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wibbersengland
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Username: wibbersengland

Post Number: 13
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 2:39 pm:   Edit Post

Probably a really obvious question but why does Stankey use a series 1 and not a series 2? (I guess the 2 x F-1X versus 1 x F2B question/parallel) may answer the question...? and why does he not use an SF2 as well? (is it because he is getting as much tone as he wants already, I guess? cheers...:-) Must say with an F-1X (just got from Ovid - thanks man!) I'm using less eq on the alembic than ever! Mark
glocke
Advanced Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 395
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 4:21 pm:   Edit Post

maybe thats all he can afford??
kenbass4
Advanced Member
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 296
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 4:30 pm:   Edit Post

My guess would be for repeatability. With a Series I, you have a 3 position Q-switch for each filter, so it will be a lot easier to recall a sound then with a CVQ knob. But that's just a guess.

Ken
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 333
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 4:47 pm:   Edit Post

Your post is a little confusing - Series I vs. Series II is a different issue than F-1X vs. F-2B. I remember a thread about why he uses two F-1Xs instead of one F-2B but don't remember why.

The Series II offers more flexibility, but isn't necessarily "better" (there was a thread on this recently), so I'll go with Ken in that for Stanley the Q switch is sufficient and also gives the consistency from show to show.
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 5408
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 2:27 pm:   Edit Post

Master volume on a Series II is in his line of fire from his right hand. You'll see a little inlay on his Dragon Breath bass later where the master volume used to be. He likes the CVQ controls alot.

He uses 2 F-1X preamps since he needs direct outputs from each channel and he also uses the effects loop. The F-2B lacks these features.

We recently made some custom preamps for Stan that he's using on the current RTF tour. I'll dig up the details and post them soon. One preview is that we made a wet/dry mix for the effects loop.
0vid
Intermediate Member
Username: 0vid

Post Number: 147
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 3:48 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Mark W,

Glad you like the F-1X. I still have one in my main rack. My newly acquired Read Purity arrived with damaged tubes. Got them sorted and it works fine now; I like it a lot too, different to the Demeter and F-1X in flavour.

I'll be in London next Monday to see RTF, might bring some binos to scope out these custom preamps Mica's on about. I suppose you'll be there.
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 5412
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 4:26 pm:   Edit Post

Here's the input section of the customized preamp:
stan's preamp
This is what he used for the treble channel. For the bass channel, there is a jumper cable from "TO BASS CHANNEL" to the input of the mostly standard F-1X mounted below this one.

He can plug 2 Alembic Series I basses in and another bass (either stereo or mono) in the 1/4" input. He uses the standby function on the Alembics if he wants to use another bass in the 1/4", then he needs to select mono or stereo for the 1/4" input function.

Since he doesn't use the crossover, we replaced the HF control with a wet/dry mix for the the effects loop so he can use just the amount of the effector units that he wants.

There's also a dedicated tuner output on the back.

From the reports I received through his tech, Stanley is totally loving the new preamps and it's simplified greatly what he needs to travel with. Now he can bring the small rackmount stuff in the cabin when he flies - it's amazing how often baggage is either delayed or lost when you travel alot. This setup removes that worry.
hieronymous
Advanced Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 334
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 4:30 pm:   Edit Post

WOW! Thanks Mica for the behind-the-scenes look!
tbrannon
Senior Member
Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 827
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post

Too cool. Thanks Mica!
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6800
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 5:31 pm:   Edit Post

Mica said "now he can bring the small rackmount stuff in the cabin when he flies".

Yes, once the seatbelt light goes out, I can certainly see where pulling out and playing through the small rackmount stuff would make the flight more enjoyable.
byoung
Senior Member
Username: byoung

Post Number: 1060
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 5:52 pm:   Edit Post

Mica,

This leads to a thought that I've had for a long time: why no series plug on the preamps?

I know it would simplify my life.

Bradley
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6802
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 6:56 pm:   Edit Post

Bradley, I think this has been discussed before, and it seems to me that maybe it had something to do with isolating the transformer from the rest of the circuitry.

And then there's the cost. Lots of people use F-1X's that don't need the extra cost of the DS-5 parts.

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