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jazzyvee
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Post Number: 3392
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post


jazzyvee
sonicus
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Post Number: 2827
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 4:58 pm:   Edit Post

Very interesting Jazzyvee !

Who is the builder may I ask ?
811952
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Post Number: 2294
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Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 5:24 pm:   Edit Post

I like that concept quite a lot.
jazzyvee
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Post Number: 3393
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Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 5:28 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry but your guess would be better than mine I saw it when I was browsing a bass page on Facebook but it didn't name the builder.

Jazzyvee
jagerphan84
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Post Number: 311
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Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 6:23 pm:   Edit Post

It's made by Spalt.
pauldo
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Post Number: 946
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Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 7:02 pm:   Edit Post

Innovative!
Be fun to test ride it.
bigredbass
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Post Number: 1971
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 9:36 pm:   Edit Post

Of course, I look forward to the discussions in the Spalt Forum regarding which 'tonewood' is best for fabricating the little pickup arm for that 'FAT' sound, if it wouldn't sound better if it was hinged on the other side of the body, and 'if I put a Seymour Quarter-Pound Jazz in it instead of that Bart, will it void my warranty?'

J o e y
mario_farufyno
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Post Number: 899
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 4:51 am:   Edit Post

Will the quarter pound be long enough to reach all strings? This looks like a 6 (or more) string PU and its magnet is probably a bar instead of rods like regular jazz PUs...
mario_farufyno
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Post Number: 901
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 5:01 am:   Edit Post

Over the Top?

Look at this "The Beast" hybrid guitar/bass, can't say a thing on its look, but it is certainly bold.
mario_farufyno
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Post Number: 902
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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 5:01 am:   Edit Post

Over the Top?

Look at this "The Beast" hybrid guitar/bass, can't say a thing on its look, but it is certainly bold.

http://www.spaltinstruments.com/instruments/custom-work-624-conventional/other/
mario_farufyno
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Post Number: 903
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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 5:16 am:   Edit Post

There is something odd on building a top guitar to just look like a (s)crap one, but their totem instruments have a provocative and distinct look, no doubt about it. Very artistic, loved that danger/hazardous guitar

http://www.spaltinstruments.com/instruments/totem-resintops/2006/#
sonicus
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Post Number: 2828
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 4:02 pm:   Edit Post

Ok , I checked out "The Beast" LOL___

SO what is a SUSTAINIAC ? (my spell check software does not like it )LOL ,, Tell me tell me if you think you know. Is it HIP ,,,,,,, may be even a HIP TRIP ? A variation of a compressor?
cozmik_cowboy
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Post Number: 1439
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 8:30 pm:   Edit Post

Apparently, the Sustainiac is the pick-up with the bar pole pieces. Blah blah, woof woof.....

Peter
jcdlc72
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Post Number: 232
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 9:17 pm:   Edit Post

I remember a Sustainiac ad on a Guitar Player mag flexi-disc like... 25 or 26 years ago :P Some sort of electromechanical device that "read" the note you' re playing and provided a vibration in equivalent frequency that made the string keep going... or something like that.

Back then it seemed hip.. maybe hipper than hip, but... what is hip? :P
oddmetersam
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Post Number: 266
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 5:39 am:   Edit Post

My bandmate in Sizemo, Micah Ball, has a Sustainiac that he so far only uses in our subterranean studio. Yes, it has a clamp that fits on the end of the headstock and it's connected by a cord to a floor unit. I admit I haven't checked it out up close because he's got so much stuff in his arsenal that between him and our madcap drummer I've got my own hands full.

I do know that when the thing is activated it interacts with vibrations emanating from the guitar and somehow amplifies/excites things so that you can have virtually infinite sustain. With all the other stuff he goes through the net result sounds alternately like a MOOG, a theremin, an Indian tampura drone and an electric banjo on steroids...if any of that makes any sense.

No, we've yet to record any music with that thing....
sonicus
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Post Number: 2829
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 4:41 pm:   Edit Post

Ok ,Thanks to Peter, Juan & Sam now I am hipper in my understanding of the Sustainiac . Kind of a sympathetic vibration inducing device it seems.
pauldo
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Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 4:46 pm:   Edit Post

I'm spending big bucks on my wardrobe and starting to let my hair grow . . .
dfung60
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Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 7:00 pm:   Edit Post

The Sustainiac is really cool. They have two different models that work on a similar principle.

The original model (from the early 90's) has a floor box that looks like a footpedal and is actually a small power amp. You feed it the signal from your guitar, but instead of the output going to a speaker, it goes to a vibrating transducer that you attach to the headstock of your guitar. When you play the guitar is literally vibrates the guitar (hard!) giving you physical feedback. You get the same sort of sound as if you were playing super-loud or if you touch your headstock to your amp - infinite sustain or feedback. You can control the amount and harmonics to the transducer from the floor box. It can come in gently or leap into octave sustain instantly. It's really cool.

The design of the original Sustainiac doesn't lend itself well to playing live since you have to have a wire running to the headstock of your guitar. So, they created a newer model which replaces your neck pickup with a string drive coil. There's an amp onboard your guitar which outputs it's signal into the drive coil, which vibrates the string. Again, you can get different levels of sustain effect, and you can do it while running around on stage. This model only vibrates the string, so it's not quite like the original model where the entire guitar starts vibrating in your hands.

The Sustainiac really does it's thing well. Since it's using your guitar sound to drive the strings, it will play the notes you play, but doesn't try to drive anything else. It's much more natural sounding and finely controllable than a regular effects box.

There are a couple of interesting related devices. If you've ever seen an eBow, this is doing a similar function. The eBow has a vibrating magnetic field that causes the string to vibrate without you picking it. The eBow has a different kind of sound since it doesn't know what you're playing - the vibrating magnetic field is fixed in frequency, but it will cause the note you finger to play in any case.

Recently, Moog (the synth people) starting selling a very unusual guitar that does something similar to the Sustainiac. That guitar also has a magnetic drive coil that can vibrate the string, using the guitar output as it's input, so it works like the newer Sustainiac. But they added a full range of tone and envelope processing to the string driver. So it can do some really crazy things like drive the string in opposite polarity to what you play - this has the effect of magnetically muting the string, so you can get picked sounds like a harpsichord or a thumpy bass. You can control how quickly the effect comes in to create a lot of very unusual tones that would be very hard to create on a regular instrument.

David Fung
mario_farufyno
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Post Number: 904
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Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 7:22 pm:   Edit Post

I must hear your band now, Samuel
lidon2001
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Post Number: 506
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 8:18 pm:   Edit Post

Steve Vai's "tongue" trick is all Sustainiac and whammy bar; tongue is just for show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65AZQ1H57f8

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