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davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 970
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 4:29 am:   Edit Post

I've taken to placing my equipment racks on a milk crate rather than on top of my speaker cabs in order to elimate resonate vibration. However, a folding stand of some sort would be preferable to the milk crate. The Quil-Lok WS-540 looks ideal:
http://www.quiklok.com/search_list.taf?_function=detail&Layout_0_uid1=33189
It folds down to a small, light-weight, and easily stowed size. It is very sturdy and very adustable; and it holds a lot of weight. However, the price is a bit hefty; $80 is the best price I have found so far. I've tried searching for other ideas, but haven't found anything yet. I thought perhaps some of you might be using stands for your equipment racks, or have some suggestions.

(Message edited by davehouck on November 06, 2004)
wideload
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Username: wideload

Post Number: 66
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post

Have you considered an amp stand? I have a Peavey slanted stand that would hold a rack, and at a face-up slant that would be easy to see and adjust your settings, and I think it was about $30. It holds an 80 lb. amp OK, a rack should be no problem.

Larry
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 360
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post

I think $80 is reasonable for a stand that looks good (Professional) and can hold 300 pounds. Normally, I would just bring another rack and stack em. However, this looks pretty good and I am now thinking about getting one of these. Hey thanks Dave.
shellfish
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Username: shellfish

Post Number: 8
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post

Often I use an amp stand like this: http://www.musik-produktiv.de/shop2/shop04.asp/artnr/3046002/sid/!18121995/quelle/listen (sorry, HP in german), turned 180° so that the bottom of case fits on the longer arms.
Not bad since I have to change all power amp valves less frequently but always have to care about the high centre of gravity...
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 980
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post

Nigel, your welcome! <g> And I agree, I think it is indeed reasonable. I just have a problem parting with that much cash. So I thought I should make an effort to see if there was a less costly alternative.

Larry and Kai; I should have been more specific. I have two racks; a six space rack sitting on top of a four space rack. I had not given much thought to a slanted stand; but now that you've mentioned it, I've looked at a few of them a little more closely. The top rack is not quite as deep as the bottom rack, so it doesn't make a straight line; and it's not entirely clear where the weight of the racks would be resting against the back arms of the stand. At too much of a slant, this would seem to be potentially unstable. If it were just one rack, it would probably be ok; but with the two, it's hard to get a good idea of how well it would work. Together, the two racks currently weigh about 75 pounds.
bkbass
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Username: bkbass

Post Number: 81
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 4:50 am:   Edit Post

Warning!Warning!Danger Will Robinson!The tiltback stand normally used for combo amps is NOT a good choice.Most power amps etc.have their transformers and other componenets with the most weight mounted close to the front panel to take advantage of the strength and ridgity of the front rack panel.So even though the total weight of your components is shifted towards the rear most of the weight is still in the front hanging in mid air.I wouldn't use something that wasn't designed for any thing other than it's intended purpose.
kmh364
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Username: kmh364

Post Number: 669
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 5:42 am:   Edit Post

Das ist stimpt gennau! Good point, Barry! The problem is, what to use? I don't think anyone makes a stand for the exact purpose stated.

Maybe one of those tubular tri-pod speaker stands? they hold a lot of weight (the better ones) and you could mount the receiver on the bottom of the cab.

I was also thinking of those Ultimate Support (USS) keyboard bench seats. They're black tubular Aluminum, are foldable, and they are height abjustable. Take the bench off and substitute the rack. If the thing'll hold my lard *ss, it'll hold a rack.

Just my two cents.

I have an old tubular galvanized tri-pod style combo amp stand that would be perfect. It folds and has a screw-in receiver that could be mounted on the bottom of the amp. Right now, the receiver is bolted to a home-made slab of three 1"-thick face-jointed MDF boards and covered in laminate(formica) which the amp sits on like a table. The stand originally came with a single black-painted 3/4" or 1" MDF board with well-nuts holding the receiver on and as soon as I put the amp on it, it started to bend, LOL! If this stand will hold my old '79 Fender Silverface Twin Reverb (just try picking that thing up to chest height, LOL!), it'll hold anything. It just needs to be pickled and painted black (galvanized steel is dull silver). Problem is, I bought it new over 20yrs. ago, and I don't think it's being made anymore (can't remember the name brand either).

Dave: That Quik-lok seems to be your best option. I would just make sure you put something on either the stand or the cases (or both) to make them non-slip as you don't wanna have your racks slide off 'em and fall.
shellfish
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Username: shellfish

Post Number: 10
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 6:30 am:   Edit Post

Yes, sorry... das stimmt really genau!
Should have known earlier about the ten space rack. Stupid idea... I only have a four what fits.
In this case that Quik-lok is indeed the best option.
bracheen
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Username: bracheen

Post Number: 620
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 6:54 am:   Edit Post

Dave have you considered something dual purpose? Some type of tote that can carry things like cables, extra strings & batteries, etc. that would also serve as a rack stand?

Sam
davehouck
Senior Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 988
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post

Sam; yes I have thought about it. And of course one of the important considerations when it comes to my bass rig is to keep the number of trips back and forth to the car to a minimum. I already carry a large tote bag full of cables, tools, strings, charts, etc.; and that bag works very well. So right now, the only thing not in that bag is my guitar stand (or stands if I'm taking more than one bass). The extended milk crate (wire basket) that the racks are sitting in presently can carry stuff if needed; so it is dual purpose. So, yes, I should at least consider a larger light weight yet strong storage container with flat ends and recessed handles.

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