| Author | Message | ||
| jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 4959 Registered: 6-2002 |
Something I fell upon in someones Facebook picture library but never seen them before. Looks interesting. http://www.gizmag.com/the-rock-lock-helps-protect-your-guitar-from-thieving-hands/16732/pictures#1 For some reason I can't get the company web site to load to see if there is a bass version but they seem to be $49.95 from strings and beyond. | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 6387 Registered: 7-2004 |
Looks like the cable lock that we bought for my son's brand new bike in High School. It was stolen the first day. The bike shop people told me bolt cutters go through these like a hot knife through butter. Of course if you attached the other side to your ankle, it would probably prevent theft just fine. Bill, tgo | ||
| stephenr
Advanced Member Username: stephenr Post Number: 205 Registered: 9-2014 |
Somehow I can't see much need for something like this. Best protection for an instrument is to make sure someone has it in their field of vision at all times. I would be way more concerned with an instrument getting stolen when checked as baggage on a flight than stolen at a gig. Or getting swiped from a parked car even if left in the trunk. | ||
| jalevinemd
Senior Member Username: jalevinemd Post Number: 1087 Registered: 12-2003 |
Guess the only selling point is that if someone is looking to lift your guitar from a gig, they probably aren't carrying bolt cutters. | ||
| keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 2386 Registered: 2-2005 |
My guess this is one of those items that keeps an honest man honest but won't be much deterrent to someone dead set on stealing the guitar. So for a bar gig break or something like that it would probably be ok. I still think having my wife on guard duty is a better deterrent and gives me some company for the drive to boot. Bill, I had a similar event as your son's when I was in high school. I had just returned from its first weekend bicycle trip and stopped by the store to pickup a couple of things before going home. Came out about ten minutes later and the bike was gone. That's when I learned quick release hubs aren't just for changing tires. Keith | ||
| 5a_quilt_top
Member Username: 5a_quilt_top Post Number: 72 Registered: 6-2012 |
Advice given to me by several professional thieves during the time I worked in a prison in the early 80's: "If I know it's there and I want it, you can't stop me from getting it - I WILL find a way to steal it from you. The biggest deterrent to theft is not letting me know you have it." These guys laughed at alarms, locks, fences, dogs, etc. and had ways of dealing with all of them. | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 4839 Registered: 5-2009 |
Jazzyvee , Thanks for posting this . I like it . I have played more bar gigs then I can remember over the years . Some of the places had some individuals there who had problems with boundary issues. Many of us here have been and there and done that . I think this would be a good deterrent to keep your instrument out of such hands . At large outside festivals with many thousands of people where a person can disappear in the crowd in seconds this might give you peace of mind. I just returned from The SXSW festival ,in Austin Texas , a huge wonderful loving bunch of folks there but all it takes is one "Bad Apple" to get your Axe messed with and that's no fun . I just might purchase this " Gizmo". Wolf | ||
| flpete1uw
Senior Member Username: flpete1uw Post Number: 613 Registered: 11-2011 |
The last time I looked into this item they weren't made for Basses? Anything change? Pete | ||
| jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 4960 Registered: 6-2002 |
That's an interesting insight David and yes it's a reminder that there is only so much anyone can do to protect the things they want to keep. At the moment I always carry my guitar/bass with me all the time when I'm not on stage unless someone in the band is staying backstage. Most of the gigs I play at there are a number of other bands backstage too and rarely any of the dressing rooms are locked so I would not consider the back stage area secure. So being able to lock things down might well be enough to deter a casual opportunist but not a determined pro as In Bill's case. Pete I've not found anything that says it will fit bass but at $50.00 is not that expensive relatively so if I can find one this side of the pond and it fits my guitars that will be good and if it fits my bass also, then even better. Now if the cable could somehow be threaded through to the inside of my lockable guitar case and then locked into place that would be better than leaving a guitar unattended on a stand back stage. | ||
| ed_zeppelin
Advanced Member Username: ed_zeppelin Post Number: 305 Registered: 2-2010 |
On the other hand, you could use 'em to lock up the instruments of people whose music you don't like. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody does that to me someday. Come back from break; "oh man, somebody locked my bass to a stand! Oh no, they locked it on the fourth fret! Hey, do guys mind playing in A-flat for the rest of the night while I squat behind this stand and pound my bass's strings with a beer bottle? It'll be fine."  | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 6388 Registered: 7-2004 |
Does it double as a capo? Bill. tgo | ||
| rustyg61
Senior Member Username: rustyg61 Post Number: 1810 Registered: 2-2011 |
I never let my basses out of my sight at a gig, so I wouldn't have any use for it. | ||
| jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 4961 Registered: 6-2002 |
Bill, i'm sure Victor Wooten could do great musical things with it in Capo mode. I'm like you Rusty for about 99% of the time. But there are times that I'd like to leave mine back stage whilst I go watch the next band or just take in the vibe of the club, venue without carrying my bass. Or be totally relaxed about leaving it in my hotel room which is another area things can disappear. So far may current methodology has been fine but sometimes a little help is not a bad thing. | ||
| jcdlc72
Senior Member Username: jcdlc72 Post Number: 485 Registered: 11-2009 |
I would be concerned on the possibility of someone trying to mess with the cable lock, not being successful and then damaging the instrument, just for frustration, for the sake of it. My approach is the same as Jazzy's, try hard never to leave your instrument alone... | ||
| bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 2570 Registered: 9-2002 |
One more reason I'm glad I'm through playing out: If I've got a real need for this, what the hell am I doing? I don't know, it just makes me slightly sad. On the other hand, though, I can just hear Mr. ". . . but these go to Eleven" explaining to the cop that he had it locked to the 10-dollar guitar stand, and can't believe they took it, too . . . . . Joey | ||
| jon_jackson
Advanced Member Username: jon_jackson Post Number: 238 Registered: 12-2008 |
Without comment on the merits of using these versus leaving your Alembic bass alone on the stand, placing it in the case, locking it in the car, or simply leaving it at home, these devices do fit a 4 string (or 5 if narrow) Alembic bass neck. While most of my Alembics and other basses are 1.5 - 1.78" nut width, I have two of these devices and they do fit them all. I bought them not to stop the bolt-cutter equipped thief, but simply the snatch and run kid. One can attach the loop end to the speaker cabinet, which will be a little heavier, at least in my case, than the guitar stand. The locking end can also be used to secure the guitar case (through its handle) to a large, heavy object, if desired. While they may not be for everyone or every situation, they generally do what they are claimed to do. Not foolproof, but better than just leaving the bass on its stand or in an unsecured case. Jon | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 4843 Registered: 5-2009 |
Jon, exactly as what you wrote in your post above (238) is what I was thinking ! It is that " snatch and run kid " ! Wolf | ||
| flpete1uw
Senior Member Username: flpete1uw Post Number: 614 Registered: 11-2011 |
Let me know if you can find any. Can't open the Rocklock website any more. Strings and beyond stating out of stock? Out of buisness? Pete | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 4844 Registered: 5-2009 |
Hi Pete , I will be checking for availability as well and when I find it I will let you know . Wolf | ||
| jalevinemd
Senior Member Username: jalevinemd Post Number: 1088 Registered: 12-2003 |
I spoke with Chris, the owner, today. His parts supplier went out of business so he had to put things on hold. He hopes to relaunch within the next year or so, possibly with newer materials and a lower price point. | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 4845 Registered: 5-2009 |
Thanks for the update Jonathan ! Kool . Wolf | ||
| gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy Post Number: 1038 Registered: 9-2004 |
I wonder why they didn't plastic coat that cable? Maybe it would be too slippery to lock. | ||
| flpete1uw
Senior Member Username: flpete1uw Post Number: 615 Registered: 11-2011 |
Thanks guys, Now that I know that the "Raven" is on it, it will be found. Peace, Pete | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 4846 Registered: 5-2009 |
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| jon_jackson
Advanced Member Username: jon_jackson Post Number: 239 Registered: 12-2008 |
The ones I have have the cable coated in red plastic with the junction points of the "loops" sleeved in a vinyl shrink-wrap type of cover. Very non-scratching for the guitar. The actual locking mechanism is coated in a material which is kind of rubbery, so the neck doesn't get scratched either. Jon |
