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zn_bassman
Intermediate Member
Username: zn_bassman

Post Number: 112
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 3:03 am:   Edit Post

Hi all,

I have a Status Buzzard-2 and an Alembic Rogue. I'm considering purchase of a Steinberger Synapse as a small, lightweight bass for rehearsals and gigs where neither of these basses are "necessary."

I'm attracted by its hybrid graphite-wood neck and combination of 1 magnetic pickup and 1 piezo. It retails for about USD 1,000, so it's a smaller outlay than an all-graphite Status Streamliner or the compact hybrid Zon model.

Anybody have any experience with this model?

Thanks,

Z
benson_murrensun
Advanced Member
Username: benson_murrensun

Post Number: 259
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post

Glad you brought that up; I have interest in that model as well. I already have a Steinberger Spirit, which I got because it packs nicely on my motorcycle, but it's not a very high-quality instrument. It's built OK, but the inherent sound is lacking. I put on an EMG BT control and it helps alot. But I might be willing to upgrade to a Synapse, if it is of much higher quality. So... anybody know about them?
alembic76407
Senior Member
Username: alembic76407

Post Number: 636
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 4:38 pm:   Edit Post

I have a Steinberger XM-2 it's a wood body with white binding and a graphite neck, great little bass
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 1381
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post

For me, I'd pass it by as I refuse to buy anything even remotely connected to Gibson.

Despite the reasons that they quote as to why the wood body/graphite core is an improvement over the originals, I'd certainly believe it's because they do NOT want to get back to forming all-composite bodies ever again. Don't ever underestimate Gibson's capacity to take a great idea/product and completely ruin it.

If I had to have a Steinberger-esque axe, I get one of the little Hohners: Steinberger hardware already in place, then replace the pedestrian pickups and circuits with the real EMG HB's (still available) and the EMG BTC cicuit (way simpler than trying to score one of the old HazLabs set-ups) and call it a day.

J o e y
benson_murrensun
Advanced Member
Username: benson_murrensun

Post Number: 261
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post

I had a Hohner Steinberger copy prior to getting the Spirit, and the neck took on a VERY strange shape that could not be fixed with the truss rod. Basically, mine was a P.O.S.
cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 693
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 3:13 pm:   Edit Post

"Don't ever underestimate Gibson's capacity to take a great idea/product and completely ruin it."

If you've ever played a 50s Les paul or a 60s SG, go to any Guitar Center to check out the current offerings - and prove this true. They can trash their own great ideas as well as someone else's.

Peter
crobbins
Senior Member
Username: crobbins

Post Number: 593
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 6:59 pm:   Edit Post

"Don't ever underestimate Gibson's capacity to take a great idea/product and completely ruin it."

I bought a 57 reissue goldtop Les Paul a few years ago. I sold it as soon as I got the chance.
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 1383
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 7:20 am:   Edit Post

I basically preferred a Hohner POS to a Spirit POS, though I wouldn't be surprised if they were both built in the same factory under two different contracts.

I'd guess about ten years ago when Gibson bought Trace Elliott (after the exodus of the brain trust to Ashdown), they had Tony Levin on the road doing clinics for Trace. Bening a huge fan, I went to his show at the local Sam Ash. There I corraled several newly-minted Trace executives (former Gibson staffers) and asked them how long it would be before Henry J screwed up Trace and closed it, just like he'd done with Tobias, Steinberger, and Oberheim. Of course they protested mightily that this would NEVER happen and why would I ask such a thing . . . of course, a year later, Trace went under.

This just keeps happening.

J o e y
benson_murrensun
Advanced Member
Username: benson_murrensun

Post Number: 262
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 8:56 am:   Edit Post

Why does that story remind me of Harley-Davidson??? They bought Buell, then recently shut it down (not even making it available to be purchased and continued!). Oh well, I guess my Buell just became a collector's item.
benson_murrensun
Advanced Member
Username: benson_murrensun

Post Number: 263
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 8:58 am:   Edit Post

I guess, also, that this thread is well and sufficiently hijacked! But I am still interesting in anything anyone has to say about the Synapse bass.
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 1386
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post

IF they are still only sold online thru Musician's Friend, I'd be very wary as to where and who take care of any warranty/service issues.

I look for Eric Buell to resurface somewhere else as soon as his no-compete legalities expire. BTW, there's an excellent account of that mess in CYCLE WORLD this month, as well as a fabulous three-part interview at CW's website by John Burns.

Believe me, Harley's management looks like Warren Buffet's crew compared to Gibson.

J o e y

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