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lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 6133
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2015 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post

I just finished putting together my new pedal board. I had been using a Voodoo Labs Ground Control and GCX switcher with my effects on a shelf. This BYOC Super8 Looper does everything the Voodoo Lab set up did, all in this little box!

Bill, tgo



davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 11851
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2015 - 8:13 am:   Edit Post

Having the power center on the bottom where it's out of the way is a good idea, and having the holes in the surface to keep the power cables and signal cables out of the way as well. Very tidy. And pretty amazing that the little box does everything a Ground Control and GCX did.
5a_quilt_top
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Post Number: 567
Registered: 6-2012
Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2015 - 8:17 am:   Edit Post

Nice!

Looks like you used George L's cables - ?

And what are you using for "muscle" to power up and project all of that tonal versatility?
5a_quilt_top
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Post Number: 568
Registered: 6-2012
Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2015 - 8:18 am:   Edit Post

Nice!

Looks like you used George L's cables - ?

And what are you using for "muscle" to power up and project all of that tonal versatility?
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 6134
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2015 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post

Yes, George L's. A PITA to put together but, once you have the connection right, AND if you don't have to move them, the George L's are great for the semi-permanent pedal board installation.

I've been on a GAS binge lately. My Carvin power amp (100 watts/channel stereo, and only 4 lbs.). should arrive today. I plan to pair it with an F-2B and a couple of 1x12's loaded with JBL K-120s so I have a stereo option.

Bill, tgo
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 4325
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2015 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post

I look forward to hear the compact stereo rig .

Wolf
peoplechipper
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Username: peoplechipper

Post Number: 612
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Friday, July 10, 2015 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post

I like making pedalboards! I've bought several pedals since putting my last guitar pedalboard together, so I may actually make two guitar 'boards, so I can choose which sounds I need...my bass pedalboard has had one change in almost ten years; removed two pedals and put a Union Tube & Transistor Sub Buzz in that place; all works flawlessly...
jalevinemd
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Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 1024
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2015 - 3:32 pm:   Edit Post

Bill,

Seems you and I have gone in completely separate directions with our pedalboards. I used to play through this:



Although it has most of the effects I normally would require, it's a fairly large/heavy board and doesn't have the occasional oddball effect that I might suddenly need - envelope filter, rotary drum, pitch shifter, etc...Plus, there's a lot of wiring and all effects are screwed directly into the board, so I can't really troubleshoot anything in a timely fashion if I had a problem at rehearsal or a gig. Plus I was tired of carrying a guitar AND a big pedalboard case.

The group that I've been playing with covers tunes from all over the musical map and I didn't want to have to bring along extra pedals in addition to this behemoth. So I dramatically downsized to this:



The drive pedals include an Xotic SL Drive which delivers amazing Marshall-like distortion. The other two are a Klon-clone and TubeScreamer-like pedal made by a friend of mine. I like cascading one into the other for varying levels of overdrive. The Eventide H9 has every effect imaginable (all very high quality). Problem is that you can only have one effect at a time engaged and changing between effects involves using the scroll wheel which isn't super convenient.

So I changed gears completely and bought one of these ver recently to dip my foot in the digital multi-effect processor/amp modeling pool:



I know a lot of people's knee-jerk reaction to the digital units is that they all sound like overly processed and sterile pieces of crap. I was one of those people. Truth of the matter is that these things have come a LONG way since their introduction. So long as you're willing to spend the time crafting the tones you want, the results are pretty amazing. Plus, being able to construct presets for individual songs, allows a ton of flexibility which is easy to control. The amp/cab/mic modeling doesn't sound so great if you're using an amp without an effects loop (which mine don't have). So I pretty much just use it to give me unlimited stomp box options.

Since I was so impressed with the POD HD500X but don't use any of the amp/cab modeling, I put in an order for one of these:



The effects quality supposedly eclipses the POD. It should be arriving early this week. They are being released in very limited numbers right now in a wait-list fashion. So if I don't find that the price tag justifies keeping it over the POD, I should be able to sell it for what I paid.

Sorry for the long winded post but we get so few threads on pedalboards...and I love 'em!

(Message edited by jalevinemd on July 12, 2015)
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 6147
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2015 - 4:34 pm:   Edit Post

The pedal board I used is a Temple Audio board. The pedal mounting system is quite ingenious. They sell mounting plates that stick to the bottom of the pedal and mount to the board with one thumb screw. Taking pedals on and off the board is the easiest I've ever seen. And the aluminum grate is both light weight and allows for all the wiring to go below for a very clean look (something that I know is very important to you).

The BYOC Super8 looper has four banks of eight programs each, for a total of 32 separate programs, so one can set a different set of effects for different songs. I like having access to lots of different sounds as I never know in advance what I might want to use during long improvisational jams.

The board is 16.5" x 28", weighs less than five lbs. (without pedals) and has a good quality carry bag. It's much easier to move than my old system which consisted of a rack case with a pull out draw for the pedals and a VoodooLab GCX rack-mounted switcher and a VoodooLab Ground Control Pro floor unit.

A lot of pro bands are using the Fractal unit these days. If that doesn't float your boat, you can always call Pete Cornish next. I think he only charges around $10K. lol

Bill, tgo
jalevinemd
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Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 1025
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2015 - 7:07 pm:   Edit Post

Bill,

The Temple Audio boards really are a nice piece of engineering. I wanted a really small one for travel but they couldn't do the custom size I needed. The anchoring system is a great concept. Actually thought of ordering some of the pads and retrofitting them onto a board I was going to build, but I went the digital way instead.

Maybe you remember the post I did several years ago about contacting Pete Cornish. Your 10 grand isn't too far off the mark. As I recall he was quoting between $12-15,000 to build the board I wanted...and I had to supply all the pedals!
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 2065
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2015 - 6:19 pm:   Edit Post

I'm very curious about the FX8. I've been tempted by the AxeFX, but don't need all the modeling. Let me know how you like it. One thing I'm specifically curious about is if the delays and reverbs will spillover when going into bypass and changing patches. It was the deal killer for the Eventide Eclipse for me.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 11864
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 4:00 pm:   Edit Post

The Fractal stuff does look nice.
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 1904
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post

Back when I was a young roadie, in a business where, of course, common practice is to just strew wires any which where, I was known for going through a roll of tape every show; nothing loose or out of place anywhere.
Bill & Jonathon, I love the way you build boards!!!!

Peter (formerly aka Capt. Ducttape)
jalevinemd
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Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 1028
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2015 - 8:01 am:   Edit Post

Yeah...I'm kind of an OCD f*cker when it comes to my boards. All cables are routed underneath and all pedals screwed directly to the surface. No velcro.
jalevinemd
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Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 1029
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2015 - 8:17 am:   Edit Post

Edwin...sorry for the delayed response. I honestly had no idea what you meant by "Spillover". I still don't have a good handle on what it is but there is a guy over on the Fractal Forum who's ripping pissed about the apparent lack of it on the FX8. Here's the link to the thread. Maybe you'll understand what he's talking about.

Spillover Etc...
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 11871
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2015 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post

I think what they are talking about with spillover is, for instance, when at the end of a passage you play and hold a note with reverb and delay. While you're holding the note, you use your foot to prepare for the next passage which uses a different group of effects and settings. You want to go ahead and press the switch to make the changes, but you also want the reverb and delay from the previous setting to continue while you're still holding the note.

That's my guess. I don't use my setup anywhere near what it's capable of doing, although I would like to. But every time I sit down to practice, I'm usually focused on just learning how to put my fingers on the right strings and in the right frets cleanly.

In glancing at the Fractal stuff, one thing that is enticing for me is the ability to set it up with your computer using USB. In theory, that should make the programming a lot easier and quicker.
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 2072
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2015 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post

Dave has it exactly right. While spillover during patch changes is good, it's absolutely necessary when hitting the bypass switch. I've had situations where a tune will have a big build up and I'd add reverb and delays and then it drops back down into the groove and I want to hit bypass and have the bass line come out of a swirling cloud of delay and reverb. I ended up being able to do with my Lexicon MPX G2, but it required ridiculous shenanigans and the use of DSP power, so from this point on, if there's no spillover, it's a deal breaker for me.

Even the Lexicon LXP 1 and 5 had this from the 80s.
jalevinemd
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Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 1030
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 7:15 am:   Edit Post

Makes sense now. Thanks.
jalevinemd
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Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 1031
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 7:16 am:   Edit Post

Makes sense now. Thanks.
jalevinemd
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Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 1032
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 7:30 am:   Edit Post

Makes sense now. Thanks.
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 6160
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 8:18 am:   Edit Post

Yes folks, he stuck it:

The rare TRIPLE POST!

A new record!

hehehehe

Bill, tgo
jalevinemd
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Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 1033
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 1:03 pm:   Edit Post

Wow! This thing truly is buggered!

That third post came through 15 minutes later.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 11875
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 1:28 pm:   Edit Post

:-)

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