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davr35
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Username: davr35

Post Number: 35
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 4:11 pm:   Edit Post

what about Horace Planter and Graham Maby....two points if you know who they are...LOL
bracheen
Senior Member
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 902
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 4:25 pm:   Edit Post

David Crosby, 8/14/41
www.grahammaby.com, Joe Jackson, Natalie Merchant, They Might Be Giants
You got me on Horace Planter
davr35
Junior
Username: davr35

Post Number: 36
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 4:29 pm:   Edit Post

One point then .. Horace Planter.. the Specials
valvil
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Username: valvil

Post Number: 802
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 4:49 pm:   Edit Post

Graham Maby is one my favorites, with Joe Jackson, possibly the ugliest bass player on the planet; Sunday (later Monday)Papers, loved that bass line. Horace Panter, also know as "Sir Horace Gentleman", another real cool player. I love all the British Ska groups of the early '80s.

Valentino
davr35
Junior
Username: davr35

Post Number: 37
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 5:03 pm:   Edit Post

The Two Tone movement of the late 70's early 80's is one of the biggest influences on my own very poor style of playing.. if you can call hitting my Bass with a Baseball Bat playing
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 672
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 1:14 am:   Edit Post

How could I forget Graham Maby? Still - credit where credit's due: he always points out that those marvellous bass lines came from Joe Jackson himself.

Now that we have the UK contingent back in line: we must mention Norman Watt-Roy (Ian Dury & the Blockheads).
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1416
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 5:39 am:   Edit Post

Wow, David Crosby's even older than my Mom, LOL!

BTW, you don't have to do a few hits to enjoy your LP's on a turntable. Analogue is alive and well and has never sounded better. Anyone who thinks digital is the cat's *ss hasn't heard good analogue...done right, it always has been and still is superior to digital: it's just plain sounds more like real music. Pardon me for my rave...my Hi-Fi tendencies are poking through, LOL!

Remember, lennon had a truntable installed suspended from the ceiling of his custom psychedelic painted '65 Rolls Phantom just so he could listen to Procol's "Whiter Shade" over and over again, LOL!
gare
Advanced Member
Username: gare

Post Number: 297
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 2:19 pm:   Edit Post

"you don't have to do a few hits to enjoy your LP's on a turntable"
Well, thats true, its just a little more fun that way !
I agree with the analog/digital thing, seems like they compress everything so much now days that there's not much bandwidth (an unsolicitied opinion, please I bruse easily), I do prefer the sizzle of a cymbal in there etc.
Kev..I had a buddy that had a 66 Impala with a turntable under the dash..it was a riot..come on, hit that pot hole ! Zzzzzzzz...he wrecked more good records with that thing ! LOL !!!!
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 673
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post

Your average sizzle on an LP will be caused by dirt seated in the groove. But anyway, you need to look at the whole chain of reproduction, not just the start. And I'm not even talking recording techniques here ... though I do recommend making your own recordings on a digital tape recorder, perhaps an old Sony PWM module with a VHS machine for storage, in a controlled environment with only your own instruments, in a climate controlled ... etc, etc.

For sizzle, I recommend 1980s speakers of just about any German manufacturer.
For mid burp and no low or high end response to speak of, 1980s Tannoy.
For pure bliss, Quad electrostats with a meaty tube power amp.
bigbadbill
Advanced Member
Username: bigbadbill

Post Number: 216
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 6:32 am:   Edit Post

Sir Paul pre-playing; Phil Lynott as an inspiration and Lemmy as both player AND inspiration at the very start, then Geddy, Geezer, Glenn Hughes/Roger Glover/John Paul Jones/Mike Rutherford, Jean Jacques Burnel of the Stranglers and Lee/Leigh/Leroy Gorman of Bow Wow Wow (who is vastly underrated IMHO) then Stanley Clarke, Mark King (the first guy I ever saw slapping; I wish I'd seen someone a bit slower first, scared the pants off me), John McVie and Chris Squire, then Entwistle (for some reason I discovered him very late!). Joey DeMaio of Manowar (No comments please!). Since then Stuart Zender, ex Jamiroquai. And probably loads of others along the way.....
cosmicprune
Junior
Username: cosmicprune

Post Number: 14
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 6:40 am:   Edit Post

I'm glad someone mentioned Phil Lynott. If you want to define what it means to play tight, he was the man. Great feel for the groove.
bigbadbill
Advanced Member
Username: bigbadbill

Post Number: 218
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post

Phil is one of my all time heroes. Just had my picture taken with his statue in Dublin , the nearest I ever got to meeting him unfortunately. Seeing Thin Lizzy live on the Old Grey Whistle Test was what made me want to join a band. Well, that and the first rock gig I actually attended (Hawkwind in 79). Was a bit of a culture shock as the previous gigs I'd been to were Buddy Rich (twice- my favourite drummer of all time), Louis Bellson, Stan Kenton and Woody Herman.
bracheen
Senior Member
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 906
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post

Where in Dublin is Phil's statue? I didn't know about it and haven't seen it. Do you know when it was erected?

Sam
jet_powers
Advanced Member
Username: jet_powers

Post Number: 243
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 4:06 pm:   Edit Post

Almost all those mentioned by everbody has been an influence on me, a few I can't say I'm really aware of. However, nobody mentioned (save your laughter until the end, please!) Mel Schacher of Grand Funk. For some reason his playing caught my 13 year old ear back in '72 and made me want a bass. Not a technician but could definately cut a groove.

OK, now you can laugh, but hey, I was 13!!!

JP
davr35
Junior
Username: davr35

Post Number: 39
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 5:22 pm:   Edit Post

In all honesty one is most likey influenced by everyone one hears in some form or another even by bad player(like me) if it is just knowing what not to do
811952
Senior Member
Username: 811952

Post Number: 588
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 5:39 pm:   Edit Post

Mel Schacker's tone is killer, too. I always liked what he did...
bigbadbill
Advanced Member
Username: bigbadbill

Post Number: 222
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 4:53 am:   Edit Post

Sam, that's a good question! I was walking with my girlfriend in a torrential downpour and just sort of ran into it! It's actually in the middle of a small street around Temple Bar, but I'd be pushed to find it again. Its kind of low key...not sure when it was erected.
bigbadbill
Advanced Member
Username: bigbadbill

Post Number: 223
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 4:58 am:   Edit Post

Sam, that's a good question! I was walking with my girlfriend in a torrential downpour and just sort of ran into it! It's actually in the middle of a small street around Temple Bar, but I'd be pushed to find it again. Its kind of low key...not sure when it was erected.
bigbadbill
Advanced Member
Username: bigbadbill

Post Number: 224
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 5:00 am:   Edit Post

Oh rats, double post....
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2736
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 7:46 am:   Edit Post

It's "on Harry Street, just off Grafton Street".
mpisanek
Intermediate Member
Username: mpisanek

Post Number: 115
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 5:09 am:   Edit Post

Here's the link to the RTE release in Dublin.

http://www.rte.ie/arts/2005/0819/lynottp.html
mpisanek
Intermediate Member
Username: mpisanek

Post Number: 116
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 5:10 am:   Edit Post

Pix here.

http://www.hwcn.org/~ae818/lizzy4/tribute/rjdub05.html
bracheen
Senior Member
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 910
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 5:45 am:   Edit Post

Dave, Michael, thanks for the info. I'll be sure to look for it on my next pilgrimage to Eire.

Sam
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1456
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 6:10 am:   Edit Post

Phil's 70's Irish 'Fro is the best! Slainte'!
bracheen
Senior Member
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 911
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 6:18 am:   Edit Post

Kevin, Dia dhuit ar maidin! Slainte, eh? Not bad for an Italian.

Sam
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1459
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 6:34 am:   Edit Post

I'm afraid my Gaelic is limited to cheers and curses, LOL!
mpisanek
Intermediate Member
Username: mpisanek

Post Number: 118
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 6:48 am:   Edit Post

Sam:

Give us some warning on your trip, and we'll see if we can meet up for a pint of Guinness. . . or two. . . or three. . . or four! I really don't need much of an excuse!
bracheen
Senior Member
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 912
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 8:29 am:   Edit Post

Mike
Go ahead and start without me. At the moment my budget doesn't have trans-Atlantic journeys in it.

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