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kungfusheriff
Senior Member
Username: kungfusheriff

Post Number: 656
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 9:45 am:   Edit Post

Hey, all
I'm thinking about jumping on a for-sale post at another forum, for a BE D-10X, but wanted to collect some opinions here first.
The cab is the 12" deep, coaxial speaker model.
While I imagine the tone will work well with my Series 2s, considering how many here seem to swear by BE cabs, I'm concerned about stage volume.
The seller tells me that the cab will not be nearly as loud as my current rig, which is two EVB 15s in BE S-15D cabs powered by a Walter Woods stereo head that pushes 150W at 4 Ohms. The Woods cannot push a 2-Ohm load, so if I pick up the D-10 I would be using it alone for practice and low-volume gigs, and reserving the 15s for loud gigs.
Does this sound like a wise course of action, or am I letting my yen for a new toy cloud my better judgment? Real-world experiences with this cab will be read with great interest.
Thank you,
KFS
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 975
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post

I use the D10BX-D and D10B-D. Overall I like both cabinets and find that one works well for low volume jazz or acoustic gigs. For higher volume gigs I find it best to pair the D10 with a sub and for really loud I take two subs and both D10's. In all cases the cabinet sounds very hi-fi to me. If this is what you are looking for then it should do you well.

The seller statement that the D10 won't be as loud as your current rig is correct.

As to your question of whether this is a good idea or not?. As a Gear'aholic I think you are asking the wrong audience. :-) How can I respond with anything other than go for it! In all seriousness you appear to have a handle on where you will get the best performance for the cabinet so I don't think you will be disappointed should you decide to buy it.

Keith
dela217
Senior Member
Username: dela217

Post Number: 884
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 4:18 pm:   Edit Post

I owned one, but it was the 18" deep one. GREAT cab! Not sure about the shallow one, but I would think it would not have as much low end as the deeper one. The one I had was paired with an F2B and a QSC RMX1450. Really great, full hi-fi tone as stated by Keith. I got more compliments on my tone from this setup than anything else. I would still have it, but the Katrina flood ruined that rig. I repalced it with a smaller Eden setup. What a mistake. I will someday go back to that very same rig.
matthew90046
Junior
Username: matthew90046

Post Number: 42
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 9:12 am:   Edit Post

I had that exact cab. They are hard to find as they were not made for very long. Very easy to lift for 80 lbs because you can hold the cab close to the body compared to deeper cabs. I used mine with a SWR SM-900 pushing 700 watts bridged mono at 8 ohms and still could have used more power. It is a perfect fit for low to mid volume gigs.

They sound great, clear and balanced, but I wanted to get more boom from my bass so I got an old SUNN 2x15 cab and got rid of the SWR for a F-1X.
82daion
Intermediate Member
Username: 82daion

Post Number: 131
Registered: 5-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post

I have the Q10X-D, which is the 4X10 of the same series, and it's got plenty of cut, but if you're looking for deep bass response, these cabs aren't for you. The low end is merely sufficient, and the tonal emphasis of the cab lies more in the midrange.

That said, the tone I get with my Series I through my GK 1001RB into this cab is really tight and punchy, and it's great for cutting through a mix. I found the high end to be too harsh with the tweeter connected, so I disconnected it, but your mileage may vary.

To answer your question, it would probably work fine for the gigs you describe, but so would a single 15. If I were in your situation, I'd invest in a different cab unless the price was too good to pass up.
kungfusheriff
Senior Member
Username: kungfusheriff

Post Number: 658
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 7:44 am:   Edit Post

Hey, guys. Thanks for the input.
The seller's asking price is fair, not great, and a lot of my motivation has to do with the fact that I'm getting tired of the same-old-thing speaker-wise, tired of lugging two cabs to achieve a 4-ohm load on the amp, and concerned about one of my speakers breaking up badly at medium volume.
While I don't need massive volume or low end that will vibrate the pictures off the walls, I do need to keep up with a full drum kit and my guitar players' 12" tube combos and be able to get a sound that represents the full frequency spectrum of the Series bass. Am I on the right track, or no?
matthew90046
Junior
Username: matthew90046

Post Number: 43
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 8:46 am:   Edit Post

Kungfusheriff,

Ignore my previous post. I thought you were taking about the 4x10 Q10BX not the 2x10. I do not think that the 2x10 alone will be able to compete with a drummer to your satisfaction.
glocke
Advanced Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 337
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 1:51 pm:   Edit Post

I have two BE 15" cabs. S15D and an S15BD. To my ears, each one is able to a nice, tight full spectrum sound. The smaller of the two (S15D), really puts out an impressive sound for a single 15" cabs. I have no problems keeping up with drummers or guitar players with either cab.

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