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flpete1uw
Senior Member
Username: flpete1uw

Post Number: 529
Registered: 11-2011
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2015 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post

Hey guys,
Has anyone had any experience with Bergantino cabs?
I was thinking about the CN-212.
http://bergantino.com/product/cn212-loudspeaker/
Curious what neo speakers were in them.
Just throwing it out there with I crew I trust!
Pete
wayne
Advanced Member
Username: wayne

Post Number: 229
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2015 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post

I've owned a HT-112 for about 15 years or so and love it. For 5-string electric it works great in tandom with my BagEnd single 15. Where the Bergantino 12 really shines for me is with upright.

The HT-112 is the old "heavy" design (it weighs in at about 48 lbs). I would trust Bergantino if they say that the neo loaded cabs have the same tone. I really like the tone.

I remember the dealer telling me he asked Bergantino what made his cabs that much better. The reply, as I recall, was, "I got the tweeter RIGHT."

FWIW

C-Ya..............wayne
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1712
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2015 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post

I don't know anything about Bergantino cabinets, but I suggest you check out AccuGroove also before you buy.

http://www.accugroovellc.com/#!basskeyboards/c1d11

I have the El Whappo & Wedgie & they are the most amazing sounding cabinets I have ever used. I thought my Series II Europa sounded good through my Eden boxes, but the AccuGrooves blow them away! I could never quite get the tone I had in my head until I got my AccuGroves. They have tons of bottom & crystal clear highs, & you can get any sound you want out of them. They are very lightweight too, the El Whappo is a 4 way with 15/12/6/& dual tweeter, & it only weighs 58 pounds. The Wedgie is a 3 way with 12/6/dual tweeter & only weighs 29 pounds. It is more than adequate for any club gig & cuts through the stage volume with 2 guitars & acoustic drums easily. I will never buy another cabinet.
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 2742
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2015 - 1:23 pm:   Edit Post

I have owned one for about a year and love it. It is tight and has great mid presence and a smooth high end. I live a few miles from Jim Bergantino's shop and was playing regularly on his development floor with a guy who works in the same building. I got to use a few different Bergantino cabs while I was there, including the CN112, CN212, AE212, and some heavy 410 beast. No doubt that a stack of 410s would have been the choice if I were joining Black Sabbath. The AE212 might have sounded a little less articulate than the CN212 if you were looking for a vintage warm tone with easy transport. The CN cabinets provide great note definition as well as a very smooth and musical response across the spectrum.

One day, I brought the Schroeder cabinet that I had been gigging for the previous several years and did an A/B with the CN212. No contest. My cabinet, that had been getting positive reviews from listeners for years, sounded like mud by comparison. Yeah, they're over $1000 for just a cabinet, but I'm very happy I paid the price.

I think Jim said something about getting the speakers from Italy. I don't know the details, but you should be able to call or email him and get an answer to any questions you might have. I recommend the cabinet, and the cover fits well in a way that doesn't have you fighting to get it on and off when you want to.

-bob
tomhug
Intermediate Member
Username: tomhug

Post Number: 189
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2015 - 2:34 pm:   Edit Post

I wound up trading cabinet I had listed for a Berg HD-212. I had no intention of moving to Bergantino, but the other cab was simply in my storage unit and had been listed for sale for a long time so I thought, "Why not try something new?" I am glad I did. This quickly became my favorite cabinet. So far it's come closest to the "sound that I hear in my head"

The HD-212 is heavy ~ 79 lbs, because it's loaded with two non-neo speakers with 80 oz magnets. But it's a great cab.

It definitely has a low-mid presence that is very musical. I believe the CN-212 is the lower-weight neo evolution of the cabinet I now own.

If I could have the tone I am now getting with the lighter weight of neodymium, I would do it in a second. But the HD-212 cabinet (+plus a nice folding dolly) is doing everything I need at the moment.

My primary application is blues, rock, folk-rock, & pop. I could see that the HD-212 might not be a great choice if you're after super-trebley slap tone.

I use the Berg cab at a blues jam I host (with a Genz-Benz ShuttleMax 12.0). It sees lots of different basses and sounds great with all of them. Bergantino gets a huge thumbs up in my book.
flpete1uw
Senior Member
Username: flpete1uw

Post Number: 530
Registered: 11-2011
Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2015 - 6:46 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks guys,
All I hear is praise for the cn-212 and for that matter anything Bergantino wherever I look.
Rusty, been monitoring your praise for the Whappo and will certainly be considered when I pull the trigger.

Pete
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1713
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Monday, August 03, 2015 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post

Pete, the AccuGroove's use the Italian speakers too. I'm sure you can't go wrong with either brand. Good luck!
5a_quilt_top
Senior Member
Username: 5a_quilt_top

Post Number: 596
Registered: 6-2012
Posted on Monday, August 03, 2015 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post

No experience with the CN-212, but I have an older ported 2x10 with an adjustable tweeter that I'm fond of.

Big sound in a small box and top-notch craftsmanship.

Sounds particularly good with my SWR 750X.
wfmandmusic
Intermediate Member
Username: wfmandmusic

Post Number: 178
Registered: 1-2012
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 7:14 am:   Edit Post

I love my cn-212! It's got great tone and by itself will fill a small to medium size club no problem. I do pair mine with a berg 15 as well for larger venues. The large full tone out of the cn-212 is hard to believe.
rv_bass
Member
Username: rv_bass

Post Number: 66
Registered: 8-2014
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post

Does anyone know much about the Bergantino HT112? There's one for sale locally for $379, looks to be in decent shape, just wondering if that's a good price.
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 2745
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 3:19 pm:   Edit Post

Sounds like a typical price. Other than that they are pricey, I can't remember hearing too many negatives about any Bergantino cabinet. I would look on TalkBass a little for comments on the cab and possible information on previous sales.
rv_bass
Member
Username: rv_bass

Post Number: 67
Registered: 8-2014
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 6:12 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks, bsee. I poked around TalkBass a little, I'll look some more. So far what I've seen is that people like the sound, but this model looks to be at least 10 years old, so I'll look some more for current pricing.

Thanks!

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