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wideload
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Username: wideload

Post Number: 74
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post

Listening to XM's Christmas channel, I noticed a surprising number of songs with annoying bass lines. I'm guessing this is from an arranger who is more interested in "jazzing up" an old chestnut than in what sounds good.
I assume that these gems are recorded quickly with hired guns who are revered for their ability to read and get it right on the first take. How do those of you who are so capable feel about written lines that are even less than inspired, but annoying? Do you suggest a different tack? How often to arrangers embrace a well thought out change to their pieces? Guess I'm just curious, since I've only played that role once, long ago.

Larry
richbass939
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Username: richbass939

Post Number: 53
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post

Larry,
For me also, it's been quite a while since I've done much session work. What I remember is that it varies greatly.
On some sessions, people want you to play exactly what they have written, for a variety of reasons. One, they're just slapping something together. They want it to be played correctly but they're not that concerned about creativity. Two, they would like to have the different session players be creative but they don't have/take the time to explain what the other parts will be doing. For example the bass may play a wonderful line but it steps on some other part that the bassist doesn't know will be there because it is added later. The bottom line for many of us is, if we have a disagreement with the boss, it usually ends up going the boss' way. I'm sure we all have some funny stories that didn't seem so funny at the time.
I always liked the ones where you had the time to know basically what everyone else was going to do. You were told what kind of feel they wanted the song to have and the chord changes. If there was a certain riff they wanted somewhere then you were given a real chart. I like to think that most bassists could come up with a better bass line than would be on the chart. Also sometimes when you really lock in with a good drummer and get a cool groove going things can happen that you might not get by reading a chart.
To be fair, I'm sure there are arrangers/producers out there who can dream up parts and write charts that we couldn't top.
Also to be fair, I have listened to stuff that I came up with and recorded and I have said, red-faced "What was I thinking?" It goes both ways.
Rich

(Message edited by richbass939 on December 22, 2004)

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