| Author | Message | ||
| angelboy
New Username: angelboy Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2004 |
Best bass players tune to a)listen to and b) play.... Mine would be....... a)Dumb Sh*t - Leathal Injection/Ice Cube (I think it's a Parlament sample but I don't know which one) b) Kansas city milkman - Physical Presence/Level 42 I'll remember something better no doubt after I post this!!! | ||
| son_of_magni
New Username: son_of_magni Post Number: 9 Registered: 1-2004 |
Flecktones, Sinister Minister (Victor Wooten) Anything from the "Pastorious, Metheny, Bley, Ditmas" album (just unbelieveable stuff) All of Stanley's work on the first RTF album I could go on for a long time... | ||
| bracheen
Intermediate Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 136 Registered: 11-2003 |
My rule of thumb (pun is not intended) is: If Jack Bruce played it, it's worth listening to and learning. If we could steal him away from "you know who" over to Alembic that would be just perfect. Sam | ||
| gbarchus
Junior Username: gbarchus Post Number: 34 Registered: 6-2002 |
James, Jerry, Jack, Jaco | ||
| 811952
Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 64 Registered: 10-2003 |
Paul McCartney, Tony Levin, Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, John Entwistle and of course Jamerson, Babbitt, Clarke and Pastorius. And now that I think about it, John Paul Jones, Jack Bruce and Phil Lesh (he's so melodic). A very unnoticed player from back in the day is Kasim Sultan of Utopia/Todd Rundgren, who is playing guitar for Meat Loaf these days.. Boy oh boy, I sure narrowed that down.. NOT!! PtJoII | ||
| harald_rost
Junior Username: harald_rost Post Number: 40 Registered: 6-2002 |
Colin Hodgkinson ... very underrated IMHO - that's why I always put him on such lists. Harald | ||
| palembic
Senior Member Username: palembic Post Number: 927 Registered: 9-2002 |
Oh ...huh ...the underrated ones that really influenced me. THAT's difficult because mostly one can't remember the name: Rick Laird (with John Maclaughlin), Larry Taylor (with John Mayall and Canned Heat), John Wetton (Roxy Music), John Prakash (Lou Reed and Alice Cooper), Pino Palladino (Paul Young and Elton John). And ...well ...my "mystery-bass-player". I know him playing on a Steve MIller Band record (yes ..those black round things with a hole in the middle ...). Unfortunately I don't remember the record. We had it at home on tape (those tagliatelli on wheels with magnetic characteristics ...) but all theat is lost and I can't locate the CD version. I think that man influenced me most. I was always trying to play along with that tape. Funny ...I never knew who he was ... Paul the bad one | ||
| rami
Advanced Member Username: rami Post Number: 287 Registered: 6-2002 |
In my humble opinion... The greatest living Bass player is Alain Caron. The most amazing fretless player, slapper, and upright player I've ever seen. Check out the album "Basse contre Basse" in which he does a duet with Michel Donato, for starters. - You'll be hooked. Rami (Message edited by rami on January 20, 2004) | ||
| adriaan
Intermediate Member Username: adriaan Post Number: 104 Registered: 6-2002 |
Hey Paul, The bass player for the Steve Miller Band in the 70s and 80s would have been Gerald Johnson or Lonnie Turner (between 76 and 81, "Fly like an Eagle" - no, I don't know these things, I just like to Google). You mean the left-handed guy playing a right-handed bass flipped over? Their hits sure had infectious grooves, so I suppose they're both fine players. Adriaan | ||
| son_of_magni
Junior Username: son_of_magni Post Number: 17 Registered: 1-2004 |
Hey, great list. But don't forget Felix Pappalardi from Mountain, and the incredible Alix Blake! Oh yeah, and Steve Swallow, Charlie Haden, Ray Brown, Dave Holland, and Christian McBride. And of course Mingus... | ||
| bassman10096
Member Username: bassman10096 Post Number: 69 Registered: 7-2003 |
Finally, somebody else who remembers Felix Pappilardi (a New Jersey kid, I believe)!! I thought I was all alone... | ||
| bracheen
Intermediate Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 149 Registered: 11-2003 |
Felix was great! He not only produced Wheels of Fire, one of the two best albums ever, but he played several instruments on it as well. | ||
| son_of_magni
Junior Username: son_of_magni Post Number: 18 Registered: 1-2004 |
Heh, Mountain is one of my favorite rock bands. One of the all time best/classic rock tunes is Mountain's "Travelin' in the Dark" and, of course, "Nantucket Sleighride". Regarding Leslie West, I think the story was, a friend of Felix (Felix was already a producer at the time) told him he had to come see some bar band. After the show Felix said "I guess they're ok, but man that fat kid can sure play guitar!" Felix bought his wife a handgun for protection. Sometime later she killed him with it... very sad | ||
| 811952
Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 65 Registered: 10-2003 |
PTBO, Oh. My. Gosh. My list is incomplete. Wetton is INCREDIBLE. John Prakash is the reason I bought a B.C. Rich way back when. Pino and the Bassist for Steve Miller defined their own sounds. Dee Murray (RIP) was awesome as well. Also, whoever played with Buddy Guy did some really bad-ass playing, and then there's Pete Cetera (listen to Chicago's Dialogue parts I & II for awesome phrasing of the perfect bass line). And Sting builds a good line, as does Kate Bush's bassist (I can't believe I've forgotten his name). And Greg Lake, and David Hungate and Leland Sklar (a good friend does a fair amount of session work with Lee and says he's as nice a guy as you'll ever meet). Tom Fowler, on Overnight Sensation is a master (on an Alembic too), and the guy in Phish... It saddens me that there aren't really any more recent pop/rock players on this list.. :-( As an added bonus for the Hungate fans, I'm told by my session-playing buddy that the bass riff at the end of "Africa" is a "patented" Pete Drake steel guitar riff. Apparently Dave can play them all on bass, and can play a lot of Chet Atkins' stuff as well. Cool.. PtJoII | ||
| dannobasso
Intermediate Member Username: dannobasso Post Number: 115 Registered: 7-2002 |
For those of you who are not afraid of angry music, check out Mudvayne.Funk, thrash, slap, chords. Killer stuff! Don't forget, Jimmy Johnson, Brian Bromberg (just saw him at NAMM), Anthony Jackson, John Myung, John Patatucci, Alphonso Johnson, Billy Sheehan, Michael Manring, Tony Levin, Victor Wooten, Jimmy Haslip, Kim Stone, Andy West, Dave LaRue, Larry Grahmn, Geddy Lee, Steve Harris, John Alderete just to name a few along with those already mentioned. Danno, ( waiting on a Distilate and custom Excel 5) | ||
| palembic
Senior Member Username: palembic Post Number: 933 Registered: 9-2002 |
Brother Adriaan thanks for looking into that. I really don't know but it is BEFORE "fly like an eagle". I don't know a title or nothing ...I think I wil have to go to a CD-store and just check all the Steve MIller CD's. For us it was just a small box with a tape-wheel in it with a sticker "Steve Miller Band" ...no numbers ...no artists ...nothing. But (aaaaaaa that good'ol but) ...thanks, I'll go on for the quest for the lost bass-player LOL. BTW: I forgot Tim Bogert. Funny is that I know that guy only from just 1 record my nephew had in his basement-bar. It was from a group called "Beck, Bogert & Appice". For me the music was loud and kinda square but Ioved the bass. I never knew until YEARS later who played what in that band. so I didn't know Bogert was a bass-player. My nephew never showed me the sleeve. He just answered my question : "who's playing?" "Beck, Bogert & Appice". Mmmmmmmm .... Beck, Bogert & Appice ... Beck, Bogert & Appice ... those names on a row ...really SOUNDING ...no??? Paul the bad one ( in a dreamy mood and now rushing to work ...well ...) | ||
| kenbass4
Member Username: kenbass4 Post Number: 54 Registered: 10-2003 |
Ok, my turn. Besides the obvious Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, John Entwhistle and Tony Levin, there's a relatively unknown guy by the name of Pete Trewavas from Marillion. He and drummmer Ian Mosley have some of the tightest, most complex rhytmic structure I've ever heard. Ken (TEO) | ||
| hollis
New Username: hollis Post Number: 4 Registered: 11-2003 |
To quote a tee shirt from a Dead show many moons ago,"More Philling....Lesh Tasty". | ||
| dean_m
Advanced Member Username: dean_m Post Number: 259 Registered: 7-2002 |
Hey Paul, For a really good fill of classic Tim Bogert, check out any Cactus or Vanilla Fudge cd. I think Rhino Records re-released some classic Cactus stuff. That's true rock and roll bass playing. If you can't find it let me know. I can get it to you. Sorry about the mis-information of your job description in the other thread. Thanks for correcting me. Dino (paul the fake one) | ||
| dean_m
Advanced Member Username: dean_m Post Number: 260 Registered: 7-2002 |
Hey Danno, You were at NAMM??? Did you happen to stop by the Ampeg booth any of the days??? | ||
| dannobasso
Intermediate Member Username: dannobasso Post Number: 116 Registered: 7-2002 |
Yep, I were there as a guest of the LP group. I made my rounds and covered the whole ting! My frigging feet were killing me! I didn't really spend too much time in any one place.Not even with the Dean Girls! My friend Mike Albronda was working the Aguilar booth, another pal Bobby was demoing for Korg, the singer in my band Doomtree, Steve Zing was with LP. Jerry Only was at Dean Markley. I got to talk to Billy Sheehan and Mike Khineely.I never feel too comfortable stopping players and giving platitudes. So I just say thanks for the inspiration and enjoyment that they provided me over the years. I also worked the LP40th anniversary show at the Marriot on Saturday. I helped schlep Alphonso's rigg.(Epifani, Demeter, BGW and Boss w/ Modulus 5's fretted and fretless.) Really nice guy. Shiela E's band and family performed. 48 friggin' mikes on 2 snakes were used. 48 channel console for monitors! LA Sound provided the PA. Steve and Dan from Audio Technica provided the Mikes. I set up the new Genz Benz 212 cabs (2) with the new 600 w head and 2 Diablo 212 combos. LP and Toca percussion and DW drums galore. I did have to move a few new 810 Svt cabs for the gig. Notice how many guys use them but never ever have to move them? With all of the great and fancy instruments there, I still love my Alembics best. You might recognize my mug from my website www.doomtree.com Danno | ||
| valvil
Moderator Username: valvil Post Number: 321 Registered: 7-2002 |
Mingus, Oscar Pettiford and Jimmy Blanton, who's kinda of the father of us all...the first melodic jazz bass player that broke the "root & foundation" tradition. Pitter Patter Panther is one of the coolest pieces for bass ever, a duet with Duke Ellington recorded in 1940. Blanton changed bass forever; I believe he was 20-21 years old at most. Unfortunately he died of tubercolosis less than 2 years later. A great shame. Valentino | ||
| palembic
Senior Member Username: palembic Post Number: 941 Registered: 9-2002 |
Moder, can you give me/us some CD names where Jimmy Blanton is playing? Pitter Patter Panther??? Paul the bad one | ||
| davehouck
Advanced Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 325 Registered: 5-2002 |
Paul; here's a good place to start: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDSUB040401221031110530&sql=Bqraxqj5bojfa | ||
| palembic
Senior Member Username: palembic Post Number: 946 Registered: 9-2002 |
Gee, thanks Dave!!!!! | ||
| bigbadbill
Member Username: bigbadbill Post Number: 69 Registered: 10-2003 |
Hey Ken, I'm starting to wonder if we were separated at birth or something given your list of bass favourites, mine also being Squire, Entwistle and Lee, along with a few others big namers like John Paul Jones and Stan the Man. Others who have been big influences include some fairly unheralded (or even abused!) players like Lemmy (who was my first conscious influence in his Hawkwind days, and who I love to this day, although mention of his name usually goes down like a lead balloon), John McVie of Fleetwood Mac, Sir Paul (my main unconscious - i.e. pre playing- influence), Mike Rutherford of Genesis, Stuart Zender of Jamiroquai, Joey DeMaio (turn it up!)and Leigh Gorman of Bow Wow Wow. Oh, and seeing as I was weaned on big band Jazz and BeBop, although you wouldn't guess it from the list i've just given (my dad is a Jazz trumpet player and wouldn't have any other music on in the house when I was young!), many many jazz guys, from Ray Brown to Neils HHP...in fact my influences run from the ridiculous to the sublime!Lines I love playing at home (I only play originals at gigs etc)are Badia/Boogie Woogie waltz medley (Jaco-8:30) and Come On Come Over (also Jaco), mainly because they're very different stylistically to what I normally do (plus they are damn cool!)Oh, and my favourite bass tone ever is Glenn Hughes on Deep Purple's "Made in Europe", but I suppose that's another thread.... | ||
| bigbadbill
Member Username: bigbadbill Post Number: 70 Registered: 10-2003 |
I can't believe I forgot James...that's Jamerson by the way.... | ||
| kenbass4
Member Username: kenbass4 Post Number: 55 Registered: 10-2003 |
Shaun, Yeah, I can't beleive I forgot Mike and of course Sir Paul! I remember seeing Genesis on the 10th anniversary of "Supper's Ready" That was when he still played that really cool Shergold Double Neck. In Fact, I can credit Mike Rutherford as leading me to Alembic in the first place. He had an Omega Series I, IIRC Ken (TEO) | ||
| palembic
Senior Member Username: palembic Post Number: 949 Registered: 9-2002 |
Broter Shaun you were a big help. The "Bow-wow-wow" bass-player was also an inluence on me and unknown by name. Well honest, the evening before yesterday I was trying to play along with "Do you wanna hold me". I said TRYING ...my fingers went in a knot after 10 minutes HA! Paul the bad one | ||
| bracheen
Intermediate Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 157 Registered: 11-2003 |
I remember when I could play for 10 minutes straight without having to take a nap afterward. Those were the days. Sam | ||
| kenbass4
Member Username: kenbass4 Post Number: 57 Registered: 10-2003 |
Sam, You can remember....what were we talking about again?? :-) | ||
| bracheen
Intermediate Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 159 Registered: 11-2003 |
I don't know Ken, I'm not sure I understood the question when I first read it but am pretty sure we've strayed from the intended path. Sam | ||
| dnburgess
Intermediate Member Username: dnburgess Post Number: 175 Registered: 1-2003 |
Just a few that haven't been mentioned: Glen Cornick (Jethro Tull, Wild turkey, Paris), Mick Karn (Japan, solo - is the reason why my next bass after the Nightbass will be fretless), Noel Redding, Berry Oakley (Allman Bros), Louis Johnson, Bernard Edwards, Kenny Gradney (Little Feat), Chuck Rainey | ||
| willie
New Username: willie Post Number: 9 Registered: 11-2003 |
did anybody mention les claypool | ||
| lindoom
New Username: lindoom Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2004 |
HOW ABOUT PERCY JONES OF BRAND X ANYONE REMEMBER HIM? | ||
| 811952
Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 67 Registered: 10-2003 |
Percy Jones puts the motherbiatch in motherbiatch! Ah, yes, Brand X... Way up there on the list of music I'll never, ever be able to play well. There's a clip of him standing still (relatively speaking) on the BassLobster (http://www.aic.se/basslob/) page.. John the Paul the John one two (and only 900 or so posts shy of Paul TBO) | ||
| echo008
Junior Username: echo008 Post Number: 34 Registered: 2-2003 |
boogie on reggae woman - Stevie Wonder damn what a great song!!! | ||
| son_of_magni
Junior Username: son_of_magni Post Number: 21 Registered: 1-2004 |
Wow, someone else knows about Brand X! Pretty much all downhill for Phil Collins after that. I'm going to have to set up a turntable and play some Brand X tonight... | ||
| lindoom
New Username: lindoom Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2004 |
yeah man i did the same thing today unorthodox behaviour what an album it certainly smacks of euphoric hysteria! Percy definatly put the motherbiatch in. another overlooked bassist is Patrick O'hearn and his time with Zappa by the way BABY SNAKES just came out on dvd great live show of the mothers REQUIERED VEIWING by all thats your homework for this weekend | ||
| bigideas
New Username: bigideas Post Number: 3 Registered: 1-2004 |
these are great players, but i'm not seeing Les Claypool anywhere (i'm hoping i missed it). sure his stuff is a little odd, but come on. people learning/playing bass should listen to his stuff just to hear how far you can take bass playing in the opposite direction from most mainstream playing. | ||
| palembic
Senior Member Username: palembic Post Number: 976 Registered: 9-2002 |
I just remember I grew into bass, playing along with the "4-way street" live album of CSN&Y. Calvin "Fuzzy" Samules played bass there and did an excellent job later with Steven Stills' Manassas project. Paul the bad one Gregory Reeves on "deją vu" was out of my league I discovered. | ||
| musikill
Junior Username: musikill Post Number: 44 Registered: 12-2003 |
It would seem that all of the names mentioned above would just about cover it, but I would like to add these five to the list: Percy Faith - Brand X (I didn't see him mentioned until I looked again) Check out the Live disk from the mid '70's. Ron Wood - Bass on early Jeff Beck disks. Ron laid down some classic solid motown style lines with a great tube overdrive sound. Herbie Flowers - Bass for Lou Reed and David Bowie in 70's. Check out David Bowie Live at the Philadelphia Towers (if you can find it - it's out of print). Herbie played solid, melodic lines. Real nice to listen to and right in the pocket. Billy Cox - Jimi Hendrix Bootsy Collins - This guy gave even the godfather J.B. a few lessons! greg (Message edited by musikill on January 28, 2004) (Message edited by musikill on January 28, 2004) | ||
| dannobasso
Intermediate Member Username: dannobasso Post Number: 123 Registered: 7-2002 |
If I'm not mistaken Percy Faith had an orchestra and made music that competed with Mitch Miller, Peter Lemonjello and Perry Como. Percy Jones was the guy who later used Foderas. If you Claypool fans pick up his latest Primus CD it has a collection of their videos and some live performances. How he can sing and play that stuff is amazing. I used to cover John the fisherman, Wynona and Blue Collared Tweekers. Was Dave Pegg mentioned? Danno | ||
| bracheen
Intermediate Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 181 Registered: 11-2003 |
I think almost every bass player past or present has been mentioned except.... GEEZER BUTLER Did you get your question answered, Paul (TAO)? This is kinda like asking what's the best string. Sam | ||
| bigbadbill
Member Username: bigbadbill Post Number: 76 Registered: 10-2003 |
I saw "Disco Les" and gang supporting Rush on the Roll the Bones tour and he was brilliant, I've got to say. Never before has a bass player had me scratching my head like he did, and as I love really individual players, yep, I was impressed (just bought the DVD actually). And Geezer.... I forgot Geezer.....and Mick Karn!!! By the way, Paul TBO, if you think "Do You wanna Hold Me" is tough, try "Sexy Eiffel Towers", or "Gold He Said";and I believe Leigh (or Leroy as he was known back in the day) had only been playing bass a few years at the time... | ||
| alemboid
Junior Username: alemboid Post Number: 32 Registered: 5-2003 |
Ralph Armstrong with Jean Luc Ponty. An overlooked master at in the pocket groove playing. Bill the "Bhudda" Dickens will change your life! Richard Bona live is a way to be re-born when it comes to making a bass sing/cry for mercy! I don't recommend Danny Partridge from the Partridge Family TV series...no pocket grooves there ;-) Bryant | ||
| palembic
Senior Member Username: palembic Post Number: 998 Registered: 9-2002 |
I saw Ralph live in BRussels together with John Mac Laughlin and TMO about 30 yeard ago. Oh boy ....quite a bassplayer!!! It was the first time I heard a bass-player using effects on his bass (wah-wah, fuzztones etc...) Paul the bad one | ||
| bracheen
Intermediate Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 187 Registered: 11-2003 |
Two more Paul! You can do it, you're almost there! | ||
| dannobasso
Intermediate Member Username: dannobasso Post Number: 127 Registered: 7-2002 |
Jonahs Hellborg. Saw him with the second incarnation of Mahavishnu playing doubleneck Wal bass. Getting a Distilate 5 on Tuesday, thanks Mica & Susan for your suggestions. |
