| Author | Message | ||
| mario_farufyno
Advanced Member Username: mario_farufyno Post Number: 391 Registered: 9-2008 |
Hey Guys, have you ever heard about this twisted neck Bass? http://littleguitarworks.com/torzal-natural-twist/ http://littleguitarworks.com/instruments/custom-instruments/ | ||
| darkstar01
Intermediate Member Username: darkstar01 Post Number: 189 Registered: 6-2005 |
i've seen these before, never played one though... aren't the dingwall fanned fret basses like this, too? or any instrument with fanned frets, for that matter. | ||
| 811952
Senior Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 1780 Registered: 10-2003 |
This is completely different than fanned frets. It looks interesting and I'd like to try one. Fanned frets have a different (optimal) scale length for each string, whereas the twisted neck is an ergonomic proposition in a different (twisted) plane with nearly equal or equal scale lengths per string. There are some creative problem-solvers out there.. ;) John | ||
| mike1762
Senior Member Username: mike1762 Post Number: 410 Registered: 1-2008 |
I'm holding out for a twisted AND fanned fret neck. | ||
| darkstar01
Intermediate Member Username: darkstar01 Post Number: 190 Registered: 6-2005 |
i've definitely seen a bass that has both. i'm looking for it... i'll post it when i find it. | ||
| keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 1459 Registered: 2-2005 |
I never thought about warping a neck on purpose. Keith | ||
| 811952
Senior Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 1783 Registered: 10-2003 |
http://www.elutherie.org/2007/06/bass-guitar-magazine-reviews-the-torzal-twist-bass-guitar.html | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 4242 Registered: 7-2004 |
Burrell guitars makes guitars with twisted necks and bodies. I played one once. Very unusual and interesting. It played better than I expected, but I didn't notice any advantage over more traditional shapes and the action was a little high for my taste. Bill, tgo | ||
| bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 1334 Registered: 9-2002 |
I once worked shortly for a company doing prototypes of a guitar marketed by a pickup company that had a 'twisted' neck/fingerboard. This was conventional spaced/length frets, normal fingerboard radius, etc. It was as if you put the body in a vise, grabbed the head with vise-grips, and twisted it, taking the fingerboard with it. This was a neckthru piece, so it was a challenge to get everything right, then be able to repeat it reliably in a production run. The guitar in question is for sale now, with a conventional (Non-twisted) neck. In retrospect, this is on of those ideas that seems correct . . . your hand does rotate its grip somewhat as you reach out . . . but duplicating this in wood is hard. I could see molding it in carbon fibre, but can't see making ANY money doing it. And of course, there's a practical limit as to how far you can rotate the nut in relation to the end of the neck before the strings dampen out just from the twist. And as always, most guitar players do NOT want the wheel reinvented. Now, let me show you my flying car with the 100 mpg carburetor . . . | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 4244 Registered: 7-2004 |
Joey: Isn't that the one that runs on water that the government won't let us have? Bill, tgo | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 9053 Registered: 5-2002 |
Bill mentioned the action, and I'm having a hard time imagining how a truss rod adjustment is going to work on a twisted neck. | ||
| 811952
Senior Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 1787 Registered: 10-2003 |
Truss rods would be in different planes. A friend of mine mentioned that Ed Friedland (guy in the video I linked above) has awful left-hand technique... john | ||
| bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 1335 Registered: 9-2002 |
Yeah, water, and . . . oh hell, gotta go, black helicopters incoming ! ! ! | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 9055 Registered: 5-2002 |
John; yeah, he keeps pinching his wrist. It almost makes you wonder if he's pinching his wrist because the neck is twisted in that direction. That's a nice job he's doing of that jazz standard who's name I can't think of at the moment. Can anyone help me out? | ||
| chrisalembic
Member Username: chrisalembic Post Number: 98 Registered: 3-2009 |
"St Thomas" This guy is quite a bass player indeed! | ||
| chrisalembic
Member Username: chrisalembic Post Number: 99 Registered: 3-2009 |
Hey Dave, if you you are interested in jazz standards played on eletric bass, check out Dario Deidda from Italy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ono-jJPGCs | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 9056 Registered: 5-2002 |
Yes; St. Thomas! Thanks Chris! | ||
| peoplechipper
Advanced Member Username: peoplechipper Post Number: 210 Registered: 2-2009 |
I can see the ergonomic advantages of the twisted neck, but good luck getting a fret dress or refret; I've done guitar repair and I am a Goldsmith who's king hell with a file, and the prospect of levelling that fretwork out is a nightmare...Tony | ||
| hankster
Advanced Member Username: hankster Post Number: 228 Registered: 6-2004 |
I've seen Lenny Breau, Jim Hall, Tal Farlow, Joe Diorio, James Burton, Albert Lee, Bruce Cockburn, Steve Vai, Jeff Healey, Doc Watson, Jerry Garcia, Frank Reckard, and countless others on plain old guitars. They all seemed to be doing all right. Does the world really need this? | ||
| hankster
Advanced Member Username: hankster Post Number: 229 Registered: 6-2004 |
PS. Oh, yeah, and on the bass side - Prakash John, Marcus Miller, Jaco, Victor Wooten, Francis Rocco Prestia, Jerry Scheff, Pops Popwell...same story. Not that I denigrate technological advancement. But sometimes I shake my head. I'd be happy if someone could convince me that this is a good idea, though...always try to keep an open mind. |
