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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 3766
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 5:40 am:   Edit Post

I'm restoring a self build of a strat based guitar that I originally made as a fretless guitar around 1982.
I made the body but bought a neck and removed the frets. It was a good guitar but over the years I have bought a vigier surfretter fretless guitar so this old one just needs a new neck to finish off the project. I have been thinking of a carbon graphite neck just for something different. But don't know much about what they do for sound or playability or weight even.
I've seen a nice fretted strat replacement neck made by Moses
which look fine but I don't see any holes for bolting the neck to. Would I be correct in assuming that i would need specialist drills and screws to drill and secure the neck to the body?

Also I don't see any truss rod adjustment so I presume that is not a problem for those necks.

Senior Member
Username: lidon2001

Post Number: 526
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 7:02 am:   Edit Post

From their website:

2) Necks are supplied with heels that are not drilled for mounting. All necks sold by Moses Carbon Graphite USA are sold and supplied with a 4-hole self-tapping brass threaded insert/stainless steel machine screw heel mount kit. Cost of additional mount kits is $5.00 USD.

Insert Instructions

(Message edited by lidon2001 on December 15, 2013)
Senior Member
Username: gtrguy

Post Number: 655
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post

I had a BlackKnife for a while with a graphite neck and it sounded great and had very even response all across the fretboard. I just did not like the bridge on it that stuck up a bit so I sold it. The only thing I noticed was that the neck would get colder than wood if it was not warm out. In every other way it was a great guitar.
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 2098
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, December 16, 2013 - 9:52 pm:   Edit Post

JV, virtually all replacement bolt necks (like this Moses, or Warmoth, etc.) have undrilled heels: There's just no way to know the exact pattern of whatever guitar they'll end up on, so you use the body's neck holes as the pattern to drill the new neck.

Interestingly, Moses specs regular HSS drill bits (typically the same thing most hardware stores sell, nothing special). If you do this, it might not be a bad idea to take it to a trusted guitar tech, as this is one of those 'measure twice, cut once' situations.

Do this wrong and the strings will be off to one side or the other, and fixing that ain't easy: You just can't glue dowel rods in the wrongly placed holes and start over in graphite as you could in a wood neck. I love Moses' warning that 'should you drill too deeply and the drill bit comes through the fingerboard (!), your warranty is void'. Really . . . . . .

I've only played Steinbergers and Modulus axes that were graphite, and the stuff is so stiff and the resulting resonance is at such high frequencies, they often play the same all the way up the neck, no dead spots, no random wood resonances like you see on a lot of basses with that often dead/muted B on the D string up the neck.

J o e y
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 1676
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 6:57 pm:   Edit Post

I'll also say that the Moses basses I've played had a very different feel and tone than the Modulus/Steinberger/Zon and other graphite basses I've played. They were more like a wood neck and didn't really have the same sustain and zing that the others have. It might be different for the guitar necks.
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 1524
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 9:06 pm:   Edit Post

I had a super strat put together by Phil. Moses neck w/ wizard profile, Alembic ssh pups and guts, compensated nut, wilkenson trem, sperzels. Pricey on the labor but the components were expensive. I wholly recommend it. Stable, and easy to play.
Senior Member
Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1518
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 24, 2013 - 3:52 am:   Edit Post

I'll echo what Edwin said.
My Moses guitar neck has more of a scooped/hollow sound when compared to the Status or Modulus necks I have.

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