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lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3916
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post

I'm moving my stomp boxes off the floor and putting them in a rack with a Voodoolab Audio Switcher and Ground Control. I need to make a buttload of patch cables to hook the boxes to the Switcher. I bought a bunch of 1/4" connectors off of ebay for a good price. Now I need to get some wire to make the patch cables. I need something that is fairly flexible, doesn't color the sound, and will hold up. Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated. I know of no better resource for this kind of info than the denizens of this site.

Thanks,

Bill, tgo
ajdover
Senior Member
Username: ajdover

Post Number: 719
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post

Bill,

I have a friend here in Fayetteville whom I've known now for over 10 years, by the name of Mark Stoddard. He owns his own custom cable business, called Lava Cable (www.lavacable.com). He knows his stuff about cable, no doubt. All of my patch cords for my pedalboard and rig were made by him. Top notch stuff. He offers a variety of cable, as well as custom made guitar, amp, pedal, etc. cables if you're interested. If nothing else, his website (and Mark himself) can give you a bit info on the differences between different brands of cable. Check him out - I heartily recommend him not because he's my friend, but he makes really good stuff and backs it up.

Alan
sonicus
Intermediate Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 107
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 2:24 am:   Edit Post

Hi Bill ,
Belden 8410 one conductor 25AWG 52OHM high impedance shielded cable would work for your application if you plan to make your own. Try "AL LASHERS ELECTRONICS" in Berkeley, Ca.@ ph#510-843-5915 . They are our last REAL electronics parts house that we have locally in Alameda Co.and I like to support their business when ever I can. "Electronics Plus "in San Rafael is also one of the last over in Marin Co.

(Message edited by sonicus on June 13, 2009)
sonicus
Intermediate Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 108
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 3:11 am:   Edit Post

Belden 8410 test results ;

http://www.brainmapping.org/Steel/Tone
cje
Junior
Username: cje

Post Number: 14
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 5:00 am:   Edit Post

For the internals of my rack, I used Mogami 2524. It's shield is wrapped, not braided, so itis SUPER easy to work with. Combine this cable with high quality Neutrik connectors, and you should be set for life!
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3920
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post

Thanks guys. Your responses pointed me in the right direction to do my research. I just ordered 60 ft. of Mogami 2319. It's a little thinner than the 2524, but should be just right for my stompbox rack project with runs of less than 2 ft. I checked out the lavacable website, but couldn't find any bulk cable for sale.

Bill, tgo
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8176
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 5:20 pm:   Edit Post

Alan; what kind of turnaround time does he have? The last order I placed with Bayou Cable took quite awhile as he was pretty backed up at the time.
ajdover
Senior Member
Username: ajdover

Post Number: 720
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post

It's pretty quick, Dave. He can have an order filled well inside a week if I'm not mistaken. I can give him a call if you like and find out.

Alan
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8180
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 1:08 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks Alan! I'm planning to make a few more changes to my rig and will probably need a few more patch cables.
cje
Junior
Username: cje

Post Number: 15
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 7:17 pm:   Edit Post

You'll like working with the 2319, from what I remember!
What kind of connectors will you be using?
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3933
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 8:18 am:   Edit Post

I got some relatively inexpensive ones from Orange County Speaker - a company I found on ebay that has some excellent deals. (I recently bought their version of the Shure SM58, which sells for less than $30!, and it appears to be a pretty good mike - very similar to the Shure!) Anyway the connector brand is GLS Audio. I found some good reviews about them on the net. I got some of the old fashioned flat 90 degree connectors, and some straits. I plan on using some George L's I already have for the very short (<2") runs from loop to loop as these connections don't move. I like the George L's if the connection is stationary, but I don't trust them if the wire will be moving (like when you pull out the sliding shelf that will hold the pedals). I just couldn't bring my self to use $5-$7.50 connectors when I need almost 50 of them. So long as I do a good soldering job I expect they'll be sufficient. We shall see.

Bill, tgo

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