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jahnahisti
Junior
Username: jahnahisti

Post Number: 12
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 2:00 pm:   Edit Post

Here's the official announcement from Phil's Website:

An Announcement from Phil Lesh:

Last year, I promised to bring back the original concept of Phil Lesh &
Friends: bringing in different musicians to provide fresh perspectives on the music. I had originally planned to mix up the lineup after New Years- but it turns out that, in order to take advantage of other musical opportunities that have come his way, Jimmy Herring will now be moving on a little earlier. Iım sure that his new musical experiences will result in further growth, which is vital to a musician.

Larry Campbell will be replacing Jimmy with Phil & Friends. Larry is a veteran of Bob Dylanıs great band, and one of the premier guitarists and multi-instrumentalists of the age. One of the great joys of music making is to be challenged and inspired by a wide range of artistic visions. I look forward to Larryıs joining the long line of influences and inspirations that have contributed not only to the music itself, but also to my personal musical development.
- Phil
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1223
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 3:08 pm:   Edit Post

Well, hopefully it won't be a permanent thing. Herring's contribution to Phil's and the Dead's past tours have rekindled some of the old Jerry spirit lacking since Cap'n Trips took the golden road to unlimited devotion.
spose
Junior
Username: spose

Post Number: 45
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 4:55 pm:   Edit Post

killer unbroken chain on phil lesh dot net..that end jam is sweet!

good luck jimmy!

Larry Campbell is excellent.. can't wait to hear him in the band!
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1226
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 5:56 am:   Edit Post

Don't know if that end jam is Herring or Barry Sless, but it is great...and it's after the song's supposed to end! Regardless, I hope to find out on the 22nd in Joisey.
pace
Intermediate Member
Username: pace

Post Number: 185
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 7:47 am:   Edit Post

Interesting that both Larry & Barry can play pedal steel, and their names rhyme to boot!!!!
spose
Junior
Username: spose

Post Number: 46
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 8:48 am:   Edit Post

Barry Sless use to play in a band in the 90's called Dead Ringers..ever hear them?
edwin
Intermediate Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 102
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post

I've heard a rumour that the shows that Larry can't make will feature John Scofield. Now that I would like to see (and hear).

Edwin
jagerphan84
Advanced Member
Username: jagerphan84

Post Number: 214
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 6:46 am:   Edit Post

From Phillesh.net -

Larry will miss the December 3rd Buffalo show and the December 4th Albany show due to his previous commitments. World class guitar virtuoso John Scofield will be joining Phil and Friends for those shows.

I'll be at the 12/4 show. I'll be sure to post a review!

Adam
pace
Intermediate Member
Username: pace

Post Number: 186
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 6:54 am:   Edit Post

Scofield and Joan Osbourne were suppossed to do a gig with Phil's band a few years ago in Bridgeport CT~ but the promoter bailed. Back then it wouldve been Scofield & Herring~ no Warren...... oh well......
tom_z
Advanced Member
Username: tom_z

Post Number: 212
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 9:55 am:   Edit Post

Phil releases free soundboard recordings a couple times a year. Can't make it to New York for the shows with Scofield - I'll keep my fingers crossed for a DSBD release. =)

Tom
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2566
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 2:49 pm:   Edit Post

Even if there is not a soundboard release, there should be a good taper recording on the Live Music Archive. The only problem is that by the time December 3 and 4 come around I will have completely forgotten about it!
tom_z
Advanced Member
Username: tom_z

Post Number: 213
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 7:27 pm:   Edit Post

I'm with you Dave - the grey matter ain't what it used to be. I'll try to remember to check for P&F in the archive in a couple of months. I try to make a regular sweep through some of my favorite archive bands every few weeks, and even try to stream stuff I've never heard before. Always looking for something new to listen to.

I have to say, I'm not a big fan of audience recordings - I've heard a couple that were okay, but I generally find that they sound very 2-dimensional and muffled. And, although many people like the crowd sounds and atmosphere of the venue, I prefer to hear a nice clean recording of the music. Some of the best recordings of live music I've heard from the archive are "on-stage" recordings.

If there are any avid archive fans out there are you downloading anything interesting lately?

If you're interested, the following are a few of my favorite bands on the archive:

Global Funk
Railroad Earth
Steve Kimock Band
KVHW
Zero
Yonder Mountain String Band
Aquarium Rescue Unit
Sound Tribe Sector 9
Robert Randolph
Umphrey's McGee
Lots of Phil Lesh
and even more Grateful Dead

Tom

(Message edited by tom_z on November 14, 2005)
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2572
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 8:03 pm:   Edit Post

Tom; yes I am interested. I'm not familiar with some of the names you listed. What I'm most interested in finding are bands with lots of up front bass. An example of such a band I found on the archive is Garaj Mahal with Kai Eckhardt on bass. Although I can't say that I'm in love with what the band is always doing, Eckhardt is a really good player. I've also downloaded some Flecktones (pretty good bass player <g> ), Dead, Lesh, Kimock, Derek Trucks, and a couple I haven't even listened to yet.
tom_z
Advanced Member
Username: tom_z

Post Number: 214
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 9:10 pm:   Edit Post

Ah yes, I have a very nice stage recording of the Flecktones - Victor sounds great.

The bass player for Global Funk, Matt Schumacher, is excellent - when I saw them live he played a fretless. The bass on STS9 is pretty "up front" - nice deep grooves. Ryan Stasik from Umphrey's McGee is also amazing and their form of improvisation is pretty cool. You're probably aware that the very talented Bobby Vega can be heard on KVHW and early SKB - Steve has teamed up with a bunch of bass players including Alphonso Johnson in 2001, 02, and 03.

As far as the bass being up front in the recordings on the archive, I think it's pretty hit and miss. I've heard a bunch of bassy audience recordings but they also sound rather mushy. I've found the stage recordings and some of the soundboard and matrix recordings to have the best separation making it a little easier for you to eq it to your taste.

Tom
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2574
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 6:51 am:   Edit Post

Thanks for the info on Global Funk, STS9, and Umphrey's McGee. I'll try to look into them. I have a DVD of Kimock with Johnson. I don't think I have anything with Bobby Vega; and I haven't yet downloaded any KVHW. Thanks again for all the info!
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1258
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post

If you want running info on the "jam" bands you mentioned, Relix magazine is for you. I got a free subscription for an order I placed with the Dead's store. Unfortunately, 90% of the bands covered are those mentioned above and then some, none of which I've heard before. Since there's not much Dead current events since Jerry's death (at least not enough to sustain a monthly magazine), Relix had to branch out to cover other musicians and forms of music in order to survive. Unfortunately for me, as a long time Dead Head, no jam band, however good, does it for me like the Dead. To me, it's like me, a long-time Harley devotee, riding a Yamaha Star or Honda Shadow (i.e., Japanese Harley clone): not gonna happen as only the original will do.
While a Relix subscription does nothing for me, it may for any of you into bands like Phish, Moe., etc.

Just my $0.02.
tom_z
Advanced Member
Username: tom_z

Post Number: 215
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 1:53 pm:   Edit Post

I pick up Relix from time to time. They recently published an issue featuring Jerry and the Grateful Dead commemorating 40 years of the Dead and honoring Jerry 10 years after his departure - great issue.

The term "jamband" is tricky. I've seen artists as different as John Scofield and Allison Krause, Willie Nelson and Little Feat all lumped under the "Jamband" flag. I think people like to be able to label and classify stuff and "jamband" makes it easier. If your band features instrumental improvisation and you stray from pretty strict Jazz conventions, you could be labeled a "jamband."

The bands I mentioned above obviously allow recording of their live performances, a legacy of the Grateful Dead, and are often labeled "jamband" as a result. Yonder Mountain String Band is a bluegrass band, though, and Robert Randolph has roots in the Sacred Steel tradition of Pentecostal churches.

For anyone who experienced the musical phenomenon, the X-Factor, the communication between the band and the audience that could occur at a Grateful Dead concert, I would think there wouldn't be anything quite like it. But there's a lot of amazing stuff out there that can send you to different musical and even spiritual places - regardless of how it’s labeled.

Kevin, you mentioned you haven't heard most of the music reported on in Relix, or that I mentioned above. You never know what might "do it" for you 'til you give it a listen. Phil and Bobby are still touring pretty actively, but the Grateful Dead is never again going to be the way you and I remember them. Don't give up on the possibility for that "Live Music Connection" that can transport you out of yourself.

Wow, I hope this doesn’t come off as too preachy. =)

Tom
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1262
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post

Tom,

I haven't heard 'em all, but I have heard some: Moe., Dave Mathews, Blues Traveller, Phish, Carl Denson's Tiny Universe, etc. Personally, they just don't do it for me. Call me spoiled by the Dead, but the current 'jam' band thing just isn't my thing. Granted, I am jaded and can be close-minded at times, but the current jam band scene I've heard so far isn't for me.

Jazz is cool, bluegrass is cool, bands like the Awesome Bros and Willie are cool, but I'm just not into the post-Jerry Dead influenced bands or their contemporaries.

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