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| blazer
Intermediate Member Username: blazer Post Number: 134 Registered: 12-2003 |
Let's talk about Geddy Lee's "Backline" I don't know how many of you noticed but for the last couple of years Geddy has ditched his amps for using a POD plugged into the mixing console. But because Alex is using a Skyline of amplifiers, Geddy's part of the stage looks a little empty and so he solved it by putting two big washing machines and a vending machine behind him where the amps would normally be. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzQeTjYWfNU I think that shows that Geddy has a terrific sense of humor. (Or should I say "Humour"?) | ||
| hb3
Advanced Member Username: hb3 Post Number: 220 Registered: 2-2005 |
I didn't know that. But there you go. Ampless gigging. I'm thinking more and more about this....like, say you were able to do a gig where all you did was feed the soundguy a single coaxial cable or something like that....think about it! Also! Has anyone heard the ten seconds of the new Rush song on the website? I have, and I like it. I have high hopes. It sounds like Hemispheres-era material.... | ||
| hb3
Advanced Member Username: hb3 Post Number: 221 Registered: 2-2005 |
Correction! The whole song is up, on their newly revamped website.... | ||
| hb3
Advanced Member Username: hb3 Post Number: 222 Registered: 2-2005 |
Jesus, that's their single? Blagh.... | ||
| smokin_dave
Advanced Member Username: smokin_dave Post Number: 305 Registered: 10-2002 |
I have a dvd called R30. It's Rush's 30th anniversary world tour and I get a kick out of seeing this washer/dryer/vending machine setup. If you like Rush,it's a great dvd. Jerry Stiller kicks the whole thing off too. What a riot. | ||
| keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 717 Registered: 2-2005 |
In one of the DVD's you even see the crew come out dressed as Rush to remove clothes and put in more coins. Definitely has a sense of humor. Keith | ||
| jacko
Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 1097 Registered: 10-2002 |
I saw them in Glasgow 2 years ago. The crew did indeed feed the dryers from time to time. Late in the show, Geddy opened one up and threw tour T'shirts into the crowd. Needless to say I was 100yards away at the time ;-( Graeme | ||
| paulman
Advanced Member Username: paulman Post Number: 221 Registered: 2-2005 |
That's hilarious. I have the Rush in Rio DVD, and did noticed the washer/dryer, but never thought about there being no bass amps up there. I'll ahve to watch for that again, and go to their website! Thanks for that lead. My only compaint is this DVD does a cut away just about every 3-4 seconds, so there is never any time to focus on one thing for very long. I really want to see Alex do a whole solo, or watch Geddy as he rocks out "The Trees" jam. | ||
| 811952
Senior Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 982 Registered: 10-2003 |
Actually, Geddy uses 3 separate SansAmp units. One is clean and bright, one is clean and bassy and the third is distortion. The three signals are mixed at the board as appropriate. I love his backline. That is funny as heck! John | ||
| alembic_doctor
Advanced Member Username: alembic_doctor Post Number: 210 Registered: 8-2002 |
He had an old Frigidaire refrigerator for the Test for Echo Tour | ||
| 811952
Senior Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 983 Registered: 10-2003 |
I read somewhere that he occasionally pulls a shirt out of one of the dryers and tosses it to the audience. He is one of my heroes! | ||
| dtrice
Junior Username: dtrice Post Number: 36 Registered: 10-2006 |
I believe that in the live settings, Geddy is using a Sansamp RBI, an Avalon U5, and a Palmer simulator. His tone comes from different blendings of the three signals. I've also read that in the studio he has used the Sansamp RPM and the Sansamp BDDI. Now that he is a Sansamp endorser I would guess that they will part of his backline for a while. But as for those Jazzes he uses, I'll quote Neil: "Leave that thing alone". | ||
| 811952
Senior Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 991 Registered: 10-2003 |
"Leave that thing alone" It's all in the fingers... | ||
| dtrice
Junior Username: dtrice Post Number: 37 Registered: 10-2006 |
True, but to my ears his fingers are better suited for Rickenbackers and Wals. Don't get me wrong I bought a Maple-neck Jazz because of seeing him and it is much more comfortable to play than my Rick. | ||
| beelee
Intermediate Member Username: beelee Post Number: 174 Registered: 11-2004 |
on Quite alot of Rush's studio albums over the years Geddy actually used a Jazz bass, not a Rick, Wal, Guild or Steinberger, live is another story................. B. | ||
| dtrice
Junior Username: dtrice Post Number: 38 Registered: 10-2006 |
The first album he is used the jazz on was Moving Pictures. Limelight was all jazz, but Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, etc. were Ricks. He bought those used 72-74 Jazzes used a few years after thad had been made. He did own the Jazzes for a while before really settling on them later, that is why Limelight stands out as being unique for that period. Now Geddy was using an old P-bass before Rush and for years afterwards. You can hear it on By-Tor and the Snowdog (the growling sounds) and on their live album "All the World's a Stage". He later shaved the body, painted it like a blueburst, added a treble pickup, and rewired it run in stereo. Yes he had been using fender sporadically throughout the early years. He used the Stein not very much in the studio. He used it(them) live more than in the studio to allow him to move more easily among the keyboards. He recorded a lot of songs with the Ricks and Wals, but toured with the Steinberger. So that can be confusing. I wish I could find those old articles where he explained a lot of this. | ||
| dtrice
Junior Username: dtrice Post Number: 39 Registered: 10-2006 |
By the way, I like Geddy. I've bought a few basses because of him. | ||
| jbybj
Member Username: jbybj Post Number: 65 Registered: 6-2006 |
I would not dream of disrespecting Geddy Lee's bass playing, I am quite fond of it, but why, in the name of all that is holy, do they let him sing? Sometime in the late 70's, last time I saw Rush, I had to sit out the last half of the set at Winterland, I thought I was going to faint from the pain. "fly by night" might as well have been an icepick in my brain. | ||
| dtrice
Junior Username: dtrice Post Number: 41 Registered: 10-2006 |
Most people don't understand how I became a Rush fan. My first exposure to Rush was the "Caress of Steel" album, which is unexplainably infamous. The first time I heard it I COULD NOT STAND that witch-like shrieking and wouldn't listen to it. But luckily my dad strongly encouraged me to listen to it, because it would teach me a lot about playing bass. He was right! I learned almost the entire album, except the "Fountain of Lamneth". Now I've come to actually like Geddy's voice, because of its uniqueness. And I can't really imagine anyone else singing those songs. So I know where your coming from jbybj, but he really has grown on me and now he is one of my main idols in all of bass playing. | ||
| dtrice
Junior Username: dtrice Post Number: 42 Registered: 10-2006 |
Oh yeah Bee, I did more reading and Geddy did own at least one Jazz at the time of the Permanent Waves tour. But he did now own it at the time of the Hemispheres tour. I'll look for more detailed information. Don't get me wrong he is so good that he can make any bass sound awesome. But I think that the Rickenbackers (especially) and the Wals were the best tones for the music. The Jazzes are great because they are very versitile passive basses and are much more comfortable to play than the Ricks (that's what my right hand tells me). So I believe that has something to do with why he now favors the Jazzes. | ||
| dannobasso
Senior Member Username: dannobasso Post Number: 518 Registered: 3-2004 |
I always dug Geddy's voice. I had to cover quite a few Rush tunes in my day ala Geddy. Sing, play bass and play Taurus2 and or Roland PK5 pedals. It's a lot of fun and surprisingly easy for me to nail, considering I have a Tate, Lake, Wetton regular voice. Now the late Brad Delp was too high to go even in falsetto. I always picture the Ric when I listen to Rush. On the Rio DVD the Jazz looks odd to me though I do remember his teardrop bass from the ATWAS album I bought in Canada on Anthem Records while on an exchange trip in high school in 81. Co'mon didn't you want to run around on plush white carpeting like them barefoot? I know I did. | ||
| jbybj
Member Username: jbybj Post Number: 66 Registered: 6-2006 |
Daniel, I admit that Geddy Lee's recorded vocals are not always annoying, but that live mix, I have never heard anything like it before or since. Granted, the FOH engineer was probably mixing through a steep cocaine curve, which always produces a shrill result. I wince just thinking about it, 30 years ago........ | ||
| dtrice
Junior Username: dtrice Post Number: 44 Registered: 10-2006 |
Haha. You and Danny can tell those good stories about life and music in the 70's, but I wasn't alive yet. I can definately appreciate what your saying though. By the way Danno, I'm actually interested in some bass pedals. Do you recommend any current models? (Taurus are hard to find, expensive, and require a good amount of upkeep) | ||
| dannobasso
Senior Member Username: dannobasso Post Number: 520 Registered: 3-2004 |
I have 2 sets of Roland PK5's, one with roadcase. Modules roland jv 1010 and korg N1R. Check current prices and make me an offer if you would like. The pk5 is an easy to use trigger unit. You need an external sound source. At one time I had the Taurus 2's with a PK5 mounted on top triggering a half space roland unit I can't remember the name of (MT?) with Juno 106 and Moog Source on an Invisible rack. Way over the top for original gigs. Now no one will let me bring them on a gig! jbybj, I'm sure the lens horns didn't help combined with super tweets. Everyone is completely free and entitled to what their ears tell them. I would never argue that point at all. What about Zebra? | ||
| dtrice
Junior Username: dtrice Post Number: 46 Registered: 10-2006 |
Roland Mt-32 module? I am interested in your PK5's. I'd probably prefer the one in the road case, for the obvious protection. List on a new PK5 is $500, and they retail between $4-450.I'd also be interested in the jv 1010. I looked at what other owners have paid for the JV 1010 and that was between $100-179. So with that in consideration do you think you would be interested with possibly parting with them and for what price? I won't tell you I'm ready to buy right now because I'm a little behind on some bills. Over the course of the summer I will be able to catch up quickly. But I'd definately be interested, because bands I usually play with could benefit from the strings or brass sounds I could get with the pedals. And a bonus would be I could do more accurate Rush covers which are always fun. | ||
| dannobasso
Senior Member Username: dannobasso Post Number: 524 Registered: 3-2004 |
I found the mt32 after all these years. I'm sure the stuff will be here when you are ready. The road case set is a little rough looking and needs to be cleaned up but still works. The road case will accomodate the pedals cables and module. All in a yellow-easy-to-be-seen roadcase by Calzone. If you want it all for $300 plus shipping I'll throw in the mt32 as well. I'm going to keep my studio set and other modules for when the Subdivisions urge hits me. Used to do a great version of Touch and Go and Alaska in an ELP type band. No black basses then! | ||
| dtrice
Junior Username: dtrice Post Number: 48 Registered: 10-2006 |
So the $300 include a PK5 + case + the necessary cables. Is the JV 1010 for sale? Do you prefer to run them through the P.A. usually or a separate miced amp? | ||
| dtrice
Junior Username: dtrice Post Number: 49 Registered: 10-2006 |
Sorry for double post. (Message edited by dtrice on April 23, 2007) | ||
| dannobasso
Senior Member Username: dannobasso Post Number: 525 Registered: 3-2004 |
pk5 case jv1010 mt32 $300. I always ran them into the korg multi channel tuner, theninto the 2nd input of the f1x and blended the sounds. Soundman got one line out of the f1x. | ||
| dtrice
Member Username: dtrice Post Number: 51 Registered: 10-2006 |
Cool, cool. Do you think you could set something up through paypal? Maybe with pics. That would be cool. | ||
| dannobasso
Senior Member Username: dannobasso Post Number: 526 Registered: 3-2004 |
I don't use paypal. A check or money order is just fine with me. I have to get it all together and weighed. It won't be light. I'll try to get some pics and send them to you via email. BTW the pedals will also run on a 9volt battery for a reasonable amount of time. Better than using a power supply on gigs. Still getting back to normal after the rain so I hope you're not in a rush. | ||
| dtrice
Member Username: dtrice Post Number: 53 Registered: 10-2006 |
Oh I understand. I'll be running it from an external source for reliable power. I was wondering why you don't use paypal? I prefer it for the insurance it provides, because I was looking to use a credit card. But, if you can send me pics that would be cool. | ||
| blazer
Intermediate Member Username: blazer Post Number: 150 Registered: 12-2003 |
Okay we all know that Geddy had Two Rickenbacker 4080 double necks: a Jetglo 4080/12 which was modified with Gibson Humbuckers in the guitar section and a Leo Quann Badass bridge in the bass section. The second one was a mapleglo 4080 with the same mods used presumably as a spare. The Jetglo 4080/12 was donated to a museum but the mapleglo apparently never left Geddy's posession. http://www.globalbass.com/archives/dec2000/geddy_1.gif Look closely behind that Ovation accoustic on the far left of the picture. The one reason I can think of why Geddy didn't take that one out for Rush's recent tours is because it doesn't have the 12 string neck needed for songs like "Xanadu" too bad really, I'm sure a lot of fans would love to see him appear with a rick double neck on stage again. | ||
| glocke
Intermediate Member Username: glocke Post Number: 195 Registered: 9-2002 |
speaking of rush, I never though it would happen...After years of playing grateful dead, phish, MMW and improv based music, last night I jammed with some "Rush Heads", and all these cool tunes came back to me that I learned like 10 years ago...La Villa, cygnus x1, a few others.... I thought Id been burned out on Rush long ago, but it was actually refreshing to play something that is the polar opposite of what Ive been playing (improv based music)....Ill probably take some time out and sit down with some of the more classic rush cd's I have and relearn them.... | ||
| keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin Post Number: 1176 Registered: 12-2002 |
Speaking of "Backline" this is what im thumping thru these days & this S-O-B is powerful!!http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document?cpd=0OEY&doc_id=99371&g=bass&base_pid=482534&index=0 | ||
| trekster
Intermediate Member Username: trekster Post Number: 140 Registered: 7-2004 |
ok, I have a question -- on Snakes and Arrows, the story that Neil has posted on the Rush website says that Ged is using a fretless bass for one of the instrumentals. Anyone have an idea what he is using (brand?). Curious! I love the new album btw. --T | ||
| beelee
Intermediate Member Username: beelee Post Number: 175 Registered: 11-2004 |
a Fender Jaco Pastorius signature bass.........Yes Really !! |
