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keavin
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Username: keavin

Post Number: 1301
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 4:47 am:   Edit Post

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I4HnTSYvJWc&feature=related
artswork99
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Username: artswork99

Post Number: 238
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 5:44 am:   Edit Post

Nice... I'd like to see his left hand technique as well.
alembic76407
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Username: alembic76407

Post Number: 548
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 6:09 am:   Edit Post

that's sick, and I bet he can't stay in a band,

most guitar players don't like to be upstaged
2400wattman
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Username: 2400wattman

Post Number: 478
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 7:17 am:   Edit Post

"most guitar players don't like to be upstaged"
maybe 15-20 years ago, nowadays most guitarists I see are pretty lame ducks. They look like a fence post with a tool strapped around them and play like it too!
I do agree about him probably not being able to stay in a band. Guys like this tend to do their own thing(in ways I can't blame them) or practice so much they don't ever get in a band.
olieoliver
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Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1649
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 7:26 am:   Edit Post

He does have some good chops. I'd like to hear him in a band setting.

Reminds me of a drummer we had back in the 90's. He played and AWESOME solo, but man was his timing terrible. He always seemed to veer toward the same tempo. The slow tunes would speed up and the fast ones would slow down.

Olie
willgunn
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Username: willgunn

Post Number: 17
Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post

"NAMM-Show Chops"! I rest my case.
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 374
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 1:06 pm:   Edit Post

John Lennon oncesaid to Tony Levin 'You won't play loads of notes will you??'
Less is more but that was fun to watch, I agree with artswork99..need to see the other hand too.
With 6 strings I guess you have to use them all at some point.
Still awesome..wish I could do it(envy envy)
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5743
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 5:55 pm:   Edit Post

Here is the other hand.
olieoliver
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Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1650
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 6:56 pm:   Edit Post

The cat is good, no doubt about it.

That's what I like about youtube, cats you would've never even heard of before can be heard around the world.

I enjoyed both videos, thanks Keavin and Dave.
Olie
artswork99
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Username: artswork99

Post Number: 239
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 7:16 pm:   Edit Post

Dave, Thanks for the pointer to a demonstration on this cats left hand.
alembic_doctor
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Username: alembic_doctor

Post Number: 372
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 9:18 pm:   Edit Post

------ ------





[moderator's edit: Doc, I hope you don't mind, but I've edited your post as I believe it could be easily misconstrued, in a manner that I'm fairly certain you did not intend, by members of our club]

(Message edited by davehouck on December 05, 2007)
byoung
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Username: byoung

Post Number: 852
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 8:53 am:   Edit Post

I thought that was Italian.

Definitely not German.
olieoliver
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Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1651
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 8:58 am:   Edit Post

I thought he was playing in Enlgish. :-)

(Message edited by olieoliver on December 05, 2007)
alembic_doctor
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Username: alembic_doctor

Post Number: 373
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 9:51 am:   Edit Post

---- WANKER

And No, for the record, I certainly cannot play any better. But I still say he is a wanker.

Here are the best two hands I've seen in some time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6c1Z8RTx_w



[moderator's edit: Doc, I've edited your post for content that could be misconstrued by members of our club]

(Message edited by davehouck on December 05, 2007)
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 385
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 6:57 am:   Edit Post

You know it doesn't matter if you can play a zillion notes a second or one..as long as you are playing what you want.
olieoliver
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Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1653
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 7:06 am:   Edit Post

Amen to that Terry.
spose
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Username: spose

Post Number: 158
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 7:24 am:   Edit Post

any idea what those things are stuck to the upper horn on the bass?
811952
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Username: 811952

Post Number: 1244
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 7:30 am:   Edit Post

It would be nice to hear how he plays when he's not giving a lesson/demonstration. Incredible chops and mastery of the physical instrument, for sure, but I don't think either of these videos is meant to capture the essence of his musicianship (which may or may not be very listenable).

John
white_cloud
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Username: white_cloud

Post Number: 93
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 7:50 am:   Edit Post

I have said it before and I will say it again..simple lines played well, and with a nice tone, are just as good as bass gymnastics!!

There are sssssso many guys people out there nowadays playing with incredible chops and I am absolutly fine with that. Good luck to them.

Personally speaking though..I get really bored listening to this kind of stuff for more than ten minutes! I would much rather listen to someone like Jimmy Johnson playing tastefully within a band, but thats just my opinion!
811952
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Username: 811952

Post Number: 1245
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 8:09 am:   Edit Post

Me too. We don't know that this guy doesn't lay down a groove when he's playing in a band setting. Jimmy Johnson can be equally technically incredible, and if he were posting vids on youtube as an unknown (and similar context) I would hope to see some of those fireworks.

I enjoyed the comping with chords from the link Dave posted. In a small group setting (bass, drums, piano, or bass, drums and sax, for instance), some of this is not bad. Not my thing by any stretch of the imagination, but not inherently bad.

Let's not crucify this guy just because his fingers fly with accuracy.. ;)

John
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5755
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 8:11 am:   Edit Post

John; here he is in a different setting.
white_cloud
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Username: white_cloud

Post Number: 94
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 8:41 am:   Edit Post

Yes, thats great Dave! I like that.

Im not disrespecting him or saying he cant lay down a groove or fit into a band sceanario..for me I just prefer listening to him doing his thing in the band!

Its all about the music for me. I posted a discussion a while back on the forum.."Technique versus feel" and I guess I summed up my point of view by saying "whos music touched more people, Steve Vai or John Lennon?"

That sums it up for me. I have to say though that brilliance and touching compositions can be married together. I cant think of anyone elses compositions that touch me more than Allan Holdsworth! Technique and feel blended perfectly!
811952
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Username: 811952

Post Number: 1246
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post

Good find, Dave!
keavin
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Username: keavin

Post Number: 1308
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 6:42 pm:   Edit Post

WOW!!!!http://squarepusher.net/
darkstar01
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Username: darkstar01

Post Number: 93
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post

yeah, squarepusher is a whole other thing. i didnt even know he played bass until his latest record. he's an avant garde dj who isn't afraid to scare the hippie rave type. awesome

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