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white_cloud
Senior Member
Username: white_cloud

Post Number: 667
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 5:34 am:   Edit Post

Anyone members here have any experience of the Sansamp D.I/bass driver??

As regulars here will know I am a technological half wit and always need taken by the hand with such gadgets! I have been offered one for a decent price and Im told it will do wonders for the live sound of 57 re-issue Fender Precision!

John.
briant
Advanced Member
Username: briant

Post Number: 327
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post

I have one. They are a great option to make a so-so bass rig sound really good - especially if you send your signal to front of house straight from the BDDI. I generally use mine for recording but have used it live on occasion.

This is a BDDI direct into Protools and no other processing:

BDDI + my Rogue

I've got this model which is the "classic BDDI". If anyone is looking to buy one new I'd suggest getting the three channel programmable version for only $10 more. Same tone circuit but with 3 channels instead of just one.
crgaston
Senior Member
Username: crgaston

Post Number: 550
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 8:02 pm:   Edit Post

They rule. I carry one as an "ultimate backup." If my whole rig fails I can plug in to this and finish the show through the monitors. As an effect the eq and distortion capabilities are great. It will definitely beef up a P. Turns my G&L SB-2 into a snot-nosed monster with dripping glass fangs, if I want it to.

Get it.
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2228
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 7:46 am:   Edit Post

Geddy lee uses one instead of onstage amps - his backline now consists of vending machines and tumble dryers (when I saw rush in glasgow his roadie had to keep feeding them with money). Sounded ok if a bit muffled although the bass always sounds duff at Glasgow's SECC.

Graeme
white_cloud
Senior Member
Username: white_cloud

Post Number: 668
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post

Totally agree with Graeme, the general sound at the SECC is awful! The adjoing "armadillo" is far superior!

Thanks for the feedback guys. I stumbled upon the Behringer bd121 bass driver pedal, that according to online reviews does exactly the same job as the Sansamp (within reason, it is a Behringer after all) for a fraction of the price - I bought it!

I reasoned that a 30 outlay as opposed to 150 it would be a good way to try out the kind of effect the Sansamp would give me without parting with all my hardearned cash!

Hey, at 30 its almost disposable if it doesnt float my boat! If I adore it then I can upgrade to the pro Sansamp - rock on!!!!

John.
georgie_boy
Senior Member
Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 729
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 4:16 am:   Edit Post

Go for it John!
Let us know how it sounds........we'll all be keento hear about cheaper versions.
I know that Berhinger mixers are just great.......when our American Peavey 16 channel got some beer in it a few weeks ago, I went home and got my 12 channel Berhinger (my home studio mixer)........and it blew the Peavey off the stage!
white_cloud
Senior Member
Username: white_cloud

Post Number: 674
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 6:11 am:   Edit Post

Well, I have played around with the Behringer version of the Sansamp for a couple of days now on my small Fender practice amp (my Trace Elliot is at my guitarists house with the P.A.) and Im not sure if I like it or not yet!

The tube simulation is good and adds a lot of warmth and depth...but its quite an "old school" type of sound so Im not sure how it would work out live. Also its easy to dial in a Marcus Miller/Daryl Jones type of "snap" into slap playing - but it does come at a price, the sound becomes very sensitive! the overdrive doesnt really do too much at all except push the volume to a uncomfortable level - the quality of the disortion is poor (not that I would use it anyway) and its hard to push into overdrive!

Overall? Im glad I didnt buy the Sansamp...the Begringer is fun to play around with and much cheaper. Im sure the quality of sound from the sansamp would be superior but I dont know if its what Im looking for yet - maybe. The external Sadowsky pre-amp/D.I. comes in at a similar price - maybe that would be money better spent!?!?!? I have heard it does wonders for "stock" Fender basses!

John.
gare
Senior Member
Username: gare

Post Number: 431
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 6:30 am:   Edit Post

John
I've used a bassdriver for years, as others have said they can be very useful..they're especially good for adding more presence..dont write the box of yet..in the past I've also used it as a second channel for a quick change of sounds, something to try anyway. They do fatten up the sound of just about every amp (if thats what you're going for)

Gary
willie
Intermediate Member
Username: willie

Post Number: 125
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post

I recently got a Sansamp RPM and a RB1. They sound great but I haven't had enough time to really try them out yet.
They definitely help get the Geddy Lee tone though. On different tours he went through one or the other and the direct line out to front of house. No backline amplifiers. Just clothes driers and chicken cookin things. They may sound good but I personally would still like amps behind me so I not only hear what I'm playing but feel it as well.
Willie
briant
Advanced Member
Username: briant

Post Number: 328
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post

I A/B'd the Behringer "real fake BDDI" against the real thing about a year ago. I recorded both in my studio setup. There was a very noticable difference. The Behringer sounded "like" the BDDI but left much to be desired when compared to the real thing.

I have since deleted/lost the sound files or else I would have been glad to post them for review. Sorry.
eligilam
Intermediate Member
Username: eligilam

Post Number: 175
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 2:33 pm:   Edit Post

Since I got the SansAmp about 8 years ago, I don't do a lick of bass recording in my studio without going through it....although most think of it more for drive and attack, it can also really ballz-up the bass frequencies if you're going for a more fat, subdued, "classic" sound.

I agree with crgaston, too: it can make an already aggressive bass sound (like with my Ric or SCSD) transform into a hungry lycanthropic Uruk'hai!
gare
Senior Member
Username: gare

Post Number: 432
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 9:24 am:   Edit Post

Willie
Since you have both the RBI & RPM, which would consider..well more useful for lack of a better phrase ? I've been thinking of getting an RPM because of semi-parametic mids..I'm also not thrilled with pedals..I'm a clutz, I can trip over my own feet..so I don't need any help there.

Gary
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 857
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 6:13 pm:   Edit Post

white cloud..just looked up that pedal, I think I will treat myself to one and see if it does what it says on the tin, for that amount of dosh you cannot go wrong.
(It's 2.12 am Saturday morning UK time, I have a bad case insomnia)
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 860
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 6:30 pm:   Edit Post

Two large gin and tonics and I am still awake..wonder if I can hit 1000 posts by sunrise
57basstra
Senior Member
Username: 57basstra

Post Number: 935
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 6:36 pm:   Edit Post

I think you can do it!
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 861
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 6:48 pm:   Edit Post

57basstra..I guess you are in the daylight right now..
Unusually warm here in the UK tonight or this morning depending on which way you look at it.
2.47am and still buzzing..going to be tired tomorrow and I have a load of s***t to do.
57basstra
Senior Member
Username: 57basstra

Post Number: 938
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 7:04 pm:   Edit Post

no daylight here right now, terryc. We've been havin' a lota rain here lately. Tonight (early evening) is humid, humid. Go on to sleep......
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 862
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 7:07 pm:   Edit Post

Feeling it now basstra..thanks for the company, goodnight
peoplechipper
Intermediate Member
Username: peoplechipper

Post Number: 113
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post

I use the bass DI(single channel) with drive all the time; it is never off...kicks the front end of my Acoustic 370 just right...every show I play, I get raves about my sound; never about my playing though....Tony
white_cloud
Senior Member
Username: white_cloud

Post Number: 676
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 7:47 am:   Edit Post

Terry, you should buy it - its good value for money!


The instrucions include sample settings to get different sounds - the "ampeg svt" sound and the "amplified fat tube sound" actually work very well and sound is pretty accurate. The "slap" sound is also good - kind of Marcus Miller like - but the "solo" setting is pretty lame!

Also, I dont know if there is a problem with my box but the the overdrive setting isnt giving me much of a distortion at all...weird as the instructions claim I will get "crunching distortions"

Im seriously considering a Sansamp now as I like the potential these drivers are offering me.

John.
briant
Advanced Member
Username: briant

Post Number: 331
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post

Most of the sounds were sitting in a neglected corner of my web server.

Compare BDDI and BDI21
white_cloud
Senior Member
Username: white_cloud

Post Number: 679
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post

My Behringer isnt distorting anything like that - maybe it should go back????
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 874
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 6:28 am:   Edit Post

White cloud..bought that Behringer unit..very versatile, I don't use distortion at all but what it is good for is producing a fat 'reggae' bass sound or using it as a 'presence' pedal when the guitarist solos.
It is very good value for the dosh, I am very pleased with it.
benson_murrensun
Intermediate Member
Username: benson_murrensun

Post Number: 127
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post

I have a Sansamp Bass Driver DI pedal and I use it alot. I agree that it can help a mediocre rig sound much better, and that's what I have been using it for lately. I jam with a buddy who has a big bass rig at his rehearsal space, but it's inherent tone sucks. The Bass Driver makes it tolerable, and now I don't have to lug my amp set-up every time I go there to play.
white_cloud
Senior Member
Username: white_cloud

Post Number: 692
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post

Glad you like it Terry - I agree, its a great buy for that little amount of cash!

I dont think the plastic casing is strong enough to hold up to regular gigging for long though - Im going to buy the Sansamp too as it looks like its built to last.

John.
borisspyder
Junior
Username: borisspyder

Post Number: 32
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 8:30 am:   Edit Post

The D1 is the absolute best. I have to play through house back lines all the time. It makes everything sound good!
andbassforall
Junior
Username: andbassforall

Post Number: 50
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post

I've been using the Bass Driver for quite a few years. A great way to take a polite amp and make it sound edgy. Also, I like to dial in aggressive tones but blend them low to cut through. I've also got the RBI, the rack version that has the addition of the "mid" knob an some extra outputs and have use both pieces on lots of recordings. It's worth mentioning the VT Bass which is a new pedal for them is really cool too and lots of usable tones. I've been taking that out more often these days, but it's not as much of a swiss army knife as the Bass Driver.

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