Author |
Message |
glocke
Senior Member Username: glocke
Post Number: 478 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 12:14 pm: | |
vent time... I mean work at all..I know a couple of people that for whatever reason dont have to work and have very little responsibilities. they are also high maintenance and require a fair amount of attenion... they just dont seem to understand that people who do work for a living have very little free time.....one guy I know has no responsibilites, no job, etc...and just doesnt understand how I am unable to hang out 2-3 times a week for hours on end (I work 40+ hours a week, have a one hour commute to work one way, and have a band commitment, in addition to the responsibilites involved with owning a home).. |
dannobasso
Senior Member Username: dannobasso
Post Number: 886 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 12:40 pm: | |
I have known such and they have been cultivated by their enablers to live off the fat of the land (ie other peoples money). They tend to wallow in their own emotions and have very little tolerance for the working stiffs. I have no time for the like anymore and as such save on cards around the holidays. I fear for my social security. Stay strong my brother! Stay strong! |
hydrargyrum
Advanced Member Username: hydrargyrum
Post Number: 387 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 2:34 pm: | |
I've always dreamed of being a landed gentleman, but alas, I remain among the plebes. I know some folks who are fairly well off, and nice though they may be, their perception of necessity and my own differ somewhat. |
rami
Senior Member Username: rami
Post Number: 862 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 2:34 pm: | |
Let's not generalize. I believe in forming my opinions of people on their character rather than what they do for a living. If how they live does not involve criminal activity or any other way that affects me (or my tax dollars), then it's none of my business and we have no right to judge. I know MANY people who are "High maintenance and require alot of attention" who work 40+ hours a week as well. |
glocke
Senior Member Username: glocke
Post Number: 479 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 3:28 pm: | |
Well......not really generalizing....i just see a common denominator. Those that I have known that do not work for whatever reason, seem to have unreasonable expectations of others time and schedule, and do not seem to grasp the idea that working stiffs have limited availability and cant be expected to be around all the time... When my mother passed away a couple of weeks ago, it was pretty much me making all the arrangements, and me cleaning out her apartment, etc...still had to work on top of all this...so for that two week period that ended this past friday I was pretty much maxed out and exhausted mentally and physically at the end of the day...my "non-working" friends just did not seem to grasp this and seemed offended by my lack of availability.... |
rami
Senior Member Username: rami
Post Number: 863 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 4:04 pm: | |
My sincerest condolences for the loss of your mother. I know that feeling as well. I think that those who don't consider your feelings and situation show more a lack of character than anything else. When I lost my mother and then my sister, I really found out who my true friends are. |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 7146 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 7:30 pm: | |
Do I know anyone that doesn't work? Yes, I do. Me! I'm currently not working. Of course, I guess that depends on what your definition of work is, since I pretty much stay busy all the time. But if your talking about doing stuff that you get paid for, I'm not currently working. |
ajdover
Senior Member Username: ajdover
Post Number: 670 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 7:39 pm: | |
I'm not working either, but ... I'm in cooking school in Vermont, where I "work" in school kitchens, though I don't get paid for it. In fact, I'm paying them for the privilege as it were. This being said, I still get paid. After twenty years, 2 months and 19 days in the Army, I get a retirement check every month. So I guess I can say I "gladly worked yesterday for a paycheck tomorrow," to paraphrase J. Wellington Wimpey. Alan |
keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin
Post Number: 1491 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 3:57 am: | |
thanks to dope sales alot of guys dont work at all and are sittin on tons of money!......i know a few and it pisses me off see these mutherf#k#ers capitalize on the weak folks in my community! |
811952
Senior Member Username: 811952
Post Number: 1545 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 6:21 am: | |
There are self-absorbed, needy, whiners who will eagerly suck up all of your time and resources who don't work, and there are self-absorbed, needy, whiners who will eagerly suck up all of your time and resources who do work. I generally try to avoid both types, but also recognize that sometimes I am one also. Life is a big circle in many ways. Gregory, sorry for the loss of your Mother. Having been the one who took over and got the needed things done after her passing, you should note that your character has been tested and has passed with flying colors at a time of great anguish. And as Rami posted, this probably has helped you sort out who your true friends are.. I find my life is too short to waste time on people I don't really want to be with. As it is, there isn't nearly enough time to spend with the people I want to spend it with. John (working - too much for too little) |
glocke
Senior Member Username: glocke
Post Number: 480 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 6:26 am: | |
"There are self-absorbed, needy, whiners who will eagerly suck up all of your time and resources who don't work, and there are self-absorbed, needy, whiners who will eagerly suck up all of your time and resources who do work. I generally try to avoid both types, but also recognize that sometimes I am one also. Life is a big circle in many ways. " I guess that sums it up....apologies to you folks who do not work and are not needy whiners.. |
jet_powers
Advanced Member Username: jet_powers
Post Number: 390 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 9:04 am: | |
There are a lot of people around the world who don't work. Some by choice others by circumstance. I'm one by circumstance and am trying diligently to change that. Those who don't work by choice and choose to leech off the system and those around them are the ones I have issues with, and I am currently dealing with that in my own household. It's not easy.... -JP |
poor_nigel
Senior Member Username: poor_nigel
Post Number: 591 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 1:06 pm: | |
Gregory, I am grieved to hear about the loss of your mother. I lost my father a few years ago, and went through some mentally challanging times. My mother is not in the best of helth these days, and I know sooner or later her time will come, too. It is nothing any of us can get away from, but such situations are when friends count the most. If those around you did not jump in and help in your time of need, I do not think they are worth much as friends. I can be very obtuce at times. I would certainly go way out of my way to help a friend in need, but maybe they would have to let me know they needed my help. Anyway, post anything you want here, if it makes you feel a bit more releaved. Take care. |
hydrargyrum
Advanced Member Username: hydrargyrum
Post Number: 388 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 1:42 pm: | |
I guess my previous post did sound a bit judgmental. I will amend my position to that quoted above. |
lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq
Post Number: 3350 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 4:33 pm: | |
My 13 year old doesn't work. Damn, I'm jealous! Whose idea was it to pass all those pesky child labor laws anyway? On a more serious note, I think there is a difference between "not working", and "not working at a job for pay". My wife doesn't have a paying job, but try and tell her she "doesn't work" (then duck!). The types that bug me are lucky sperm club members who don't understand and/or appreciate their situation. Bill, tgo |
811952
Senior Member Username: 811952
Post Number: 1546 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 4:38 pm: | |
"lucky sperm club members" I've gotta find a way to work that into a conversation... John |
lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq
Post Number: 3351 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 4:58 pm: | |
It's from a song by The Toyes (better known for their song "Smoke Two Joints"): "He's another member of the Lucky Sperm Club The only thing he had to do was be conceived It's great to be a member of the Lucky Sperm Club Living in the lap of lazy luxury" Bill, tgo |
flaxattack
Senior Member Username: flaxattack
Post Number: 2096 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 10:27 pm: | |
i dont work in the general sense of the term anymore. right now i am educating myself on alternative energy production. I've decided after looking for job AND a band that i am better off working for myself and starting my own band cause i aint gonna get rich working for someone else and i am sick and tired of auditioning having to play shit i dont like and aholes expecting me to know every tune on the planet. so now i fish, do my stain glass,hangout,play my bass,and next yr i will be doing some interesting stuff. |
terryc
Senior Member Username: terryc
Post Number: 614 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 1:03 am: | |
Here in the UK it is a great debate item in the pubs. I, like all my friends have worked for a salary since we left school 35 years ago and although we moan about the shirkers who take money from the government via us tax payers and it does p**s us off we are still better off financially and morally. We all would like a life of not working so we can do all the other stuff but unfortunatley unless you have won the lottery you need the money to do the other stuff! I don't see many unemployed people with Alembic basses(davehouck exception and I guarantee there is a very valid and wholesome reason)) but without getting into the whole will work/won't work debate I know where glocke is coming from. |
cozmik_cowboy
Advanced Member Username: cozmik_cowboy
Post Number: 371 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 6:36 am: | |
In my youth, I refused to work in a non-music-related job - meaning, of course, that a lot of the time, I didn't work. It was great! Then I got myself a few kids, and they wanted to eat, so.....17 years of getting up at 0420 to go do crap I hated. Then laid off & back to school & 1.5 years of part-time, catch-as-catch-can. Tomorrow I will be working full-time for the first time in 6.5 years. I don't think I'll like being an archivist quite as much as doing sound, but I guaran-damn-tee it'll be a ton better than driving a truck! And while my recent idleness has rendered our finacial straits rather dire, I find I still enjoy not working (and it's even better with a well-paid wife, so I could be a bum living in a nice old Victorian house rather than in my car, as was often the case back then) Peter |
keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h
Post Number: 1151 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 7:04 am: | |
Actually I've spent my whole career looking for the day I don't have to work. :-) Unfortunately that day looks to be further away now than it was a few months ago. :-( Keith |