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jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 4120
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 5:30 am:   Edit Post

File Locking Error
One of the files required to complete this operation has been locked by another process. Please wait 5 seconds and then submit your request again.
[users.txt]

Please contact Mica Wickersham Thomas if this problem persists.
slawie
Senior Member
Username: slawie

Post Number: 648
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 6:07 am:   Edit Post

Right there with you Jazzy
I get it almost every time
slawie
growlypants
Member
Username: growlypants

Post Number: 92
Registered: 3-2011
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 6:48 am:   Edit Post

Yea, me too. With this antiquated computer I use, plus the antiquated software (Windows XP) I just grin and bare it. Usually another try suffices...
zomnius
New
Username: zomnius

Post Number: 7
Registered: 9-2013
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 7:24 am:   Edit Post

a lot. just wait a while before sending the next message. otherwise you het that message..
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3514
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 8:12 am:   Edit Post

I get is as well, but,__ what I have learned in this lifetime is :
"Don't sweat the small stuff"___ In this case especially ,my love for the culture of the Alembic Club is the more important aspect and this software idiosyncrasy just " The small stuff".

I really have to write that the way that the threads allow consecutive cohesion in this system is superior to some other internet blog style systems that I participate in . So there is a good and a bad . I think that in this case the good out weighs the bad .:-)
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5793
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 9:08 am:   Edit Post

I get it quite often,too. Even when I get it, I open another window and double check to see if my post posted or not. At least half the time, it actually posted in spite of the error message. (I've learned to do this after numerous double posts caused by this anomaly). I'm regularly on two other forums (Porsche 968 and Triumph). Neither has this problem and both post MUCH faster than this one. Also, the search function on the others works much faster. When I need to search the Alembic forum, I use Google advanced search instead of the forum search feature. Much faster.

BUT ... ON THE OTHER HAND .. the content and population of this forum makes it all worth it.

Bill, tgo
cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 1729
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post

Almost always; usually have to exit the site & come back to get past it.

Peter
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 2023
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post

+1 what Bill said.

Keith
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 11416
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 4:12 pm:   Edit Post

With regard to the file locking error messages, yes, they have been increasing in frequency. Mica and Ron are working on the issue, and they think there should be a noticeable improvement by the end of this month. The shop is also in the process of moving to a new internet service provider, which should also result in an improvement of the file locking error issue. That switchover should happen within 30 days or so. So, we hope you will be noticing significant improvement fairly soon.

And personally, I would like to add that I agree with the other sentiments previously expressed; that being able to participate in and be a part of this community is well worth these little quirks of our software platform.

Thanks!!
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 2209
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 9:55 pm:   Edit Post

I get them maybe 25% of the time. I give it a minute and usually it'll go thru the second try.

I'm old enough to reserve aggravation for much larger inconveniences. Glad to be here, no big deal to re-submit occasionally.

I'd be even more glad vis-ā-vis this forum if it were easier to submit larger pictures, if I were allowed a suggestion.

J o e y
peoplechipper
Senior Member
Username: peoplechipper

Post Number: 448
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post

I get these from time to time but they always resolve quickly...I am a computer retard so I don't worry about it all and try not to go all 'HULK SMASH' on things...I'm stupid on photos so if someone could tell me how to post them here I could post my collection AND start that bicycle thread...Tony...funny that responding to this caused one of those errors...













(Message edited by peoplechipper on July 08, 2014)
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 4127
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post

Computer Programming is my day job so when I'm working I get to dealing with all kinds of error messages regularly. So for me when I'm using computers in my leisure time seeing similar messages when I visit web sites or from software I'm using on my computer becomes like a red flag to a bull. :-)

I do persevere because I enjoy the forum and I don't like losing to a computer... hahaha. But it's frustrating when you write a considered response to someone's thread here then blam....you get the error and you never know if you are going to loose that writing, Re-doing it is never the same.

When I'm doing a longish entry I tend to write my comments in a text file and paste it into the forum rather than type directly in the box so won't loose my entry.

I will wait patiently until the improvements happen.
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1264
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post

I get the error message almost every time I post, so I always highlight my post before submitting it & right click copy so if I loose it I will have it copied to the clipboard on my PC & can just paste it back on the post.
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3515
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 1:30 am:   Edit Post

Jazzyvee,
If computer programming and software is your vocation I can see why you would have a reaction to want to get to the bottom of the cause of the error message.

In the earlier versions of Protools from time to time there were the DAE error messages that used to be an obstacle to get the job done, but I learned how to steer clear of them. They were much worse in pre Mac OS X versions. My strong points have always been more as a hardware geek in both audio and computer and IT ( information technology) . Currently I have three old Apple Xserve servers with various external AVID 10,000 rpm SCSI hard drives configured in both raid level 0 and raid level 1.

I am about to connect a fiber optic host card to one of my servers as a fiber channel interface via an ATTO FIbrebridge 4500 that will also interface to an Apple Xserve raid array containing 14 750GB hard drives . With my SCSI arrays and the Apple Xserve Raid I will soon have close to 20 Terabytes of storage for doing analog to digital transfers. My hardware could be considered old by cutting edge of current standards but it is quite solid and functional (it also keeps the room warm) , but it has a larger footprint then the newest stuff and does not have the data speed throughput of newest standard . I love it because I got it really cheep from the " Big Fishes" in the industry when they often upgrade. Thats when us little fish show up for the offered morsels and tidbits.

Sorry about the long rant . Please don''t consider it a hi-jack ___ I was just relating ___ .

(Message edited by sonicus on July 09, 2014)
jcdlc72
Advanced Member
Username: jcdlc72

Post Number: 350
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 7:25 am:   Edit Post

I will (Gladly!) join the crowd in... "Solidarity". Not only I have in common with Jazzy the experience of having produced and hosted a radio show (it lasted five years), but also with Jazzy and Sonicus on the experience of having a computer-related day job (IT Programming and management for a large ISP around here). Also, that DAE error thing with ProTools buggered me for quite some time, and had to become a fine-tuning specialist in order to have my studio up and running whenever it is needed, instead of "wherever it feels like working". Nowadays IT day job is long behind (currently it is Music production, recording and gigging, teaching several chairs at an Audio school, and translating work), but it grows on you, or to be more precise it leaves a mark on you. Now the battle is with ProTools 10, and the wish for Avid and it subsidiaries to be more like Alembic (There, so it is not hijacking, Ha!) and for it to have Customers instead of Hostages. They have a lot to learn from our friends in the Mothership...
peoplechipper
Senior Member
Username: peoplechipper

Post Number: 449
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post

Wow, clearly there are many on here better with computers than me, and better bass players, but I'm a better Goldsmith and bike mechanic! NYAH(sticking tongue out...)...I dunno, just felt like pooping that in; I am so not a computer guy...Tony
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 2024
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 4:38 am:   Edit Post

I'm a retired software engineer. The file locking errors really don't bother me as I don't get them that often.

What does bother me is the general acceptance that it is ok to put out non or semi functional software and customers accept it. The prevailing view that ever shorter release cycles are needed no matter the current state of the product is ridiculous. The reality is the product takes just as long develop regardless of what the schedule says. The difference being the customers become the testers and have to suffer through problems that should have been caught and handled internally. Well time to get off my soap box and get the trailer prep'ed for this weekends trip.

Keith
jcdlc72
Advanced Member
Username: jcdlc72

Post Number: 351
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 5:57 am:   Edit Post

Iīm with Keith. Much too often the end users are the "end sufferers" instead, just because the software company decides a product HAS to be out on a certain date, and then try to fill the gaps with patches and updates, that could have been avoided with a little more time on the necessary research and proper development.

Open Software deserves an apart section, as long as it remains rooted and supported by the software community, within the conscious mindset of that it is intended to be "a work in progress", and as such, the users (be it developers or not) assume that any gaps or failures are a product of its own nature as a non-commercial product under constant development. What a shame some expensive commercial software developers (Avid, anyone?) think this is equally valid for leading edge industry standard software tools... (End of rant. Sorry ībout that...)
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3517
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post

I think Avid /Protools has often been tangled up in releasing updates , chasing compatibility issues with new Apple hardware and OS.

Since I am on the subject of hardware and software compatibility issues I am always trying to find out" what fits what" in both hardware and software. To be on track with the nature of this thread I became vary curious regarding the forum software that this thread directly is concerned with. That would be Discus Pro,
http://alembic.com/cgi-bin/alembic-club/discus.cgi?pg=credits.

I was quite interested in finding out what the OS and hardware requirements are to run Discus Pro, BUT this is where my search lead me ; http://www.discusware.com/
& http://www.discusware.com/pro

Next I found this;
http://www.dyncommunity.com/questions/28099/discusware.html

http://yowbooks.com/catalog/self-help/discus/

Therefore ; I think that I would like to send a wave of gratitude to the " Mother Ship", Mica , Ron and all involved to keep this forum in operation, considering that they are doing what they can with what they have got to work with. I think it is pretty good consider that they have to " Brain Storm " it on their own. And they are doing it for us ____ .

Wolf
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5796
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post

O.K. all of you software experts. Explain to me why the 25 year old wordperfect 5.1 for DOS is a far better program than wordprefect 12?

Bill, tgo
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5797
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post

O.K. all of you software experts. Explain to me why the 25 year old wordperfect 5.1 for DOS is a far better program than wordperfect 12?

Bill, tgo
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 2028
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 1:30 pm:   Edit Post

Because somewhere along the line someone decided that making something look pretty in a window was better than a product that was functional. They also seemed to like writing macros that would only be used once instead of typing a few extra words. I could also get really snarky and say something along the lines of this is what happens when you let academics who have never built a product in their life teach but that would exclude the folks at Xerox and Bill Gates. ;)

One thing I like about doing mainframe work is they still have green screen (or grey and black or other monochrome schemes) and a plain Jane editor meant for people to type programming code and job control language. I can still put more code out than many young'uns with their fancy shmancy PC/Unix editors.

One last thing is my experience in software as opposed to hardware engineering there seems to be a generational mentality that forgets most everything that is new now has been done before (i.e. Cloud is just the recent incarnation of timer share and service bureaus of the 60's).

Keith
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3518
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 2:05 pm:   Edit Post

Keith,
I remember back in the early 1980's when I worked for CBS Specialty Stores ( Pacific Stereo) using green monochrome screens on the Data General main frame system. I remember some particular aspects of that system when we did simultaneous inventories ; it really slowed down _____ .

My last green monochrome system using DOS commands and a large boot floppy was my old IBM 286. I think that had the 8088 motherboard.
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 2029
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 2:33 pm:   Edit Post

I don't consider Data General a mainframe. To me they were more of a minicomputer like the DEC PDP-11 family and IBM Series 1. I look at mainframes being things like the IBM 3xx/3xxx and clones, DEC 10 and Computer Data Corp machines.

Edit: Don't want to leave out Sperry/Univac and Burroughs from the mainframe list.

The nice thing about green screen, and I'm talking full screen mode here, is they utilize typing from the keyboard. Too many windowed apps require you to go from typing to the mouse and back to typing. To me that is counter intuitive. Likewise I find it much easier to type a couple of commands to repeat or copy some lines than to go off to the mouse, highlight the text I want, either use some keystrokes or use the mouse to pull down a text editing tab then go back to typing. From a work flow standpoint using a mouse is an interruption. And don't get me started on TABs with graphical editors ... :-) ... Just to show you my stubbornness (my Dear Wife's words not mine), I use Visual SlickEdit on my PC's however it is always in ISPF or XEDIT emulation mode whether it is for mainframe, Unix box or PC coding.

Keith

(Message edited by keith_h on July 10, 2014)
jcdlc72
Advanced Member
Username: jcdlc72

Post Number: 352
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2014 - 4:50 am:   Edit Post

Bill: Donīt ask me. My studio computer still runs in XP (and will do so for some time yet, thanks to Digidesignīs decision of making an otherwise all good interface -digi001- compatible with ASIO drivers for almost every nice software out there, except for any ProTools further than 6.4. Also, I have to set it up in the "no fancies" mode (My Computer//properties/advanced/get rid of any kind of visual fancies and stuff in order to make it run snappy). Still, a lot of nice recordings have been made with that technology and back in its day. Why cannot they be made nowadays with the same tools? In the end, I think itīs also a matter of what floats your boat, and your ability to use the tools. Iīve seen too many of the guys with the latest tools and tricks doing nothing, or even worse, BAD things with them.

Oh, and monochrome monitors? DEC? IBM 3xx? Data General? Shhhhh!!!! They will know our exact age!! Hahahaha!!!
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 2030
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2014 - 5:17 am:   Edit Post

"Oh, and monochrome monitors? DEC? IBM 3xx? Data General? Shhhhh!!!! They will know our exact age!! Hahahaha!!!"

More than once my kids have said I belong in a museum.

Keith
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3520
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2014 - 8:23 am:   Edit Post

Juan , yes the Digi001 was a great little DAW interface in the LE platform. I still keep 2 of them around for work that comes my way in that LE to 6.4 . I also have a full MIX 24 TDM system to 6.4 TDM.

The Data General was set up to accommodate 28 Pacific Stereo locations . It was my first experience with any computer. I was there from mid 1980 to late 1982. Originally I was hired to maintain and wire their audio demonstration interfaces. They kept me around working in various departments wearing many different hats until they declared bankruptcy. Then the big parent corp. CBS Inc. dissolved Pacific Stereo. I had fun working there, they even let me work in sales in the " High End Room" when I had no tech duties. The "High End Room" was the most coveted spot to be in . That's where the real stuff was ___ Lol !

(Message edited by sonicus on July 11, 2014)
jcdlc72
Advanced Member
Username: jcdlc72

Post Number: 353
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2014 - 3:31 pm:   Edit Post

So it is not just me regarding the DIGI001 preamps (Focusrite made!) and DAC/ADC circuitry as better, more musical, less harsh sounding than the 002 and 003 then?.

I bought a bigger interface for another machine (a bigger studio setup, in the countryside, away from my home in the capital city), an m-audio profire 2626, and although it can handle 26 simultaneous inputs and is able to work at a higher resolution than the 001, I find it less "awesome sounding" than my old 001 at 24/48. Go figure...
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3521
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2014 - 6:30 pm:   Edit Post

Juan , I agree with your first sentence .
Another Digidesign Protools LE format interface that I liked was the Mbox 2 Pro Firewire (24/69) .I have a friend who works for PBS ( Public Broadcasting Service) who took one around the world for on location recording on a laptop with an external hard drive. I did not care for their USB models . PCI card connection or firewire for me for that older computer recording stuff .

I have a friend who was a long time employee at Digidesign / Protools who was laid off right about the time that they made the transistion to Protools 9 Native.
From what I understand there were also ribbon cable problems with the 002. Mackie had the same type of ribbon cable failure problems for a while in a few of their products, that I have serviced but won't go into detail here and now as I do not want to hi jack.
edwin
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 1795
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2014 - 9:39 pm:   Edit Post

"The reality is the product takes just as long develop regardless of what the schedule says."- Sort of like our favorite basses? :-)

I hope you PT users have gotten a chance to use PT 11. It's been a life changer for me. Much more efficient (and even runs on my Mac Pro 1,1, which is not supposed to be the case as it only has a 32 bit EFI), and hangs and crashes a lot less. Plus, the faster than real time offline bounce is great for location guys like me that end up with 3 hour shows that need a rough mix. Tying up my computer for all that time was no fun.

I don't bother with Digi/Avid hardware any more. The 001 was pretty cool, and the 002R also worked out OK, but moving to Metric Halo was a revelation. The ULN-8 is simply head and shoulders about every Digi/Avid interface I've heard.

And yes, I do get the error message mentioned by the OP fairly often. But it's no big deal. Usually when I hit the go back key command, my post is still right there (and yes, I agree about the mouse being a distraction. I do like some of the gestural stuff with the trackpad, but much prefer typing as much as possible. It's amazing to watch really good engineers mix and edit in PT. I had the good fortune to work with a guy who is a PT developer and he just flew on the keyboard.).

OK, let's see what happens when I hit post!

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