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alembic76407
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Post Number: 573
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Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 5:39 am:   Edit Post

Paul Mccartney spent the night Here in Oklahoma City Tuesday night, he and his new girl friend are taking a road trip down route 66 driving a 89 Ford Bronco
terryc
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Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 7:57 am:   Edit Post

Hope he has learned his lesson from his last relationship
olieoliver
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Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 8:19 am:   Edit Post

Sure it wasn't O.J.

OO
white_cloud
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Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 8:53 am:   Edit Post

Im a fan of the musician/songwriter/composer - but not a fan of the man!

He is his own biggest fan anyway so Im sure he wont lose any sleep over my opinion!

Sir? well I dont go in for all that stuff..some of the greatest, heroic people I have ever known have carried out real acts of humanity in the shadow of anominity - just the way they wanted!!

John.
georgie_boy
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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 8:45 am:   Edit Post

Well said John!!!!
lbpesq
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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post

At the recent Guitar Show here in the Bay Area, one booth was selling a shirt that read, on the front: "The Beatles are dying in the order of coolness." Printed on the back was "saveringo.com" Admittedly a little macabre, but funny!

Bill, tgo
811952
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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post

Too funny! :-) I recall The Onion ran the headline "Ringo Next" when George (RIP) passed. :P

Now matter how much of an a$$ Paul might make of himself, there is no denying that he changed the world with his music.

John
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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 1:35 pm:   Edit Post

Paul is one very talented individual and the man,he has always been tops on my list. As far as his ego or the opinion he has of himself,I could'ld say,but that much money I imagine would change anyone! Sir Paul!? That one kinda got me.He did have a part in a lot of change and is an icon but Sir!Ofcourse the Beatles truely did start an evolution.Lennon seemed to be the stand out at fitst.Maybe thats when the break up actually started way back then. I think him traveling incognito is a good try but it'll never work!
811952
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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 7:59 pm:   Edit Post

I'm guessing he's sans hairpiece and probably doesn't look at all like the Macca we know and love...
garethnh
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 2:40 am:   Edit Post

He wear's a syrup?!?! ;-)
cozmik_cowboy
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post

Everything Paul has done since he quit the band has been another step to cementing his place in history as the least of the Beatles. Whether they die in order of coolness or of talent, Mr. Shears has nothing to worry about.

Peter
j_gary
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 4:06 pm:   Edit Post

Yikes! Rough crowd! Perhaps we should have more respect for our elders. Yet, I do the same thing to the dinosaurs at work.

Not a big PM fan since he left the "boys", but I would argue without him the Beatles would not have done a thing. He was the one doing the PITA talking and negotiating with the band and their contacts to get things done. John was too wild, George too young, Ringo too late.

A decent hard working fella whose stable presence brought what the Beatles had to us. I think because he has never acted "cool" like many of his peers he is considered "uncool". Married to the same women for decades, raising their children together with no drama, rehab visits or madness often shown by today's celebrities.

The Sir business was a simple economic tribute from a grateful nation. I hope if I ever contribute as much to the USA economy as the boys did, that I am awarded more than just a "Sir".

I would guess that most who own a bass, and anyone else as well, would have this old guy on their short list of people they would love to meet and talk to. I hope if I am lucky enough to reach his age, anyone would want to talk to me.

On the other hand, I wonder how most would respond to the public spotlight, constant intrusions, and answering the same old questions after 40 plus years. I'm surprised he has not succumb to the Axle Rose school of public relations after dealing with the likes of us.
57basstra
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 5:16 pm:   Edit Post

I have read this thread for the past few days and wondered if there is something Paul has done recently (or not so recently) bad, wrong, immoral, illegal, obscene, reckless, humiliating, that I do not know about. The criticisms posted here are vague to me. Specifically what are we talking about here, please?

I for one am a huge Paul McCartney fan. He is my favorite bass player/singer. The Beatles are my favorite group. Always have been always will be.

Is he perfect? No. Who is? He is called Sir Paul because he was knighted. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but I would like to hear some specifics.


1996, I think....
LONDON (Reuter) - Former Beatle Paul McCartney, perhaps the world's most successful pop composer, was awarded a knighthood in the New Year's honors list announced by the British prime minister's office Tuesday.

And in the week that the film version of his stage musical "Evita" opens across Britain, composer Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber was elevated to the peerage, allowing him to sit in the House of Lords.

Lloyd Webber's hits include "Jesus Christ Superstar," "Phantom of the Opera," "Cats" and "Sunset Boulevard."

Lloyd Webber, knighted for services to the arts in 1992, once employed Queen Elizabeth's youngest son Prince Edward in his Really Useful Group production company. He said he was "deeply grateful" for his latest honor.

McCartney dedicated his award to his fellow-Beatles -- including his late song-writing partner John Lennon, shot dead by a deranged fan in 1980.
lbpesq
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 6:55 pm:   Edit Post

I first began playing guitar because of the Beatles. I was eight years old. We had a baritone ukulele sitting in the living room. I restrung it lefty and learned a few chords lefty (even though I'm a righty) because Paul was my favorite (I was eight, remember). As I grew up, I came to admire John far more. The guy had balls and represented more than just music. This should, however, not detract from Paul's rightful place in the history of rock & pop music. The guy is undoubtedly a genius of the genre, though, admittedly, often with a little too much saccharin mixed in for my taste, but a genius nonetheless. I hope he has a great time on Route 66.

BIll, tgo
jacko
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post

My tuppence worth (in an attempt to help the balance). To me, Macca was and still is a superb musician and showman. His basslines throughout the beatles catalogue are always 'just right' and his songwriting was and still is excellent. Having seen TV coverage of his recent BBC show and his performance in Liverpool, I can only say I'm really sad I didn't get to either concert.
As for the 'Sir' thing, it's nice to be recognised for one's achievements once in a while.

Graeme
811952
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 3:13 pm:   Edit Post

There's a very good chance I wouldn't be playing bass if not for Paul, for better or for worse! ;)

John
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Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 8:06 pm:   Edit Post

The Beatles! Yea Yea Yea! John & Paul were definetly the stand outs. Ringo had some really cool chops! One of the coolest bass lines ever...come together. I was listening to a radio station that had an "all Beatles day".The idiots played some Wings. The Beatles was great! Paul is great. But Wings is not even a close second to what the band "Beatles" had.
jlpicard
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Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 9:20 pm:   Edit Post

When any of the "Paul bashers", cynics and "experts" out there achieve even a millionth of the success, or influence on the direction of the music world to the slightest degree.........or bring the amount of joy to world that Paul and the Beatles have, then be my guest and flap your pie holes all you want. Until then, pick up your bass and get a life.
dannobasso
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 5:31 am:   Edit Post

Well put. Show us your latest cd release and compare royalties with PM.
lbpesq
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 9:29 am:   Edit Post

Michael:

While I was not one the the Paul bashers above, your same argument could be made for Kenny G., Hanna Montana, or even Tiny Tim, all of whom have had more "success" in the music business than most of us.

Bill, tgo
hydrargyrum
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 9:52 am:   Edit Post

I guess I'm the standout here in as much as George is my favorite of the group. John could write, but he also seemed to go out of his way to be intentionally strange (Yoko anyone?) and often hostile. Paul could sing, but his songwriting is far too sugary sweet to my ears, especially post Beatles. George always seemed to be pretty humble, his guitar playing was extremely solid (while not flashy), he sang well, and his post Beatles songwriting is the best in my opinion (All Things Must Pass, Traveling Wilburys), Granted, John did come up with at least one or two songs per album that still raise the gooseflesh, I just don't think he was as consistent. Ringo, well, he was and is still Ringo. No further explanation needed. In any event I think that next to the definition of synergy in the dictionary should be a picture of the Beatles. The whole was definitely more than the sum of its parts.

(Message edited by hydrargyrum on August 18, 2008)
olieoliver
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post

Paul thinks he is God
John thought he was more important than God
George searched for God.
And Ringo.....God Help Him.

OO
And I am a HUGE Beatles Fan.
jbybj
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 3:52 pm:   Edit Post

As a 49 year old Beatles fan, I think the problem is that they were a hard act to follow. When I first heard that mandolin and Paul yammering on about how "everybodies gonna dance around" I just got depressed. But the Beatles, and even some solo stuff, (Ram) and Some Wings, (Let Me Roll It) to name a few still make my heart race.

I also think, in hindsight, that many people judge him for marrying a Linda look-alike, without a prenup too!

I have found that for me, personally, it is easy to become judgementle, when you are better than everyone else........

Peace, James
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 5:08 pm:   Edit Post

Post Beatles all the fab 4 were more sucessful than than most,even Ringo!:-) Paul was the most successful post Beatles because he obviously still had the drive and he worked hard for it. But none could match the original.Not even Paul himself.Most of us who grew up with the Beatles related to them because of their ability to express most of our true feelings of the times through song.Thus we all feel we know them. It's hard to live up to ones image created by so many! The Beatles were possibly the most successful band ever!Success sponds controversy which it seeems we are having some. Does anyone really know Paul the man? You can not believe everything you read or see on the tube.
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 5:17 pm:   Edit Post

James ....I think Paul marrying without a prenup just goes to show his character.He must be a trusting ole soul! dont know if I could have that much character! :-)
dnburgess
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 2:54 am:   Edit Post

The last two solo McCartney ("Chaos & creation..." and "Memory almost full") albums are excellent and I recommend them to anyone who enjoys finely crafted music. The bass playing is, as you would expect, very tasteful and beautifully recorded and mixed.

They remind me a lot of 10CC - who most likely wouldn't have existed without the "art rock" foundations laid by The Beatles.
jacko
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 3:15 am:   Edit Post

I have to agree with David here. It's true that almost every album ever made (by anyone) has some filler and it's unfortunate that paul chose the filler to release as the single from 'memory..' as the rest of the album is excellent.
I'm also going to stick up my hand and say I really like alot of the wings era material - Band on the Run (IMHO) is one of those rare albums with NO filler.

As for Pre-nups, He's British and Pre-nuptual agreements aren't so prevalent over here so maybe it never occured to him.

Graeme
cozmik_cowboy
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 8:55 am:   Edit Post

Let me clarify that my earlier assertion that Paul is the least of the Beatles starts with the fact that he was a freakin' Beatle - the "least" is in that context. He's a great singer, a good player (the first bass line I ever noticed was "Lady Madonna") and a skilled writer. But he lacks George's virtuosity, John's soul, and Ringo's cool. His pop sensibilities were an indispensable part of the Beatles magic - but, just as John tended to go too serious without Paul's influence, the end of the partnership freed Paul to make himself into a master craftsman of lightweight pop froth. I will disagree with Steve that his greater post-Beatles success was due to more drive; I would argue that it's due to more mainstream sensibilities - and I don't count that as a plus (see Bill's above references to Mr. G & Ms. Montana). While Paul's post-Beatles work weighs heavily against his Beatles legacy, it in no way negates it. I love Beatle Paul; solo artist & bandleader Paul McCartney leaves me cold.

Peter
bracheen
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 9:46 am:   Edit Post

While I like certain McCartney songs I wouldn't say that I'm a fan. The same statement could apply to all of the Beatles solo work. That being said, the concert that I attended in Miami a year or so ago was one of the top shows I've ever attended. The man played for three solid hours. His band was tight and he hadn't lost a step.

Sam
jbybj
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 8:20 pm:   Edit Post

+1 re: Band on the Run

and I too saw Paul a couple of years ago in Vegas. It was awesome, A highlight of my musical life. He played about 60% Beatles toons, 25% Wings, and 15% forgetable recent stuff.

James
gare
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post

+2..Band on the Run

Saw wings twice many years ago..both performances were excellent..my favorite live tune..Live and Let Die.
I try not to analyse the man, I want to listen to his work not live with him. A good portion of his post-Beatle work is good..in a poppy sort of way.
Recently I watched an HBO interview with Ringo..dispelling the myths..thought that was good..I didnt know he was left handed, which explains alot of his playing style. But I think we'd all have to agree that the four of them in combination were magical for the years they were together.

Gary

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