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terryc
Senior Member Username: terryc
Post Number: 481 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 3:39 am: | |
OKay I have these picture frames where a vinyl album fits nicely so I can change them regular with my old collection so today I decide to change them and I dig out 'If This BAss Could Only Talk' and I thought I would give it a listen. Then it struck me after all these years..the two compositions are the same but in different keys. Artistic licence??? Am I the only one or has anyone else noticed this?? |
byoung
Senior Member Username: byoung
Post Number: 1019 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 10:03 am: | |
Huh. The similarity is definitely there. Crazy. I suspect serendipity. |
hieronymous
Advanced Member Username: hieronymous
Post Number: 301 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 4:08 pm: | |
Wait a sec - in the liner notes it refers to the song as one of the "badly needed updates on the 'fusion' genre by one of its founders ('Workin' Man,' a post-Zeppelin version of Stanley's 1974 composition 'Lopsy Lu')..." so it would seem to be intentional. It's not unheard of for an artist or composer to rework one of their compositions and give it a completely different title. The only example I can think of is a tune on King Crimson's Beat album that incorporates part of a song from the Discipline album (but since I don't currently own either on CD I can't look them up...) - not the best example but the only one I can think of right now! |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 6486 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 8:57 am: | |
Another example, Charlie Parker's cover of Cherokee and his later tune Ko-Ko. |
jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee
Post Number: 1166 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 4:00 pm: | |
Bob Marley & The Wailers, Peter Tosh and Bunny Wailer did that on a number of their songs. In fact they did many versions of their older tracks as the years went by. Some even renamed too. Jazzyvee |
lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq
Post Number: 3058 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 5:33 pm: | |
The bridge of "Buffalo Soldiers" has always sounded the same to me as the theme from the old kid's show "The Banana Splits". Bill, tgo |
darkstar01
Intermediate Member Username: darkstar01
Post Number: 112 Registered: 6-2005
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 9:06 pm: | |
if you're going to talk about jazz, the whole idea accounts for a huge part of traditional jazz history. donna lee was back home in indiana, any rhythm changes tune is i got rhythm, 26 -2 is confirmation, countdown is based off of tune up, prince albert is all the things you are. so on and so forth. hence the death of jazz. |
terryc
Senior Member Username: terryc
Post Number: 484 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 8:31 am: | |
Add to that "ornithology" was "how high the moon" I don't jazz has died?? maybe it took a sabbatical but stil enjoyed by everyone |
jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee
Post Number: 1168 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 9:49 am: | |
bill I thought that when I first heard it, and thats what i hear everytime i listen to the track..hahaha. Jazzyvee |
fluke
New Username: fluke
Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 3:55 pm: | |
Jeez,I thought Rush Working Man.NO way.Actually never hear Zep's version,havent been able to find it,yet. |
hieronymous
Advanced Member Username: hieronymous
Post Number: 302 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 5:23 pm: | |
We're talking about a Stanley Clarke tune called "Working Man" that is based on another of his tunes called "Lopsy Lu." The Zeppelin reference is to the style of the new version, not to any song that Zep actually recorded. It's not even a particularly "heavy" version, that's just what the person who wrote the liner notes (Ivan Bodley - never heard of him) came up with. One weird Zep cover I can think of is Frank Zappa playing the riff from "Whole Lotta Love" in the guitar solo called "Duck Duck Goose" from Läther, the complete version being known as "Leather Goods" which also has the riff from "Dazed and Confused" - the reason I bring this all up is because Frank is the one who said, on the classic album Roxy and Elswhere, that "Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny." (Message edited by hieronymous on April 29, 2008) |
darkstar01
Intermediate Member Username: darkstar01
Post Number: 113 Registered: 6-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 11:13 pm: | |
you should hear the Bad Plus play immigrant song. or just anything, because they're pretty much amazing. |