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glocke
Intermediate Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 197
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 6:57 pm:   Edit Post

I am giving serious thought to getting a Dog, and am looking for any input from people here as to recomendations...

Not real small, not real large, and not a major shedder...Just a medium sized dog that is intelligent, likes to play,can withstand a ten mile day hike, but isnt overly energetic where they are spastic(knows how to be mellow), and is gentle and tolerant of elderly people and children....

Currently, I am looking at yellow labs...They sound like what I am looking for, but so far I have met two...One is a playful dog, but knows how to chill, the other is somewhat of a spaz (likes to jump on people), although I suspect the latter one may be neglected and didnt have good training...

Any thoughts/suggestions?
rraymond
Advanced Member
Username: rraymond

Post Number: 232
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 7:33 pm:   Edit Post

Glocke, look no further. In poll after poll, and for years, labs have been the top dog for families, and for the reasons you mention. Just to make sure, I did a google search on "what are the best dogs for a family." The sites I went to all had labs at the top. I don't currently own a dog, but I remembered that the lab was the numero uno choice forever.

Good luck with the hunt!

Reid
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1338
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 7:46 pm:   Edit Post

Well I think I can give some input here. We have 4 dogs that reside at the Oliver household. 2 Chihuahuas, a Rat terrier and a Golden retriever.

The Chihuahua’s are small but down right mean, a Pit-Bulls mean disposition has nothing on a Chihuahua’s. The Rat Terrier is a med-small dog, very tame and docile. But they are a little moody sometimes but not in a hostile way, more of a melancholy way.
But the best is the Golden Retriever. She’s very smart, fairly large and very friendly.

I think if you go with a Lab, Retriever or even an Irish setter. These are all very good family pets.

One thing to keep in mind is the short haired dogs to tend to shed more than the longer hair dogs.

Olie
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1339
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 7:58 pm:   Edit Post

Here ya' go. Eates very little , hardly ever barks and never, I mean NEVER ever shapoopoo's in the house.
Please Greg take me home!
flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 1506
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 8:58 pm:   Edit Post

get a mutt mix puppy and save a life.
less medical breed issues too
chuck
Intermediate Member
Username: chuck

Post Number: 127
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 9:27 pm:   Edit Post

Agree with above.Rescue a lab or lab mix female puppy and have the best of both worlds.Great home defenders to.
Chuck
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 545
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 2:59 am:   Edit Post

Ollie is on the right track. Sony makes a lovely robotic dog. Just as costly as an organic but without the ongoing investment and hygiene issues. OTOH I always thought Chow Chows were cool looking.
the_mule
Senior Member
Username: the_mule

Post Number: 662
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 3:09 am:   Edit Post

My top dog: English Cocker Spaniel
Great dogs, very friendly and faithful.
Friends for life...

Wilfred
glocke
Intermediate Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 198
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 4:36 am:   Edit Post

actually I am giving serious thought to a pound dog or a rescue dog, but part of the issue is I will soon be having my elderly mother living with me, and since the dog would be a daytime companion for her, thats why I would kind of like to stick with a breed known for its intelligence, tolerance and gentleness....
georgie_boy
Advanced Member
Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 228
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 5:44 am:   Edit Post

The Golden Retriever!!!
They are the ultimate companion & friend. Clever, caring & so affectionate.
You will never regret it

G
flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 1507
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 6:33 am:   Edit Post

glocke
that leaves out cannus georgus bushis!
bracheen
Senior Member
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 1214
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 7:33 am:   Edit Post

All the above are good recommendations. Another one that meets your criteria, especially non shedding is the Airedale. Very smart, loyal, low maintenance, and just a bit smaller than the Lab. Any dog without training can be a spaz. The most gentle dog I've ever had was an Irish Wolfhound but probably a little bigger than you're looking for. Another rule of thumb to keep in mind is the larger the dog, the shorter the life span generally speaking.
Sam
olieoliver
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Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1340
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 8:12 am:   Edit Post

My Golden retriever is actually a retreiver/ chow mix. And she is smart as a whip.

You may even think of a Blue Heeler. Probably the smartest breed I've ever seen.
Check this dog out
tom_z
Senior Member
Username: tom_z

Post Number: 526
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post

Greg - I can't say enough about Labs. They are very sweet and gentle. Also, I'll second the idea that any dog that is not exercised and cared for properly can be pretty wild. Here are a couple of pix of our current Lab, Harry - he's over 10 years old now and very mellow. Incidentally, he's been at the Alembic shop where Susan, Mica, and Mary were so good to him.

Harry

... and in his favorite position. :-)

Harry 2

Peace
Tom
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 759
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 1:12 pm:   Edit Post

What about a Springer Spaniel? Mid-sized and pretty good personalty.

I will also suggest mixed breeds. My dog through high school was a German Shepard and Collie mix. He was one of the most well natured and easily trained dogs I've owned. He had the build of a Shepard but the coloring of a Collie.

Then there are the various Retrievers as has been suggested. I've owned a Golden Retriever. A great people dog but Rusty never quite learned we are boring if you get my drift.

Remember that most any dog is still an adolescent for a the first few years. The real mellowing takes place after this and training is very important.

Keith
2400wattman
Advanced Member
Username: 2400wattman

Post Number: 361
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 2:19 pm:   Edit Post

My wife's dog is still a goof at around 10 ten yrs. old. she's a mix breed(my wife knows, I don't) that's fun, playful and sensitive to her surroundings. Our Basset Hound passed this past Sunday(my wife had him for about 15 yrs.) and it seemed Trinity knew what had happened as she was sullen for most of the day. Good loyal dog though.
tbrannon
Senior Member
Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 422
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 8:42 pm:   Edit Post

Glocke-
Speaking from experience: Be careful with the mixes. My wife and I got our first dog at the humane society. Cute little puppy that was labeled 'lab mix'- she was incredibly friendly and was a great dog for about 7 months. As she grew, we started to see what the other part of the 'mix' was. Pit bull. Her head shape changed as she grew and unfortunately, so did her temperment. She began barking aggressively at children and had a run at the Gas and Electric guy. After one more incident, we chose to have her put down rather than have her get loose and maul some other pet or a small child. It was a very tough decision and one I wish we had never been forced to make.

We've picked up our last 2 dogs at the humane society as well, but have been very very selective. There are tons of great dogs there and I'm not trying to scare you off, just be careful with what you get.
alemberic
Junior
Username: alemberic

Post Number: 47
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 9:39 pm:   Edit Post

I would heartily endorse a golden retriever. They are very even-tempered, great around all ages of people, loyal, affectionate, and very intelligent, as well as easy to train. Although not especially noted for being watchdogs, they are very protective of family, as well as alert to what's going on around them. They're not too big, not too small. I had a female who had a very deep, attention-getting bark whenever anyone came to the door, but she was not actually aggressive towards people--a pretty good combination.

Eric
trekster
Intermediate Member
Username: trekster

Post Number: 142
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 5:15 am:   Edit Post

well, this is a bit on the small side for what you are looking for, but my particular favorite is the Bischon Frise. Think of it as a small poodle without the poodle attitude. Extremely intellegent, an absolute whore for attention (giving and receiving), and hype-allergenic -- they have hair, not fur and do not shed!! My kid is extremely allergic to dogs, yet this one he mauls.. and the dog just comes back for more.

--T
flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 1510
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 5:41 am:   Edit Post

get a cat
lowlife
Advanced Member
Username: lowlife

Post Number: 268
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 7:44 am:   Edit Post

Flax, I couldn't agree more; cats rule. Even though I own two dogs (a Bichon Frise and a Polish Lowland Sheepdog) this is my pet of choice. When I think of senior management, this is what comes to mind.

Senior Management
glocke
Intermediate Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 199
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 7:59 am:   Edit Post

cats are cool...but I am highly allergic to them..a few hours exposre is fine, but any more than that and Im in agony...

besides, I need a buddy I can take on long hikes and camping trips
flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 1511
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 8:06 am:   Edit Post

take a look at irish setters
i have one and she is smart, great with kids and will play ball til she has a stroke.
lowlife
Advanced Member
Username: lowlife

Post Number: 269
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 8:09 am:   Edit Post

Greg,

I hear you. F.Y.I., I am violently allergic to both cats and dogs. The ones that I've chosen do not seem (thankfully) to affect me. She likes to walk on a leash with the dogs but I've never taken her camping.

Go with Labs or Retrievers.

Ellery (Lowlife)
pas
Member
Username: pas

Post Number: 87
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 3:27 pm:   Edit Post

My rule of thumb: If it can't stand on it's hind legs & look me straight in the eye, it's not a dog.

This of course coming from someone who's had 2 St. Bernards...
rraymond
Advanced Member
Username: rraymond

Post Number: 241
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post

There's a rule I can understand! I used to have Russian Wolfhounds. Somewhere around here is a picture of one of them, at 1 & 1/2 years old, up on his hind legs, paws on my shoulders, looking DOWN at me. Good thing he was a loveable old goof!
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 1170
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 4:43 am:   Edit Post

If you have allergy issues, get a snake;-)
floyd

graeme
georgie_boy
Advanced Member
Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 229
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 7:00 am:   Edit Post

Graeme
Have you got a Boa at home??
I used to have one when I lived in London.

G
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 1172
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 7:02 am:   Edit Post

Certainly do. He's currently around 9feet long and stronger than me. Also have a royal python (Ball python for our US chums) and a corn snake.
Even more reason for you to come round.

graeme
rraymond
Advanced Member
Username: rraymond

Post Number: 245
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 7:28 am:   Edit Post

When I was in high school, I worked in a pet shop. We sold snakes, boas mostly, and though I wasn't afraid of them, I could never really "cozy up" to them as it were.

We had gotten a new shipment in and had an ad the the paper for our new 3 foot boas. This woman calls our manager and asks if she could trade her boa for one of ours. At 5 feet, her snake was getting a little bit difficult to handle. My manager said sure, bring your snake in, and if it's healthy, we'll trade.

The woman shows up a couple of hours later with the boa wrapped around her. Now, as a sheltered suburbanite teenager, I hadn't seen women like this before; she was very interesting, in a gaudy, brightly dressed sort of way. And the snake matched her, having a streak of hot pink lipstick about 6 inches long along on its top side!

Enjoy!

Reid
lowlife
Advanced Member
Username: lowlife

Post Number: 270
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 8:00 am:   Edit Post

I'm just waiting to see how much longer it will take for this thread to get skewed enough for someone to post "beer" as their pet of choice. :-)
I've begged for beer, but can you imagine a beer begging for you?

Okay, I'll take the pink pill now and get back to work.

Ellery (Lowlife)
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 1173
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 8:04 am:   Edit Post

Ok Ellery. In the North east of england, newcastle brown ale is known as a bottle of dog, possibly because the drinker would tell his wife he was taking the dog for a walk when in reality he was off to the pub. Due to its strength, it's also known as 'journey into space' after the radio programme.

hope this has left the thread suitably skewed. Can't think how to intoduce bikes though ;-)

Graeme
bracheen
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Username: bracheen

Post Number: 1216
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post

rraymond
Advanced Member
Username: rraymond

Post Number: 248
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 5:28 pm:   Edit Post

Dogs? Beers? How about...

HOD

Woof!
bassjigga
Advanced Member
Username: bassjigga

Post Number: 211
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 9:21 pm:   Edit Post

Get a border collie! Great dogs. Medium size. Very intelligent. Very athletic. Playful fun dog. Good lookin. I love em.
glocke
Advanced Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 201
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 3:05 am:   Edit Post

yeah, they are actually on my list...where I work there is an outfit called "geese police" that comes on to chase the geese away, and they use border collies....great looking dogs...
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 1175
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 3:13 am:   Edit Post

Alot of the farmers over here use flocks of geese or ducks to train their border collies instead of using sheep. It's pretty funny when you see them demonstrating at highland shows. My uncle had a couple of BCs that were worked really hard but always seemed to have more energy in reserve so be prepared to get alot of exercise yourself ;-)

Graeme
57basstra
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Username: 57basstra

Post Number: 638
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 4:21 am:   Edit Post

lowlife
Advanced Member
Username: lowlife

Post Number: 271
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 5:55 am:   Edit Post

Closely related ( or so I'm told) to the B.C. is the P.O.N. (Polish Lowland Sheepdog). Males are about 40 pounds, females about 15% less, very agile, great memory (pattern recognition), good companion, very territorial. Check out http://www.cponc.com for more info.
Farley
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 1176
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 6:04 am:   Edit Post

Ellery, that looks more like an old English sheepdog. This is a border collie..
collie

graeme
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 1177
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 6:07 am:   Edit Post

Here's an old english sheepdog..

sheepdog

Graeme
lowlife
Advanced Member
Username: lowlife

Post Number: 272
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 6:21 am:   Edit Post

Graeme you right, I'm thinking of another dog that may have a name similar to the border collie, looks like a sheep dog, and has a long fan tail but is less than half of the size of a standard sheep dog. Also used (at some point) in northern England as drover dogs, but apparently the name escapes me for the moment.

Ellery (Lowlife)

(Message edited by lowlife on May 25, 2007)
speicky
Advanced Member
Username: speicky

Post Number: 209
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 6:42 am:   Edit Post

my wife is serious about adopting a Shiba-Inu...

lowlife
Advanced Member
Username: lowlife

Post Number: 273
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 7:03 am:   Edit Post

Christian, all I can say is Wow! What a pose, what sharp looking dog. I'll bet that he could probably chase that stick all day long and not get tired. Just hope that the stick doesn't turn out to be the neck of one of your bases (LOL).

Ellery (Lowlife)
son_of_magni
Advanced Member
Username: son_of_magni

Post Number: 231
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 5:23 pm:   Edit Post

All my neighbors have dogs. Most of them tie them up outside and they stand there barking all day long. What is wrong with these people?

And yes, I am also a cat person :-)
keavin
Senior Member
Username: keavin

Post Number: 1196
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 9:33 am:   Edit Post

My alembic's Keeper!.........."MR.Rotten Weiler"!

(Message edited by keavin on May 27, 2007)
keavin
Senior Member
Username: keavin

Post Number: 1197
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 9:53 am:   Edit Post

keavin
Senior Member
Username: keavin

Post Number: 1198
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post

I not only have dogs,,,,,,,,I have Mice Too!
lowlife
Advanced Member
Username: lowlife

Post Number: 274
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 4:05 am:   Edit Post

Graeme, I figured out where I messed up. When I saw the initials B.C., I didn't pay attention to the words "Border Collie" that were associated with the initials. I was thinking of the "Bearded Collie, which happens to have the same initials, and yes, does look like a sheep dog.
Sorry for the confusion.

Ellery (Lowlife) Beardie
cozmik_cowboy
Intermediate Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 147
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 9:35 am:   Edit Post

Border Collies are great - if you have sheep, or some other task to keep them busy at all times. I've had a Collie, a Huskie-Samoyid mix, a Black Lab-Irish Setter mix, a Samoyid-Shepard mix, a Black Lab-something-or-other mix, and the wife & kids had a nasty little Miniature Schnauzer (what a rat). My current companion is a registered Golden Retriever, and I would never again consider another breed. She is the Platonic Idea of Dog!

Peter

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