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jalevinemd
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Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 711
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 5:41 pm:   Edit Post

I've got limited room on the pedalboard and I'm thinking about adding a compressor. But something's gotta go. I currently use a Keeley Java Boost as a clean, volume boost. If you turn the compression to "0" and turn up the "level," "volume" or whatever your particular compressor calls it, can you get a pure volume boost from the pedal with no change in tone?

In simplest terms, can a compressor function as a pure volume boost?
jakebass
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Username: jakebass

Post Number: 67
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 1:13 am:   Edit Post

I'm no expert but I think that compression brings things more in line i.e louder notes contained making higher volume available for the quieter notes. This gives an illusion of louder as everything is more level. You certainly can boost the output leve on most units I've encountered. I use a Fishman Platinum pro bass pre and it has a compression dial on it, it's a fantastic unit.

TBH the consistency of note production across the range of most Alembics really should negate the need for compression I think.
I use the Fishman for my upright.

Jake
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 732
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 1:57 am:   Edit Post

jakebass...I agree, I have never used any conpressor unit on my MK signature, the volume balance sounds right across the whole spectrum.
Maybe different for the Alembic guitars but I cannot see how, if this is the case for Alembic guitars I would just use the vol boost and get rid of the compressor
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 543
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 6:38 am:   Edit Post

If you aren't going to use the compressor as a compressor, shouldn't you just stick with the volume boost you already have?

Also, I would think that different compressors would sound different if used as you are describing, and probably would color the sound a bit since the signal would be going through the circuitry.

I have a Custom Audio Japan V-Comp which is a tube compressor, and the instructions specifically state that you can use it as a volume boost without compressing, but with the purpose of the tube coloring the sound.
jalevinemd
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Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 712
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post

Harry,

I want a compressor as well. It's just that I use the boost so much more often.
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 546
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 1:25 pm:   Edit Post

OK, so sometimes you want to use it as a compressor and sometimes as a volume boost?

I still think it would depend on the compressor as to whether or not it would color the sound. Maybe you could email someone like Keeley and ask?
jalevinemd
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Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 713
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 1:30 pm:   Edit Post

Harry,

Exactly!

Great minds think alike. I called Keeley today. There will probably be a tiny bit of compression even turned to 0. I'll give it a try but I might have to move things around to accommodate both pedals.
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 5944
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 1:53 pm:   Edit Post

You could have a boost switch installed on your Alembic guitars, and use a Blaster on the other ones. Just a thought!
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 547
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 1:58 pm:   Edit Post

The Keeley compressors seem to be aimed at not coloring the sound much even when compressing, so hopefully it will work out for you!
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 631
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 4:57 pm:   Edit Post

I've used a Fatman tube compressor as a boost before feeding the input of my Swart guitar amp.
...it's not a pedal but it worked great to give me a hot signal for V1 without adding color.
My Swart all of sudden worked more like a mesa/marshall.

Let us know how the Keeley works for ya.
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3596
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 5:19 pm:   Edit Post

I have a re-issue Dyna-Comp modded by analogman. Boy, what an improvement! You might want to give him a call. As I recall he makes a dual compressor pedal (2 different compressors in 1 pedal, maybe the "bicompressor"?). Perhaps you could set one as a boost and the other as a compressor, or maybe even get a custom boost/compress combo. I found him very helpful and easy to work with. His website (analogman.com) isn't the greatest, but I love his pedals.

Bill, tgo
jalevinemd
Senior Member
Username: jalevinemd

Post Number: 714
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 6:23 am:   Edit Post

Thanks guys. I'll let you know.

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