| Author | Message | ||
| georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 701 Registered: 8-2005 |
Had to post this!! Listen to Niels Pedersen playing Samba Petit from 1994 with Oscar Peterson Jaco was wonderful.......but listen to the best bass player EVER.......IMHO Enjoy people!! I'll try and post the link, but not sure how G | ||
| artswork99
Senior Member Username: artswork99 Post Number: 658 Registered: 7-2007 |
George, I think this is the one you are speaking of... Beautiful! Niels Pedersen playing Samba Petit from 1994 with Oscar Peterson Cheers, Art | ||
| georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 702 Registered: 8-2005 |
Thanks Art!! Yep that's the one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wonderful! G | ||
| georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 703 Registered: 8-2005 |
I just don't seem to get the hang of posting links I'd like to share with the Forum. D'Ohhh!!!!!!!! | ||
| gregduboc
Intermediate Member Username: gregduboc Post Number: 144 Registered: 11-2008 |
Thanks for that video! Made my day already!  Greg | ||
| tubeperson
Member Username: tubeperson Post Number: 66 Registered: 5-2005 |
All you need to see is Oscar applauding the Great Dane at the end of this piece. They were extraordnary together. | ||
| tubeperson
Member Username: tubeperson Post Number: 67 Registered: 5-2005 |
All you need to see is Oscar applauding the Great Dane at the end of this piece. They were extraordinary together. | ||
| artswork99
Senior Member Username: artswork99 Post Number: 659 Registered: 7-2007 |
No problem George, glad to assist... I always thought that the instructions to create a link with customized text could be in more places or you can copy and paste the URL from your browser address bar directly into a posting. Cheers! | ||
| olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 2351 Registered: 2-2006 |
Awesome piece George. Thanks. If you've never played acoustic bass before you should try once to really appreciate this even more. BRAVO! OO OO | ||
| artswork99
Senior Member Username: artswork99 Post Number: 660 Registered: 7-2007 |
Olie, that's the truth... I studied it (as a teen) then laid it down for many years until just a month ago when I performed with a double bass once again. Whew, that was challenging and a great time! This video is spectacular! Art (Message edited by artswork99 on May 08, 2009) | ||
| olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 2357 Registered: 2-2006 |
I still attempt it (Emphasis on attempt) occasionally but not nearly enough to be good at it. LOL OO | ||
| terryc
Senior Member Username: terryc Post Number: 812 Registered: 11-2004 |
If you think that is good, check out Donna Lee with Niels and Joe Pass on Ytube. Sorry I don't know how post links either but this is incredible, neither of them even look where there fingers are going Anyone who is good at the links, please post it for everyone to enjoy It is awesome | ||
| artswork99
Senior Member Username: artswork99 Post Number: 661 Registered: 7-2007 |
Here you go, Joe Pass and NHOP Wow... | ||
| olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 2359 Registered: 2-2006 |
GEEZ..Louise...I'll probably never touch my upright again. LOL O (gotta practice) OH | ||
| hieronymous
Senior Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 595 Registered: 1-2005 |
I love it when they play the melody together at the end of Donna Lee! It looks like his hands are just sliding around but the notes are strong and clear. Almost inconceivable, except it's happening before our eyes and ears! | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 8008 Registered: 5-2002 |
Love it!! Thanks!! | ||
| cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member Username: cozmik_cowboy Post Number: 468 Registered: 10-2006 |
Whoa. On any list of things I never expected to see in my life, someone doubling Joe Pass - I repeat, doubling JOE PASS - on a doghouse bass would have been near the top, were it something I would have even thought of. Amazing. But I really enjoyed the solo piece a lot more. Just exquisite. Thanks, George & Art. Peter | ||
| georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 704 Registered: 8-2005 |
Just watched him with Joe Pass. Defies belief! I believe he died not all that long ago. That must be some band in the sky! G | ||
| chrisalembic
Junior Username: chrisalembic Post Number: 23 Registered: 3-2009 |
here is another fun version of donna lee on upright: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqwik_wdLa4 | ||
| white_cloud
Senior Member Username: white_cloud Post Number: 659 Registered: 11-2007 |
Thanks George, as a big fan of Oscar (r.i.p) it was a joy to watch this performance once more. I think "worlds greatest bass player" is an impossible thing to define as each individual will come to their own conclusion as to who that is - however Niels was an absolute master of the upright. John. | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 8013 Registered: 5-2002 |
Chris, that was fun; thanks! | ||
| cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member Username: cozmik_cowboy Post Number: 470 Registered: 10-2006 |
Hmmm - Niels Pederson & Aladár Pege both wear what looks like a wedding ring, but on the right hand rather than left. Is this some seceret upright players' society sign or something? Peter (who thinks it may be too early to be thinking) | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 8015 Registered: 5-2002 |
Peter; the third finger is naturally not as strong as the first two fingers. Wearing a heavy ring on the third helps give more power, and to thus even out the attack for three finger right hand technique. | ||
| georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 706 Registered: 8-2005 |
There is another great tune from Niels, with a Danish guitarist. I found it once, but am unable to find it again. Brilliant performances from the two of them! It's called (very well known!) " A Nightingale Sings in Berkley Square! Just GREAT!! Is Oscar dead too?????? Oh Man..........what's happening? I think, that the original post I put up, with him playing Samba Petit is now....with more listenings, just Soooo beautiful. The tone...sensational! Anyone know what bass he used, and what strings he used?? I'm in awe ! | ||
| georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 707 Registered: 8-2005 |
Just watched Aladar....another megastar! I'm now in love with the sound of a quality upright bass! BUT One thing still amazes me.. These guys could be totally blind, ...they NEVER look at what they play, and yet it's just................Phew | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 3793 Registered: 7-2004 |
Dave: you wrote "Wearing a heavy ring on the third helps give more power" Is this like a Green Lantern thing? What is this magical power ring made of, anti-kryptonite? Were you being serious? Does a ring really help playing technique? I've never heard of such a thing, other than some players removing wedding rings because they get in the way (of PLAYING! I can already hear the jokes). Bill, tgo | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 8016 Registered: 5-2002 |
1 - no; those rings have to be ordered from the Guardians of the Universe, and the waiting time can be a year and a half or more 2 - phosphorus, sulfur, arsenic, and antimony 3 - no 4 - I don't wear them, I would tend to think that they would actually hinder technique Seriously though, when you watch these upright guys, the way they position their left hands when playing way up the neck, I can see where having a ring on one those fingers might, for some, be a bit in the way. | ||
| terryc
Senior Member Username: terryc Post Number: 813 Registered: 11-2004 |
Glad you all enjoyed my suggestion, just watched it again..it's the clarity as well as the speed at which Niels plays just belies belief! Even Jaco would have a hard time keeping up with that pace. | ||
| john_judge
Junior Username: john_judge Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2009 |
Hey Georgie Boy...AHHHH YES! NIEL'S was indeed master of perfect Pizzicato technique with perfect unison between both hands, and to play like Niels you must use all five fingers on the right hand and all five on the left including thumb. And as with anything practice your butt off! I once met a Man named Frank Rogers who was one of the instrument care taker's for the Duke- E band and he had traveled with Niel's a few times during Festivals..Anyway I did ask about his beautiful tone distinction that he achieved and next question was strings he told me he use to use Labella but later switched to a Gut core brand name Pirastro Pizzicato Silver wrapped, which hold tone longer and sustain, but if you are a bluegrass slapper, you will hate these! plus the price at about $500.00 a set , that was in 2004 when I met this individual, so I am sure they cost more now, hope this helps. John | ||
| georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 708 Registered: 8-2005 |
Thanks John, Nice to hear fom you.There are so many brilliant players out there..........yourself and Jimmy J for example. I should have added should have added a "??" at the end of the title. It was just that I was absolutely gob-smacked when I saw him George | ||
| georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 710 Registered: 8-2005 |
Now on a down note! Niels seems to have taken some flak on a song he played with Christian McBride. Ok.it seemed to my uneducated ears, that the intonation was slightly out?....the excuse being that he was getting "old" now. Geez.....I make mistakes all the time, but could never play with such an Imperial quality and tone NOW!! The big question.......... OK.he played upright bass...a true skill in its own right IMAGINE.if you can, that he played an Alembic Series bass....what would he have been like?????? G | ||
| georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 712 Registered: 8-2005 |
Or even a Classico?? | ||
| artswork99
Senior Member Username: artswork99 Post Number: 664 Registered: 7-2007 |
Adding such tone to such playing, great to contemplate... the wonder of life has granted many of us here the enjoyment of such gifts during our lives. Thanks Alembic! Here's to the art of music and the makers of fine instruments! | ||
| john_judge
Junior Username: john_judge Post Number: 28 Registered: 4-2009 |
UPRIGHT PLAYING CAN BE A FUNNY THING.....I for one can play some things faster on the upright due to the hand positioning as being more comfortable and of course, such is not always the case in reaching into the higher register...Where Niel's was a master at. There is nothing like a good old Alembic with smooth action and a great feeling neck to fly around on...But at times, an Upright can bring out the Passion in me, for there are no knob's to turn no volume to set, only your technique can acquire those things, your volume your tone from the wood and on the upright, you must work hard to achieve it all. May Niel's rest and peace, for in the Jazz world, he was one of the most sort after and recorded Bassist of all times. John | ||
| georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 714 Registered: 8-2005 |
John, I'm so graced that you respond to my posts..........thankyou! I'm no upright player, although now, after hearing Niels, I wish I were! To reach the levels of yourself and Jimmy J, is only a dream that will never be fulfilled by most of us..but we all live in hope! My nearest level, is to play fretless bass (badly) but I do love the sound! My dear friend "White Cloud"...John Hughes to those that know him!..............ALWAYS rants about the virtues of passive electronics.....whereby, there is no real colouration of the sound. I can now......after your explanation, see why! I just love my 75 P bass for this particular reason........though all my other basses are active, it gives me that wonderful True woody tone. I've watched "Samba Petit" so many times now.........still wonderful! Thanks so much for joining our little club, and for imparting so much insight to it. G | ||
| white_cloud
Senior Member Username: white_cloud Post Number: 660 Registered: 11-2007 |
Thanks for the mention George although Im sure few members would agree with my taste for passive basses here at the club! I always think back to hearing the late great Joe Zawinul stating that the truest and greatest instrument of all is the human voice - indeed, the primary and purest form of musical expression. Once amplified effects can be added of course but I cant honestly think of any vocalist with active electronics fitted to their throat at all lol! John. | ||
| peoplechipper
Intermediate Member Username: peoplechipper Post Number: 112 Registered: 2-2009 |
The Samba piece is amazing! never thought I'd hear all that from an upright...John, I actually in general lean towards passive electronics; I never really trusted instruments you put a battery in, and coming from guitar playing all the active guitars are EMG shredmonsters that don't do it for me... The bass that led me here was a Fernandes copy wired passive that sounded amazing; thankfully got the real thing a year later...but honestly, the difference at the amp end is a little more output from the Distillate. Wood and construction are truly key; I actually bought my Fernandes without plugging it in; sounded so good acousticially that it had to be good plugged in, and it was...but my Distillate is even better in both regards, which is why I love it so...Tony. | ||
| georgie_boy
Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 717 Registered: 8-2005 |
I used to have one of those before I got the real thing. Must say though..............don't care what anybody says........it was a superb instrument. Not nearly as warm and melodic as my old 76 Series 1, but had all the filters and stuff, and, if I still had it today, then the woods would have matured and the sound would be UP there. It blew a JD Mark King out the window.......go figure G | ||
| white_cloud
Senior Member Username: white_cloud Post Number: 661 Registered: 11-2007 |
Yes, I completely catch the drift on this subject, whenever I buy a bass I always spend some time playing it unplugged first and listening to every nuance of the sound - lets face it, if it sounds good unplugged then its a good indication that it will sound good plugged in! In my experience instrument construction doesnt really have to be complicated to make for a good sound, many argue that neck-thru construction is vastly superior to bolt-on and set neck instruments - Im not sure I agree at all! George, as you know I was never a big fan of Jaydee basses - I dont doubt that the Fernandes sounded better. John. | ||
| cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member Username: cozmik_cowboy Post Number: 475 Registered: 10-2006 |
"...lets face it, if it sounds good unplugged then its a good indication that it will sound good plugged in!" Very true. Besides, when I play unplugged, it's much harder for everyone to hear just how badly I suck. Peter |
