||
| benson_murrensun
Senior Member Username: benson_murrensun Post Number: 607 Registered: 5-2007 |
NOT the drummers from Spinal Tap, thank you. | ||
| oddmetersam
Intermediate Member Username: oddmetersam Post Number: 192 Registered: 7-2008 |
Trilok Gurtu blurs the distinction between drum set players and conventional percussionists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxnfCSkWzs&feature=related Paco Sery: ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNCRaXxv69w&feature=related Manu Katche: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--3QCzDFTtE&feature=related Omar Hakim: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj8bGVWo6LY&feature=related Narada Michael Walden, Vinnie Colaiuta, Jeff Sipe, Simon Phillips, Steve Gadd....and the guys I currently play with: Paul Costa, Peter Curzon and Sam Markewich! | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 238 Registered: 5-2011 |
Can't believe I didn't mention Manu Katche!I need to check the others out as well. | ||
| jzstephan
Member Username: jzstephan Post Number: 57 Registered: 1-2012 |
I played in a band in the early 1980's that the Bellamy Brothers drummer sat in with. Usually, we all left the stage for the drummers solo, but when he started, I could clearly hear the melody of the song in his solo. I stopped dead i my tracks to listen to this amazing display of musicianship! Nothing flashy, just music. | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 2478 Registered: 5-2009 |
I love many that have been already mentioned here but we can't forget ; Jerry Granelli , Joe Morello, Mike Clark ,Gene Krupa ....I know, I will think of more ... ... ... | ||
| dnburgess
Senior Member Username: dnburgess Post Number: 678 Registered: 1-2003 |
Clive Bunker is hugely underrated. His playing on Stand Up was a real eye opener for me - up there with Ginger Baker and Mitch Mitchell. | ||
| terrace
Junior Username: terrace Post Number: 37 Registered: 3-2008 |
David Garibaldi & Steve Gadd are two that I'd dream to play A set with. | ||
| jzstephan
Member Username: jzstephan Post Number: 58 Registered: 1-2012 |
Who played drums on the first King Crimson record? | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 239 Registered: 5-2011 |
Wasn't it Michael Giles?I think that's right | ||
| jzstephan
Member Username: jzstephan Post Number: 59 Registered: 1-2012 |
From Wiki,"Giles orchestrated much of the compositional structure of the first Crimson album In the Court of the Crimson King,[1] and his ability to weave challenging yet seamless tempo changes and subtle melodic deviations into a piece is not only evident in the compositions, but also in his highly elaborate and skilled drumming. He was most notably the first rock drummer to use more than one bass drum, so that he could play faster beats using those drums." | ||
| serialnumber12
Senior Member Username: serialnumber12 Post Number: 964 Registered: 12-2004 |
my favorite drummer?...my drum machine because it dont drink dont smoke dont party dont fart dont talk shit & it does exactly what the hell i tell it. | ||
| jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 2888 Registered: 6-2002 |
That reminds me of the old joke.... :-) Q: what is the difference between a drummer and a drum machine? A: You only need to PUNCH the instructions into the drum machine once. Jazzyvee | ||
| bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 1857 Registered: 9-2002 |
Chariot of the God, or, gee, drummers also get custom axes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2R7vf3uZVA Was surprised, I thought he climbed down into it on a rope ladder ! J o e y | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 240 Registered: 5-2011 |
Isn't amazing?Beautiful, the attention to detail is wonderful.My drummer friend Todd that I mentioned earlier,buys, restores, and sells kits.He has 35 kits in his inventory right now,everything from Ludwig Ringos,to Peter Criss Pearls (with concert toms!),the Ludwig clears that Bohnam played,Tamas,Sonors,Gretch,cocktail kits,plus a private collection of about 15 snares from the 40's to the present.He loves them all,big and small. It's funny how you'll see discussion amoung musicians about "all you need".I've seen Rush 4 times and every concert vid they have.Every part of his kit is used.True not everyone can tell the difference between a 22" ride and a24" ride(I love big rides)but Neil can,and that's what he hears in his head where the music happens. I've also seen guys playing cocktail kits(in rock music) that FILLED the room. There is now right or wrong; 4st,5st,6st....big kit,little kit.....I love them all! (This is not a comment on anyones post,I just got caught up in some of the comments on allthese Youtube vids) | ||
| hieronymous
Senior Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 1113 Registered: 1-2005 |
Here's a nice set of Vistalites at my buddy's studio:  | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 241 Registered: 5-2011 |
That's beautiful! Todd has a blue,and a red he's working on.He'd love this one.=) | ||
| hieronymous
Senior Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 1114 Registered: 1-2005 |
Does your friend do the drum restoration for a living or for a hobby? Either way, sounds like fun! | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 242 Registered: 5-2011 |
Both actually! On a different note,I'm away from the computer.Could you post Gavin Harrison "Cymbals" from youtube?He is so good.Aside from Porqupine Tree he also played with King Crimson(and many others). He' the first new to me drummer to really stand out. Thanks Harry! | ||
| hieronymous
Senior Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 1115 Registered: 1-2005 |
This one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLhQxBMay4c | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 243 Registered: 5-2011 |
Perfect! Ya don't even need a kit! Thanks again Harry. | ||
| murray
Intermediate Member Username: murray Post Number: 119 Registered: 7-2007 |
How about Gilson Lavis with Jools Holland. Saw him again last night at Warwick Arts Centre UK. He is 60 in June! and he and the band were outstanding and especially Louise Marshall, vocalist. 2 hour non-stop show. | ||
| 811952
Senior Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 2213 Registered: 10-2003 |
Tough question, really, since there are so many.. Stewart Copeland Bill Bruford John Weathers I think we'd have fun. Or at least I think *I'd* have fun. ;) John | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 10686 Registered: 5-2002 |
Sam; the Zawinul video was wonderful; and the McLaughlin piece superb! Thanks; they made for a very nice afternoon interlude. | ||
| pace
Senior Member Username: pace Post Number: 847 Registered: 4-2004 |
ELVIN JONES....... Anyone?!?!?!? | ||
| oddmetersam
Intermediate Member Username: oddmetersam Post Number: 193 Registered: 7-2008 |
Hey, Dave! I'm glad you liked that stuff. It would have been cool to have had you at the Nor Cal gathering. Maybe next year? -Sam | ||
| dnburgess
Senior Member Username: dnburgess Post Number: 679 Registered: 1-2003 |
The drummer on the current season of American Idol is awesome. Anyone know his name / background? | ||
| 5sicks
Junior Username: 5sicks Post Number: 35 Registered: 8-2010 |
I don't believe nobody mentioned John Bonham. I'd drag my sack through a mile of broken light bulbs to jam with him. | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 10687 Registered: 5-2002 |
Sam; they won't let me take my rig on the plane as carry on luggage.  | ||
| jacko
Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 3174 Registered: 10-2002 |
If we're allowing Ghosts I'd go for either Carlos Vega or Keith Moon. Wildly different players but I bet jamming with them would have been fun. Incidentally the UK olympics committee apparently approached the WHO's management to see if Keith would be available to play at this year's opening ceremony. graeme | ||
| darkstar01
Senior Member Username: darkstar01 Post Number: 408 Registered: 6-2005 |
am i seriously the only one who's listened to dave king? i can't think of many drummers even in the same league. except for eric harland.... | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 5149 Registered: 7-2004 |
Levon Helm. Bill, tgo | ||
| oddmetersam
Intermediate Member Username: oddmetersam Post Number: 194 Registered: 7-2008 |
Dave, drop-ship your rig to my home address beforehand. I'm in Oakland, close to the Canyon gathering location. I promise to take good care of your rig until you get here... | ||
| bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 1859 Registered: 9-2002 |
Karl, your post about vintage kits really set me remembering: Played once with a guy who had a rosewood set of Sonors (back in the 80's when they got a lot of mileage as Steve Smith was using them with Journey, a terrific drummer), they sounded amazing. Of course back in the day, nobody ran double heads. Drum 'fashion' comes and goes just like guitars. They always sounded like phone books, just never got that resonance you get with both rims/heads, and tuning both ends separated the men from the boys. I always remember those open kick drums (26's !), usually with a gnarly looking pillow in the bottom with a Shure, or better yet on of the old AKG's that looked like an electric razor, what a kick mic ! Yellow kevlar snare heads ! I played with a guy that BROKE one, my ear is still ringing on that side. Remo pinstripes. Joe Morello sticks. Guys would come in the music store and r-o-l-l them across the counter to get straight ones, sigh . . . Ghost pedals. After I came to Nashville, I became friends with Willie Cantu, who played with Buck Owens for forever (all of his hits, as well as the Carnegie Hall set, and amazingly a fabulous straight Jazz drummer). Willie still has and uses his Rogers kits from the days when Leo Fender let Buck and his boys have anything they wanted. His favorite snare is two Rogers metal snares: Two shells, the top one with the top head, and the bottom on with the head and snare strainer on the bottom, joined in the middle with lugs so there's a 'vent' all the way around between the two: Magic, in his hands. I remember when the market began to swing away from Ludwig and Rogers, to TAMA and DW and I remember what a big deal when Yamaha rolled out the Recording Custom kits. Remember those floor toms that had the detuning pedal like tympani? We were running late for a gig, so I set up the drummer's kit as he was gonna get there just in time to sit down and blow. He had a Ludwig OctaPlus, one of those giant double kick kits with 2 floor, and SIX flying toms. Plus this was before racks, so there were LOTS of stands. I knew the setup (I thought!) and when he walked in, he was thrilled . . . . until half-way throught the first verse of the first tune in the set: He was 6'6", and had arms like Mr. Fantastic. I'd set it up where the reach felt fine for ME without knowing it was WAY too close for him! We got it stretched out for him, and I learned a lesson ! BTW, remember the VistaLites WITH lights in them ? J o e y | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 249 Registered: 5-2011 |
Wow,talk about memories.And your story about setting up? Totally relate.Funny how it always seems the bass players are the ones who always end up helping the drummers set up....... | ||
| cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member Username: cozmik_cowboy Post Number: 1214 Registered: 10-2006 |
When I worked for Big Twist & the Mellow Fellows, Willies Hayes was the drummer; he played a blue Vistalite kit. Being a fan of things like the aforementioned rosewood Sonors, I was always amazed how good they sounded - especially since one ride tom was held together with duct tape! Peter | ||
| bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 1860 Registered: 9-2002 |
I always seemed to be the set-up guy: I played for years with a brother-in-law who was a fabulous pedal steel player. Over time, by helping him, I learned how they come out of the case, and the drill to put them back in the case (releasing the pedal bar from the legs, undoing the rods, etc.). So I went to a Steel Guitar show in Chattanooga and our good friend Doug Jernigan was playing. Afterwards, he was mobbed for signing his CD's, advice, etc. So while he's tied up, I look over and there's his steel (double-neck Zum, 10 pedals, six knee levers, and two lifts, sheesh!), in front of his open, empty case. So . . . . I packed it for him, but left the lid up. Eventually he turns and comes over, stops, and says,'WHO packed my steel?' I replied that I had, and he says,'Oh yeah, you've been packing Junior's, haven't you?' 'Yes, Sir !' He says, 'So you put the legs in rubber-end first?' 'Sure did.' He got a big grin, latched the case, and bought me dinner ! J o e y | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 250 Registered: 5-2011 |
Pretty cool.I think the most I ever got was a big gulp. | ||
| peoplechipper
Advanced Member Username: peoplechipper Post Number: 280 Registered: 2-2009 |
I had a drummer who had a vintage tricolour Ludwig vistalite kit (red,orange,yellow) it was so cool and sounded great; who knew plexiglass was good for drums...in that band I became the master of amp Tetris;how to get all that gear in a minivan...tony | ||
| cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member Username: cozmik_cowboy Post Number: 1217 Registered: 10-2006 |
A true art, Tony. With that same band, we filled a 24' truck - and I do mean high and tight - but it wasn't reliable enough for out of town. One time we (the road crew) went to pick up a rental for a road trip, & discovered the road manager had reserved an 18' unit. We, of course called him to bitch; he said "Tough sh*t, deal with it; I'm not spending more". Yes, we fit 24' of gear into 18' of truck. And no, our thoughts about him were not "Gee, I'm glad he's so sure we're that good!" Peter | ||
| peoplechipper
Advanced Member Username: peoplechipper Post Number: 282 Registered: 2-2009 |
yes, it is an art, and I'm sure your real thoughts about the road manager can't be repeated here! Tony | ||
| paulman
Senior Member Username: paulman Post Number: 450 Registered: 2-2005 |
George Hurley, a bit obscure but his style always inspired me. | ||
| darkstar01
Senior Member Username: darkstar01 Post Number: 409 Registered: 6-2005 |
George Hurley is awesome. minutemen in general are pretty inspirational. | ||
| pauldo
Senior Member Username: pauldo Post Number: 821 Registered: 6-2006 |
oh yes! George Hurley - and fIREHOSE! :-D I recently bought lowFLOWs: The Columbia Anthology (‘91-‘93) - re-mastered nicely and a few added bonus live and instrumental tracks. Good stuff. | ||
| pauldo
Senior Member Username: pauldo Post Number: 822 Registered: 6-2006 |
Matt Abts! Gov't Mule | ||
| pauldo
Senior Member Username: pauldo Post Number: 823 Registered: 6-2006 |
oops - double post :-\ (Message edited by pauldo on May 27, 2012) | ||
| wishbass
Advanced Member Username: wishbass Post Number: 265 Registered: 5-2011 |
David Grohl, and Johnny "Vatos" Hernandez.As for Percussionists.....Rodney Winston, better known as Burning Spear,just for the pure fun of it |
