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Username: jx2638

Post Number: 69
Registered: 2-2008
Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 9:25 pm:   Edit Post

I'm not sure if it's a partial loss of hearing or the tiny rooms we play or a combination of both...but it's made me wonder if there's anyway to be able to hear what I'm playing better without turning up my Fender Twin amp?
I could mic the amp, limiting the signal to the P.A. while increasing the signal to the monitors...but then everyone gets more guitar. What about an external speaker fed from the Twin amp...but can that volume be adjusted up/down?
Or, a floor monitor fed from the ext speaker jack of the twin amp?

Would love any thoughts/suggestions...thanks!
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 696
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 9:41 pm:   Edit Post

1) Have a tech wire a preamp out from the Fender amp and get a separate power amp and speaker.2) Or take a feed from a direct box to a monitor amp & speaker.( 2 might be undesirable if effects are concerned )
Username: hg30904

Post Number: 76
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 7:15 am:   Edit Post

Try to put the amp on a stand, tilted back. Usually positioning the speaker this way helps the player hear better and cuts down on onstage volume.
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1818
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post

I have a fender twin amp I have overcome this issue to a large extent by placing my twin on top of its flight case which places it about chest height, then putting it about 8 feet behind me. I can hear it perfectly then. Sometimes I have to make allowances as I'm normally positioned at the side of the drummer so having the amp that far behind can spill into his cymbal, tom and ambient mics.

I also have a bit of feed into my on-stage monitor if there is enough channels to get a personal mix.

I guess you could also try in-ear monitors too.
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Username: hankster

Post Number: 231
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 2:56 pm:   Edit Post

Anything is better for your hearing protection than turning up your twin or putting your twin closer to your ears, if the twin is the main source of your front-of-house guitar sound. I would suggest an external wedge speaker with a separate volume control.

Username: jx2638

Post Number: 70
Registered: 2-2008
Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for the suggestions...will mull options.
I haven't seen wedge monitors with volume control...only the personal monitors w/ 5" speakers that mount to a mic stand. Anybody know of a wedge unit w/ volume? Thanks again.
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 698
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 3:40 am:   Edit Post

Hi, As I stated in my post #696 this will enable the same results as a wedge unit with a volume control. You can minimize the total SPL reading (Sound Pressure Level )by turning down the Fender and increasing the monitor feed. The only big draw back that I see is a change of spacial phase and time alignment for recording and microphone placement. You could incorporate one of those personal monitors that you mention in your post #70 from the preamp out feed from the Fender twin if you choose too. This is all very simple plug &play . You might also plug your guitar in an active direct box and then spilt the signal with the Fender Twin and the personal monitor if you have an aversion to getting a preamp out wired from the Fender Amp _ again plug & play .

Sonic Regards.

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