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| hydrargyrum
Intermediate Member Username: hydrargyrum Post Number: 178 Registered: 3-2004 |
http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/news/article343743.ece | ||
| harald_rost
Intermediate Member Username: harald_rost Post Number: 114 Registered: 6-2002 |
I have different thoughts about that. Hard enough they toured long time with Keith Moon replaced who was an essential part of the group IMHO, but without John E. it's an infamy to call the remaining band The Who. | ||
| jet_powers
Advanced Member Username: jet_powers Post Number: 259 Registered: 2-2003 |
I tend to agree with you Harald, but the voice is Roger and the guitar and pen, Pete. If they will to call it The Who, then it's The Who. To me, JAE was more than half the reason to attend their concerts, without him I see no reason to go really. JP | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 3165 Registered: 5-2002 |
I tried to go to the Who site to see who the bass player was going to be, but you have to be a member to access the site. If it's Pino, then Pino might make it more interesting. Plus I know some members of this forum that know a few Who tunes who could probably step right in!!! <g> I'm watching the Yokohama video on Pete's website right now and that looks like Pino on bass. Nice video by the way. | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 3166 Registered: 5-2002 |
This is a really cool video; and here I was going to try to get some work done. | ||
| dibolosi
Junior Username: dibolosi Post Number: 26 Registered: 1-2004 |
I heard from the mouth of Entwistle himself that he didn't call the band the "Who" after Keith Moon had passed. He called the band TED (for Townshend, Entwistle, Daltry). When asked why he called the band TED instead of The Who he replied "because TED sounds better than DET". | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 956 Registered: 7-2004 |
At this point it might be more appropriate to call the band "The What"! LOL Bill, tgo | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 990 Registered: 3-2004 |
And the next album will be called "Who's Left". Seriously, though, while I understand the concept behind TED, I don't think that would have been respectful to the replacement drummer. It may not have been "The Who" performing, but it was more than "TED". | ||
| jacko
Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 505 Registered: 10-2002 |
Bob. It was kenny Jones - difficult to add a 'J' in there. It's nice that Zak starkey is sitting in - Ringo and Keith Moon were very close friends. Graeme | ||
| jet_powers
Advanced Member Username: jet_powers Post Number: 262 Registered: 2-2003 |
Not to mention that Zak is the best replacement they've found yet. Also, I'm pretty sure that Pino is on board for this...... JP | ||
| kmh364
Senior Member Username: kmh364 Post Number: 1727 Registered: 9-2003 |
No matter the name, to me, half of the Who, no matter how old/bald/deaf/wrinkled, etc., is better than no Who at all. I loved John and Moonie, but as long as they can still cut it live, I say let 'em tour! | ||
| zn_bassman
Member Username: zn_bassman Post Number: 74 Registered: 4-2005 |
Pino and Zak have played on all Who (or Who2 as they're affectionately known) gigs since John died, except Live8 - the rhythm section from another successful band, whose name escapes me at the moment (lack of sleep), played that show. Greg Lake played bass on one of the 2 singles they released after John died - I think it was Old Red Wine, but it might have been Real Good Looking Boy (sleep again). Keith Moon coached Zak on the drums personally. One of Zak's earliest professional activities was the drum tracks on John's album "The Rock", which was recorded in 1986 and not released for about 10 years because of the record company execs being busted for financial misdealings. On that recording, he sounds like his dad - very straightforward timekeeping. Also, the first known surfacing of the nickname TED was for the Who's brass, percussion, guitars, keys and singers-augmented megatour in 1989. Re: Kenney Jones - he didn't try to mimic Moon, and the result was AMAZING live guitar and bass improv by Pete and John. Check out the much-bootlegged show from Madison Square Gardens in 1979 (they sing happy birthday to Kenney) - John takes his Spyder to the wildest places in Dreaming From the Waist, Magic Bus, Drowned and elsewhere. They also did Trick of the Light, presumably in the configuration of the rare photo elsewhere on this board of John on his 8-string Spyder and Pete on an older Sereis 1. Last I knew, signing up to Pete's site is quick and free. That was indeed Pino at Yokohama. He plays solid bass with The Who, with an occasional foray out of the pocket. He's done the My Generation solo in at least 3 ways: as on the record, "missing man formation" where he leaves the 3rd (most difficult) run out entirely, and with some jazzy improv in the high register. | ||
| zn_bassman
Member Username: zn_bassman Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2005 |
Almost forgot - Jones was a full member of The Who (voting and financial rights) from 1979 until they broke up in '82. He played drums with them at some one-offs like Live Aid in the 80s. Simon Phillips played drums with them on the '89 tour, and Zak's had the spot since. Pete, John and Roger never allowed another person to become a full member after Jones (including longtime keyboardist John "Rabbit" Bundrick, who has played keys with them since '79 except for the '82 tour, where Tim Gorman replaced him because Pete fired Rabbit at the time after an alcohol-enhanced event). | ||
| jacko
Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 509 Registered: 10-2002 |
" an Alcohol-Enhanced event" LOL! sounds like something I'd enjoy. Can we get tickets? Thanks for that info Zvi - you must have an encyclopedic knwledge of all things 'Who'. BTW How's the U2 tribute coming along? Graeme | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 3178 Registered: 5-2002 |
Thanks for the info Zvi! | ||
| zn_bassman
Member Username: zn_bassman Post Number: 76 Registered: 4-2005 |
Bottoms and consequences up! My Who and Entwistle knowledge are humbled by those of Oliver and some others on the forum - I was just quicker with the mouse this time. We were doing great with some U2 songs until we discovered the worst of realities - another band is doing a round of U2 tribute shows in the same places we wanted to play. We're now juggling some ideas around - a Dire Straits show, a Police show, a Cream show or some kind of mix of bands that won't come off as a "regular" covers night. Have to do some homework and see who's out there on the circuit. I, of course, would be quite happy to do Lifehouse (the failed project that became Who's Next) or Quadrophenia. Or a John Entwistle Band show. | ||
| 2400wattman
Member Username: 2400wattman Post Number: 54 Registered: 11-2005 |
I think they (Pete & Roger) should hire Billy Sheehan. He's got the tone,attitude and he's a huge Entwistle fan! Yeee Haaw! | ||
| zn_bassman
Member Username: zn_bassman Post Number: 78 Registered: 4-2005 |
Billy's also the only prominent bassist I've heard who really incorporates some of John's signature phrasing in his playing. He's got his own thing going, but the influence is clearly there. I think that Pete and Rog don't want to try to fill John's shoes with a virtuoso player, just like they didn't try to "replace" Moon with another wild drummer. Jones was a timekeeper, Phillips was creative-yet-disciplined, and Zak can imitate Moon's parts and style without overwhelming or grabbing too much of the spotlight. They're around 60 now, and I think Pete wants to close things out with as much of the spotlight on his guitar playing as possible. He's come a long way on lead guitar, and now he's got instrumental center stage all to himself. Also, neither Pete nor Rog ever used flashy bass players on their solo records - creative and interesting yes, but virtuosos and showstoppers - no. | ||
| bassicinstincts
Junior Username: bassicinstincts Post Number: 36 Registered: 9-2003 |
Greg Lake played on Real good Looking Boy, but couldn't make the session for Old Red Wine, I believe, and Pino played the studio version of the song. Both were great when they last played (except Live 8), although Rog's voice sounds shot out half the time! To be fair to him, he did have the flu when I last saw him!! Pete's girlfriend Rachel is a great singer and pianist, and is always very sweet and kind when I see her in person. Ben | ||
| bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 626 Registered: 9-2002 |
Well if it was up to me, I'd prefer them with Kenny Jones and Pino. I just hope they don't look as old as that Cream reunion . . . J o e y | ||
| zn_bassman
Member Username: zn_bassman Post Number: 81 Registered: 4-2005 |
Thanks for the correction re: Greg Lake. Re: Daltrey - he's indeed lost much of his range, but seeing as he's around 60 now, he's got nothing to be ashamed of. He's been belting 'em out like nobody else for about 45 years. He gives everything he's got at every show, and his mic twirling has evolved to the point where it looks like a cross between an Olympic event and a martial arts movie. He's also very active in charity fundraising, especially for cancer wards specially geared to teens. Pete and Rog look remarkably fit compared with many other veteran rockers. |
