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toma_hawk01
Senior Member
Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 446
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 7:07 pm:   Edit Post

How does it feel to let an old bass go?

I ask this question because, a new year is around the corner, and as a tradition, I clean out things which are no longer needed or desired.

For example, I am tossing away an old Ibanez bass I purchased in 1980 (almost 30 years ago...). The bass is empty without pickups, neck or controls period. The body is lifeless and looking at the exposed wood, I was surprised a company would even consider this wood fit for being a bass.

Anyway, I kept this thing for years thinking I would customize it, but as the years gone by, I done nothing with it.

Today, the journey with this bass is over, and it's a little sad, because this bass had been with me for so long.

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on December 13, 2009)
toma_hawk01
Senior Member
Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 447
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 7:19 pm:   Edit Post

Yeah, I know...it's sCRAP. :-)

tmoney61092
Advanced Member
Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 295
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 7:26 pm:   Edit Post

i've never thrown away an old bass, i have my first bass(Ibanez GSR 190) that i've taken apart, stripped, put back together and am now using the bridge on a custom project(with Alembic elctronics) but i could never get rid of her because of the centimental value she holds, i also plan on putting it back together and giving her to my kid some day :-D

~Taylor
toma_hawk01
Senior Member
Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 448
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 7:29 pm:   Edit Post

I am lighting a match to it... This is great fire wood. Just kidding...

The bass is now in the recycling can. It's only a memory now.


(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on December 13, 2009)
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 572
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 7:41 pm:   Edit Post

It could be refinished. Schaller bridge installed. Alembic PJ pickups or Bartolini's installed and either a Warmoth or Moses graphite neck installed. And there you have it ; a not that bad beater Bass! I have done that before and played them for a while to tweak them in right and then let them go to a deserving young player or friend. The Karmic return is great !

(Message edited by sonicus on December 14, 2009)
mike1762
Senior Member
Username: mike1762

Post Number: 402
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 7:47 pm:   Edit Post

As soon as you get your new bass, send me your old piece of crap blondie. LOL
toma_hawk01
Senior Member
Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 449
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 9:17 pm:   Edit Post

Let's see... I'll be around 75 years old.

If I am still a mere mortal, I'll be jamming Shorty (Blondie) and Tommy without a care until my judgment day.
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2520
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 4:14 am:   Edit Post

"The bass is now in the recycling can. It's only a memory now. "

Shame - it could have gone to a worthy cause e.g. high school crafting department or a community musicians collective.

Graeme
toma_hawk01
Senior Member
Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 450
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 7:07 am:   Edit Post

Graeme,

A true gift is never perceived as one's garbage.

I remember when I bought my first home. My cousin and his wife came over, and seen my garage was without an automatic garage opener, so they came over with this very old spare machine they had for years (10 years or more).

So, these guys all of a sudden started taking something out of the car, and all along, I didn't know, what they'd bring.

Anyway, they took all the old rusted parts out of the car, and smiled and said:

"Here you go Cousin... we brought something for you, a garage door machine... We had this thing for years, and all you have to do is slap this baby up..."

To make a long story short...

I told my cousin, and his wife to pack that thing, right back in his car and take it back -- to where ever they'd stored it, because that was pure junk, and should be thrown away and used as scrap metal.

They both looked at me, and started "cracking-up" laughing, because they knew I was on to them...

They knew their gift was junk. In their hearts, they knew I was right -- "pure junk" and that's why their hearts reviled the laughter. They were busted.

Now, that situation had been over 20 years ago, and on occasions, me and my cousins still laugh about the whole thing.

I don't think it's a shame to throw away shoes with holes in the soles. Clearly, to give a brethren soul holey shoes on what considered "junk", is unthinkable. I give shoes away with soles.

I think it a shame, to give junk, and think one could earn good karma with junk.

Peace and Love.
hydrargyrum
Senior Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 702
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 7:11 am:   Edit Post

Let's not forget that one man's trash, is another man's treasure.
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2522
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 7:30 am:   Edit Post

hal.
From your picture, this is clearly not Junk as I would define it. It would be easy enough to create a perfectly useable bass with bits from the warmoth catalogue.

Graeme

p.s. I enjoyed your story and do understand where you're coming from. Peace and love right back at ya ;-)

(Message edited by jacko on December 14, 2009)
toma_hawk01
Senior Member
Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 451
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 7:32 am:   Edit Post

If anyone see value of my junk, they are free to rummage through my garbage or go to the sanitation fields, and go at it.

I will never feel guilty about throwing away trash.
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2523
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 7:36 am:   Edit Post

Hey hal. I'm not trying to lay a guilt trip on you - just looking at possibilities. We have alot of 'Charity' shops in the town i live in (here in Scotland) so it's very easy for us to recycle anything we can see the slightlest value in. I'm sure many of the items we've sent along will have gone straight into the bin ;-)

Graeme
toma_hawk01
Senior Member
Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 452
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 7:47 am:   Edit Post

Graeme,

I understood what you meant.

You have a great heart, and you sounded like those great people I honored as great teachers in my up-bringing.

"We saved everything, and made something with nothing."

Thank you G.
serialnumber12
Senior Member
Username: serialnumber12

Post Number: 617
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 8:14 am:   Edit Post

That's a good idea we could use more wood crafting musical instruments classes / projects in our schools!
hydrargyrum
Senior Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 704
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 9:43 am:   Edit Post

It definitely would have been more fun than the giant clothes pin I built in 7th grade shop. Not to drag this out needlessly, but if nothing else, they could use something like this as a template for other instruments, even if it wasn't specifically used for an instrument.
toma_hawk01
Senior Member
Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 456
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post

This discussion is out of scope.

It's just an old clump of Raywood Ash.

If anyone want's this crap, I'll send it to you, then you could feel great about giving it away to a school.

Provide me your address, and $25.00 for shipping and its yours. Oh but, it's too late the garbage truck already came and gone to the garbage cemetery. "He was a good bass."

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on December 14, 2009)
hydrargyrum
Senior Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 706
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post

Jeez Hal, "no reason to get excited." My post was intended as lighthearted speculation. I don't see anything here that anyone has said that is worthy of such a negative and unpleasant reaction. If you don't want to hear opinions that differ from yours, then maybe a blog would be better suited to your interests than a forum.
darkstar01
Intermediate Member
Username: darkstar01

Post Number: 185
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post

not really even sure i see why this kind of thing needs to be posted.... anybody wanna see the garbage i threw out this morning?
toma_hawk01
Senior Member
Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 457
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post

"How does it feel to let an old bass go?."

This was my question. Some how it became a moral discussion of: Hal you should had did this, or Hal you should had done that...

I clearly understand the values of giving and receiving "hand-me-downs" and I expressed my respect and appreciation for those who would had done differently if the same bass was in their hands.

Frankly, what I wanted to know, had anyone removed a bass from their possessions.

Also, I suggest reading the context of my message before raising the idea about me being excited. But if you think I am excited over this discussion, your kidding yourself. It was an innocent topic that I thought was interesting, nothing more.

Now, I'll include this in a jokingly way...

For over 28 years, the Ibanez survived both toffs (Goodwill and The Garbage Can). I would say that's pretty good for such a cheaply made piece of Raywood Ash. LOL :-)


Thanks Darkstar, I am out. This is my last post here. That was a moment of clarity for me. A new year is coming. Time for a change of climate.

Peace and Love everybody!


(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on December 14, 2009)
benson_murrensun
Advanced Member
Username: benson_murrensun

Post Number: 201
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 1:34 pm:   Edit Post

I like to save old parts until I have enough of them to throw together an instrument, and then give it away to a beginner or charitable organization.
tmoney61092
Advanced Member
Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 296
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post

theres no reason for this thread to have even have been started, my opinion, keep stuff such as throwing thigns away to yourself and not to everyone else one here who clearly have different opinions, just throwing this out there, but for future references, keep these kinds of things out of The Club

~Taylor

P.S.- this is not an attack on Hal, i'm saying this to all members
hydrargyrum
Senior Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 707
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 2:42 pm:   Edit Post

I threw away a tissue earlier. Anyone want to share thoughts on it? Please limit your discussion to used tissues though. (Hey, maybe I should have donated it). :-)
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 573
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 3:19 pm:   Edit Post

HI Hal,
Please do not be offended by my post #572.

Happy Holidays to you and your loved ones ______
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 1138
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 6:36 am:   Edit Post

You all realise thank junk of yesteryear becomes antiques in the future.
Just think of all that old furniture that went to be crushed or burnt are now worth a lot.
And lest us not forget the bass that looked like junk that was Jaco's and worth $45,000 because it was played by him.
Some stuff you have to throw out, I have done it in the past and regretted it but each to there own but us musicians tend to become very attached to any part of a guitar or bass. Maybe we should be like Hal and be more subjective about the whole issue
the_jester
New
Username: the_jester

Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 9:51 am:   Edit Post

Value is subjective.

I know people in my family who are pack-rats. They have so much stuff in their house, you "barely" could walk through the front door. It's insane to be care takers of objects.

I have a Horner guitar body "strat-style" I would love to give away, or toss in recycle bin.

If anybody want it, it's yours - Just pay for shipping. It's junk to me, and I hope it's your treasure. Personally, a Walmart guitar is better than this crap. No hype here, it's junk to me, but if you want it to give to schools, here's your chance to be a hero.

I carried this stuff through the 3 decades, and I am not "even" the same guy, when I bought it. My vision for tomorrow don't includes these things.
Hey, maybe you could do better with this free stuff.

(Message edited by the_jester on December 15, 2009)
the_jester
New
Username: the_jester

Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post


hydrargyrum
Senior Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 714
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post

It'd be foolish to pay to ship the thing, but if I had it in my possession, I wouldn't think twice about giving it to a school. It would still make a great template, as I said previously.
mike1762
Senior Member
Username: mike1762

Post Number: 404
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post

My head hurts...
the_jester
New
Username: the_jester

Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post

What the world needs now...

"Is not another copy of a stratocaster template."

Now, it's really heading to the garbage...
Only you can save this body from a path of doom.

Sorry folks, it been good 30 year run with this guitar, but I have to make room for my Toma_Hawk!

(Message edited by the_jester on December 15, 2009)
hydrargyrum
Senior Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 715
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post

LOL! I can't disagree with you on that point. :-)
paulman
Senior Member
Username: paulman

Post Number: 402
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 1:25 pm:   Edit Post

*stands*

It's junk, the tailpiece routing is all off center

*ducks*

(Message edited by paulman on December 15, 2009)
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4212
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 1:53 pm:   Edit Post

How about a thread on what to do with the odd sock when one gets lost?

Bill, tgo
the_jester
New
Username: the_jester

Post Number: 8
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 1:53 pm:   Edit Post

That's a good observation Paul, but the view you have on this this object, follows a different set of rule from a design and engineering perspective.

Therefore, here's a picture with the hardware to prove balance.


As Paul Harvey would say:

"Now you know, the rest of the story...
GOOD DAY!"


the_jester
New
Username: the_jester

Post Number: 9
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 2:07 pm:   Edit Post

It's still junk, but if anybody want this crap, I'll send it, otherwise it's thumbs down, and goes to the grinder as asphalt.

(Message edited by the_jester on December 15, 2009)
darkstar01
Intermediate Member
Username: darkstar01

Post Number: 187
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 2:54 pm:   Edit Post

how many times are you going to post the same thing hal? i think we get it.
the_jester
New
Username: the_jester

Post Number: 10
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 3:14 pm:   Edit Post

There was a question of the bridge routing being off center. The pictures I added, shows that the bridge are designed congruent to the balance and symmetry to the fasters.

The first picture is a bass, and this second series of pictures are my old strat-o-caster-copy electric guitar.

Sorry to irritate you with this.
I feel the same way about alcohol/coke topics.

So with much respect, I will not show another picture depicting my musical junk which was once of much praise and kept... now, headed to a very enjoyable toss.
tmoney61092
Advanced Member
Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 301
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post

how about stop posting on this topic? sounds like a legit idea to me

~Taylor
the_jester
Junior
Username: the_jester

Post Number: 11
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post

What harm had I created in this posting?

Is this kind of stuff offensive to you?

If true, please describe how this topic is offensive?

Are you some hall monitor with a bull horn or something LOL?

(Message edited by the_jester on December 15, 2009)
the_jester
Junior
Username: the_jester

Post Number: 12
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 3:40 pm:   Edit Post

I understand now.

No need to explain any farther...

I am done...

I just wanted to find out if anybody wanted this stuff.

Peace on Earth and Goodwill to all!
tmoney61092
Advanced Member
Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 302
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 3:50 pm:   Edit Post

no, i'm tired of getting bullsh*t e-mails from people arguing, who gives a flying f*ck? just stop it

~Taylor
flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 2309
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 6:54 pm:   Edit Post

said it before and i say it again
i believe in free speech and typing
however in hakim's case......
post something when you have something with substance in it.
mona lisa with a tomahawk?
selling my tomahawk?
this retarded post...
a ftc with 400 posts?
even kevins original bal k didnt have that many
self absorbed dweeb
tmoney61092
Advanced Member
Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 306
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 7:00 pm:   Edit Post

agreed, i hate getting e-mails about stuff thats just like, " look at this!!! oh, just kidding, :-p" it gets annoying after a long stressful day

~Taylor
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4223
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 9:38 pm:   Edit Post

Hal:

May I suggest that if you truly "just wanted to find out if anybody wanted this stuff", it would have been more appropriate to post a thread entitled:

"Does Anybody Want This Stuff?"

or

"Free Stuff".

A lot of the above B.S. would have been avoided.

Bill, tgo
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2378
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 3:51 am:   Edit Post

Taylor - why not change the preferences on your Club profile, so you will no longer get e-mail notifications when people post on the forum.
byoung
Senior Member
Username: byoung

Post Number: 1246
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post

I'm just mad because I have to keep updating my killfile.

It's like the full moon every day of the month.

{edited to remove overtness}

(Message edited by byoung on December 22, 2009)

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