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keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin
Post Number: 1301 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 4:47 am: | |
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I4HnTSYvJWc&feature=related |
artswork99
Advanced Member Username: artswork99
Post Number: 238 Registered: 7-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 5:44 am: | |
Nice... I'd like to see his left hand technique as well. |
alembic76407
Senior Member Username: alembic76407
Post Number: 548 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 6:09 am: | |
that's sick, and I bet he can't stay in a band, most guitar players don't like to be upstaged |
2400wattman
Senior Member Username: 2400wattman
Post Number: 478 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 7:17 am: | |
"most guitar players don't like to be upstaged" maybe 15-20 years ago, nowadays most guitarists I see are pretty lame ducks. They look like a fence post with a tool strapped around them and play like it too! I do agree about him probably not being able to stay in a band. Guys like this tend to do their own thing(in ways I can't blame them) or practice so much they don't ever get in a band. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1649 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 7:26 am: | |
He does have some good chops. I'd like to hear him in a band setting. Reminds me of a drummer we had back in the 90's. He played and AWESOME solo, but man was his timing terrible. He always seemed to veer toward the same tempo. The slow tunes would speed up and the fast ones would slow down. Olie |
willgunn
Junior Username: willgunn
Post Number: 17 Registered: 2-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 11:29 am: | |
"NAMM-Show Chops"! I rest my case. |
terryc
Advanced Member Username: terryc
Post Number: 374 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 1:06 pm: | |
John Lennon oncesaid to Tony Levin 'You won't play loads of notes will you??' Less is more but that was fun to watch, I agree with artswork99..need to see the other hand too. With 6 strings I guess you have to use them all at some point. Still awesome..wish I could do it(envy envy) |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 5743 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 5:55 pm: | |
Here is the other hand. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1650 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 6:56 pm: | |
The cat is good, no doubt about it. That's what I like about youtube, cats you would've never even heard of before can be heard around the world. I enjoyed both videos, thanks Keavin and Dave. Olie |
artswork99
Advanced Member Username: artswork99
Post Number: 239 Registered: 7-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 7:16 pm: | |
Dave, Thanks for the pointer to a demonstration on this cats left hand. |
alembic_doctor
Advanced Member Username: alembic_doctor
Post Number: 372 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 9:18 pm: | |
------ ------ [moderator's edit: Doc, I hope you don't mind, but I've edited your post as I believe it could be easily misconstrued, in a manner that I'm fairly certain you did not intend, by members of our club] (Message edited by davehouck on December 05, 2007) |
byoung
Senior Member Username: byoung
Post Number: 852 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 8:53 am: | |
I thought that was Italian. Definitely not German. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1651 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 8:58 am: | |
I thought he was playing in Enlgish. (Message edited by olieoliver on December 05, 2007) |
alembic_doctor
Advanced Member Username: alembic_doctor
Post Number: 373 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 9:51 am: | |
---- WANKER And No, for the record, I certainly cannot play any better. But I still say he is a wanker. Here are the best two hands I've seen in some time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6c1Z8RTx_w [moderator's edit: Doc, I've edited your post for content that could be misconstrued by members of our club] (Message edited by davehouck on December 05, 2007) |
terryc
Advanced Member Username: terryc
Post Number: 385 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 6:57 am: | |
You know it doesn't matter if you can play a zillion notes a second or one..as long as you are playing what you want. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1653 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 7:06 am: | |
Amen to that Terry. |
spose
Intermediate Member Username: spose
Post Number: 158 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 7:24 am: | |
any idea what those things are stuck to the upper horn on the bass? |
811952
Senior Member Username: 811952
Post Number: 1244 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 7:30 am: | |
It would be nice to hear how he plays when he's not giving a lesson/demonstration. Incredible chops and mastery of the physical instrument, for sure, but I don't think either of these videos is meant to capture the essence of his musicianship (which may or may not be very listenable). John |
white_cloud
Member Username: white_cloud
Post Number: 93 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 7:50 am: | |
I have said it before and I will say it again..simple lines played well, and with a nice tone, are just as good as bass gymnastics!! There are sssssso many guys people out there nowadays playing with incredible chops and I am absolutly fine with that. Good luck to them. Personally speaking though..I get really bored listening to this kind of stuff for more than ten minutes! I would much rather listen to someone like Jimmy Johnson playing tastefully within a band, but thats just my opinion! |
811952
Senior Member Username: 811952
Post Number: 1245 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 8:09 am: | |
Me too. We don't know that this guy doesn't lay down a groove when he's playing in a band setting. Jimmy Johnson can be equally technically incredible, and if he were posting vids on youtube as an unknown (and similar context) I would hope to see some of those fireworks. I enjoyed the comping with chords from the link Dave posted. In a small group setting (bass, drums, piano, or bass, drums and sax, for instance), some of this is not bad. Not my thing by any stretch of the imagination, but not inherently bad. Let's not crucify this guy just because his fingers fly with accuracy.. ;) John |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 5755 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 8:11 am: | |
John; here he is in a different setting. |
white_cloud
Member Username: white_cloud
Post Number: 94 Registered: 11-2007
| Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 8:41 am: | |
Yes, thats great Dave! I like that. Im not disrespecting him or saying he cant lay down a groove or fit into a band sceanario..for me I just prefer listening to him doing his thing in the band! Its all about the music for me. I posted a discussion a while back on the forum.."Technique versus feel" and I guess I summed up my point of view by saying "whos music touched more people, Steve Vai or John Lennon?" That sums it up for me. I have to say though that brilliance and touching compositions can be married together. I cant think of anyone elses compositions that touch me more than Allan Holdsworth! Technique and feel blended perfectly! |
811952
Senior Member Username: 811952
Post Number: 1246 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 11:34 am: | |
Good find, Dave! |
keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin
Post Number: 1308 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 6:42 pm: | |
WOW!!!!http://squarepusher.net/ |
darkstar01
Member Username: darkstar01
Post Number: 93 Registered: 6-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 10:25 pm: | |
yeah, squarepusher is a whole other thing. i didnt even know he played bass until his latest record. he's an avant garde dj who isn't afraid to scare the hippie rave type. awesome |