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fc_spoiler
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Post Number: 181
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:50 am:   Edit Post



Definitely Alembic styling...
Posted on a Dutch forum, with the question if it is an Alembic. I would say no, but I'm not sure...

Also found this on the site mentioned in the pic.
Epic with EMG's
jagerphan84
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Post Number: 236
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:38 am:   Edit Post

I believe the top one is called the "Hideous Beast" or "Hideous Claw" or something to that effect, and was built as a gift for a pro bassist (possibly Alain Caron?). IIRC, there was a very long thread on talkbass about it, in which the owner stated that he cannot disclose the builder.
jagerphan84
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Post Number: 237
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:40 am:   Edit Post

Ok, now after breathing and looking again, it's the Hideous Claw, and probably belongs to Jean Baudin.
fc_spoiler
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:55 am:   Edit Post

It's Jean Boudin, you can find the info on the site, but there's no info about these basses... at least I couldn't find it
jacko
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 8:04 am:   Edit Post

Ha! my eyes must be on their way out. I thought it said 'hideous cow';-)

Graeme
jacko
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 8:08 am:   Edit Post

Also, I'm pretty sure I've seen Mica post somewhere that Alembic aren't licensed to install Fanned frets.

Graeme
dadabass2001
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post

I believe Jean Baudin's band is Nuclear Rabbit. Both these pix came from Jean's personal site as credited on the first photo.
He's doing a clinic/show in Colorado in August.
Mike
george_wright
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post

Here's the talkbass thread.
jazzyvee
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post

see post below

(Message edited by jazzyvee on July 26, 2006)
jazzyvee
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Post Number: 513
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:06 pm:   Edit Post

Here is a bloke with one of those instruments, No idea who he is. May be the builder, owner or model or all three.
I had the photo on my computer a while ago.
I doubt if its an alembic as I can remember a while ago in a thread that Alembic had not made any basses with the fanned frets due to the cost of the license from norvax for doing it.



Jazzyvee
keith_h
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:21 pm:   Edit Post

From what I remember reading in Jean Baudin's thread about this bass he said many parties were involved in the construction. He does say Michael Dolan did the final construction and the gloss finish. This allows for the possibility that someone with an Alembic background could have been involved (i.e. an employee or ex-employee project).

Keith
hb3
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Post Number: 122
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post

Looks like a definite Alembic footprint on that thing to me -- besides the fanned frets.

But come on -- look at that guy's hand. How do you play the lower strings on that thing?
hydrargyrum
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:55 pm:   Edit Post

Double post, sorry.

(Message edited by hydrargyrum on July 26, 2006)
hydrargyrum
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:55 pm:   Edit Post

Well,

I am certainly no expert here, but I am guessing the lower strings are played using touch or tapping styles, ala Chapman stick.
valvil
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:09 pm:   Edit Post

I am fairly sure the fellow above is Michael Dolan a former Alembic employee back in the 70s who has his own shop now.
That bass does not "officially" belong to any company. I think I was told Michael Dolan put the finish on the bass. Couple of other guys, at least, did a lot of work on it, like the hardware and the assembly itself. I think Jean provided his own woods.

Valentino
fc_spoiler
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Post Number: 183
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post

ok ok, the 11 string is spectacular
But what about the Epic? No comments yet...
Cheers!
F.C.
hb3
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Post Number: 123
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:05 pm:   Edit Post

Nice Epic. I like the pickup mounts....
hb3
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Post Number: 124
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:08 pm:   Edit Post

I believe one plays a Chapman Stick with the left hand held normally and the right hand inverted. Inverting the left hand -- and maybe someone can correct me -- it seems to me would be highly counterintuitive, even moreso than normal on a Stick. With the left hand held normally your impulse would be to hold the neck up, whereas inverted the impulse would be to push it down. I guess you could reach over and tap the lower strings with the right hand will hammering on with the left, but that seems like one crazy reacharound.

(Message edited by hb3 on July 26, 2006)
bigredbass
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:14 pm:   Edit Post

If these things catch on, I'm going into the string business ! ! !

It's hideous, alright, but hats off to anyone who can play this beast.

J o e y
hb3
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Post Number: 125
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:15 pm:   Edit Post

Beautifully hideous. It's well named.
fc_spoiler
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Post Number: 184
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:23 pm:   Edit Post

Yeah! Check the dude's frethand in the picture, imagine that hand fretting a note on the lowest string...
I think we have here a potential new category for the Olympics! (sorry if I offended anyone by using the 'O' word)

(NO really, Im sorry...)
Cheers!
F.C.

(Message edited by fc_spoiler on July 26, 2006)
davehouck
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 9:17 pm:   Edit Post

Here is a previous thread from our forum about this bass.

And here is a video of Baudin playing a similar bass.
hb3
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Post Number: 126
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 9:33 pm:   Edit Post

Now that's just wrong.
jazzyvee
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post

I notice he's got a Phil Jones Bass Briefcase combo next to him. Nice little amps those.

Jazzyvee
hb3
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Post Number: 127
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Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 9:53 am:   Edit Post

And that Epic's got EMG pickups! Gah!
hankster
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Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post

I think "hideous cow" pretty much sums it up. Thanks for that Jacko.

Rick
fc_spoiler
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Post Number: 199
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 1:11 am:   Edit Post

You can hardly call it a bass... No more than 4 strings for me! If someone would give me one of those for my birthday, it would end up as wall decoration or on ebay...
Cheers!
F.C.
the_mule
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post

I think you need a hideous claw of a fretting hand to play that thing, hence the name...

;-)

Wilfred

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