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artswork99
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Username: artswork99

Post Number: 855
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 6:52 am:   Edit Post

A percussionist friend sent this along to me this morning...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4HnTSYvJWc
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8788
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 8:33 am:   Edit Post

There was a previous thread some time ago on this guy; as I recall there is a series of these "lessons".
pauldo
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Username: pauldo

Post Number: 283
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post

Yes the next series is Level 13 - 18; the amazing part is he is wearing what appears to be a mid-weight winter jacket and doesn't even break a sweat. . . .

He continues up to level 24..... let me know when he gets to Level 42! :-D
artswork99
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Username: artswork99

Post Number: 856
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post

I missed that one Dave... but yes I did watch other videos by him as well. Sorry for the redundancy.
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 1068
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post

When I watch guys like that I am amazed and awed by the technique, some may dispel it but it really is amazing that he can solo at such a incredible pace and never misses a beat.
It takes all to make a bass player and even if that is not your thing it must have taken years of practice and I respect him for it
And of course it really does groove...
chrisalembic
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Username: chrisalembic

Post Number: 75
Registered: 3-2009
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post

the dude is pretty impressive... you can tell he has been working really(!!) hard cause, technically, he seems to be able to play just anything.. and all that on a wide necked yamaha 6 string lol
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8790
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 2:56 pm:   Edit Post

His latest video, of his band X Press is very good.

Art, I ran a quick search but couldn't find the prior thread; but it's nice to revisit stuff like this.
artswork99
Senior Member
Username: artswork99

Post Number: 857
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 4:34 pm:   Edit Post

Nice, I like hearing him with a band! Thanks
enzo
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Username: enzo

Post Number: 136
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 8:12 pm:   Edit Post

Yeah that's Gianni Serino. I remember the first video I watched of him was with a tiny bass...now that's a short scale !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcunoeIhPl0&feature=related
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8791
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 8:17 pm:   Edit Post

Yes, that's tiny scale.
john_judge
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Username: john_judge

Post Number: 185
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 8:32 pm:   Edit Post

Gianni Serino, I know of him through a friend and have seen his playing grow over a short period of time, but I will tell you this, his two greatest secrets to speed playing is fist super low action and second is the speed plate that is between the two pickups, ultimately no rest strokes and just barely digging in, so your fingers feel like they are just running across water, your touch becomes lighter and you have to learn to play with more volume gains to compensate but you will increase your speed in time , but if you were to play his bass with a normal technique, you will have some serious buzzing and string noise going on. I cant' remember which one but I think number 12 or 13 was one of my favorites.
I could use some speed training myself, the fingers sure do get slow and old fast when you hit over 50 and soon to be 56 , gosh where did time go? My next Ad or endorsement might be selling life insurance for Bass players from a retirement home ! Lol
Anyway Gianni is a master of the light touch and of course playing with all five fingers on the right hand, but if you want some speed then build you a rest plate, easy to do just be sure to glue some thick felt or rubber on the back so not to scratch your Alembic,once you develop the lighter touch of playing then any Bass you play on will be easy to have more speed even without a plate because you trained your hand to do it for you everytime

(Message edited by John Judge on September 26, 2009)
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 1069
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 4:32 am:   Edit Post

Speed plate..err don't get that..is there a clearer picture of it..I don't understand how it works..sorry for the dumb question
eligilam
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Username: eligilam

Post Number: 205
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 4:39 am:   Edit Post

Terryc, you can see it between the pickups on the first video linked in this thread. Gary Willis uses a similar thing (he calls it "the ramp").

http://www.garywillis.com/pages/bass/bassmanual/theramp.html
john_judge
Intermediate Member
Username: john_judge

Post Number: 186
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 6:30 am:   Edit Post

A Dumb question Terry is one not asked!...Nicely illustrated Will with a nice simple description of the volume compensation principle.
I play dynamically a lot up on the fingerboard but the things I run into there is I have to tap hard otherwise there's volume loss, thus the John Entwhistle technique of tapping, but the advantage is being able to add Harmonics in the playing, any note, anytime!

The picture's that Will posted is a perfect example of the difference of Finger depth going into the strings, Thats why most Bass players who have had classical guitar or Flamenco Guitar training play Bass so fast so clean, using all five fingers with perfect Depth control, where as most of us Use deep Rest strokes with our fingers resting against the string below the note we just played. It's like when you see Stanley play an upright his hand is cocked most of the time around 45 degree's or better so not to dig in to deep on the upright which would slow you way down, so rather than the tip of the finger digging in, he is using part of the tip and side of the fingers for better speed and control and consistency of technique.

I will have to buy you a Tankard of Ale when I get over there Terry to loosen you up, so you won't ever worry again about asking questions on my post. When I do post on the Alembic site, if you look carefully I like to leaves things open for question and discussion and most of all... input, simply because.. I enjoy the interacting with others, after all, this wouldn't be a Forum without all those things, it would just be another chapter in the John Judge story of "I was captured by an Alien Bass player from Mars and returned to earth five years later" and if I was going to be the only one telling it all, than I might as well write a book about it...Hmmmm I probably need to anyway Lol! but finding the time is another thing, Terry, can't wait to cross the pond and meet you guys, it will be a blast!
artswork99
Senior Member
Username: artswork99

Post Number: 858
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 7:55 am:   Edit Post

Thanks for the explanation... I saw that between the pick-ups and wondered how it was utilized.
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 1070
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post

john..you are quite welcome to buy me a beer as I will back to you.
You are never too old to learn and yes look forward to it.
I rehearsed today at the singers house with new band, he has a music room with a pc and I showed the band the YT vid of Gianni..the guitarist was absolutely amazed and so was the drummer.
I am petty good at woodworking and may construct a speed block to out on one of other basses.
Again thanks to both of you for the thorough explanation
byoung
Senior Member
Username: byoung

Post Number: 1241
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 2:32 pm:   Edit Post

Italians could read the phone book and it would sound romantic.

*sigh*

Missing Paul.
chrisalembic
Member
Username: chrisalembic

Post Number: 76
Registered: 3-2009
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 8:41 am:   Edit Post

while we are talking about italian bass players... lemme show you guys Dario Deidda... for me this guy has put a new meaning to electric bass in jazz.. one of the best:

www.myspace.com/dariodeidda
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 421
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 9:22 am:   Edit Post

I just listened to all of tunes on Dario Deidda'a "my space" link .

Excellent indeed ! I am now a new fan !
Thanks for the link .
chrisalembic
Member
Username: chrisalembic

Post Number: 77
Registered: 3-2009
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 9:46 am:   Edit Post

thats great man!! .. the vocabulary, feel and voice he has in his playing is just something else.

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