| Author | Message | ||
| byoung
Senior Member Username: byoung Post Number: 1160 Registered: 12-2004 |
I'm looking for opinions on loopers. I'm aware of the Boomerang and the Boss RC-50. I'm thinking of a slightly different avenue, however; does anyone here loop with a computer? e.g. GarageBand or something? I'm basically looking to expand-- I want to be able to lay down a percussion and bass line and improvise over the top. Or maybe a bass line and improvise percussion. Who knows (the shadow knows)? And when I say percussion, I mean a percussive sound from my bass. I don't want to get into drum tracks and all that (yet?). Anyhoo, hoping for some of y'all's thoughts, I know there are a few "loopers" here. Bradley | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 3512 Registered: 7-2004 |
Bradley: I can certainly give you advice on how to get looped, but I suspect that's not what you're looking for! hehehehe Bill, tgo | ||
| dadabass2001
Senior Member Username: dadabass2001 Post Number: 1002 Registered: 6-2002 |
Wasn't the Dali Lama a looper? I remember he had the corner on True Enlightenment for the next life. (a blatant Caddyshack reference if ever there was one) Sorry , that wasn't much help... can I just say this is the 1002 post I've put up here? Mike | ||
| byoung
Senior Member Username: byoung Post Number: 1161 Registered: 12-2004 |
What I love about this forum: always with the serious answers. And Bill (The Ganja One?), that's medicinal, right? Bradley | ||
| olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 2029 Registered: 2-2006 |
I use my PC and MAc both for looping. I have Cubase 4 installed on them both and it's a very useful tool. I've played around with Garage Band some, in fact it's got some good loops already in the program, but mostly I use Cubase. I've done some midi and audio looping. I'm not sure about garage band but with Cubase you can use the "snap" tool and cut your audio recording on a preset of either beat (whole, half, quarter, sixteenth...note) or you can set it to bar. This really helps out when creating your loops BUT you will need to record your loop with a click for this. As for bass percussive sounds, thats a great idea. I usually, in fact 99% of the time, record my bass lines as a whole. I like to add slightly different touches here or there. But percussion, rhyhtm guitar tracks, key board..I loop em. OO | ||
| adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan Post Number: 2082 Registered: 6-2002 |
You might do it the old way with two identical old tape recorders (one in record mode, the other in playback), a couple of patch cords, and a piece of tape that you cut-and-paste onto its own end. Use empty reels to guide the tape, and adjust the delay by moving the recorders. | ||
| terryc
Senior Member Username: terryc Post Number: 704 Registered: 11-2004 |
adriann..thats a blast from the past, I have Fripp & Eno's first album 'No Pussyfooting', he used the same technique with two Revox tape machines to produce and endless loop which fripp played his sustained guitar over. Now to can get stomp boxes which do the same, Boss Loop Station is one which available. Mind you Ibpesq's susggestion sounds more entertaining..well if did both 'loops' that would make an interesting night...which planet is this???? | ||
| adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan Post Number: 2083 Registered: 6-2002 |
Looper stomp boxes will be digital, and we certainly don't want to have any of those hanging around here. I seem to remember that ye olde Roland Space Echo had a tape, but I don't know if the delay and sample time would be long enough to provide an actual loop - it will be more like the pulse that drove most of the early U2 stuff. | ||
| hydrargyrum
Senior Member Username: hydrargyrum Post Number: 459 Registered: 3-2004 |
Not necessarily Adriaan, I have a Zvex Lo-fi Loop Junky, and it uses an interesting technology to loop in analog. If your interested you can read more here: http://zvex.com/junky.html. (Message edited by hydrargyrum on February 09, 2009) | ||
| olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 2034 Registered: 2-2006 |
Bradley are you looking to loop for live gigging or recording? OO | ||
| adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan Post Number: 2086 Registered: 6-2002 |
Interesting Zvex thingy. Not something I'd run out to buy - but then there's nothing much that does that for me. | ||
| byoung
Senior Member Username: byoung Post Number: 1162 Registered: 12-2004 |
Live, although probably not actually playing out (yet?). Tape? That wasn't quite what I'm looking for. Likely biased against analog-- too much effort, not enough flexibility. Bradley | ||
| olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 2035 Registered: 2-2006 |
I don't see why you can't use a computer either way. Of course you'd probably want to use a notebook/laptop for live gigging. May be cheaper to get the RC-50 though. I'm not sure but I think my BassPod Live has looping capabilities. HMM, think I'll check that when I get home. OO | ||
| hydrargyrum
Senior Member Username: hydrargyrum Post Number: 460 Registered: 3-2004 |
Yeah, the Loop Junky is a little unusual. I think the description of it sounding like playing along with a warped 45 is a good one. Not right for every song, but sometimes dead on. I enjoy over driving drum loops, etc. with it. | ||
| pace
Advanced Member Username: pace Post Number: 400 Registered: 4-2004 |
Brad, FWIW, the Boomerang has nice sized pedals and the unit itself is large enough to see in your periphery... So it lends itself to stage or rehearsal space rather than to control rooms / desktops. |
