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richbass939
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 9:51 am:   Edit Post

Yep. Nothing but accurate and objective info there.
Rich

Oops, sorry. I hijacked a hijack of a hijack of a hijack of a hijack (is my count correct?) of the thread's original topic.
dadabass2001
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post

So who needs a beer?
Mike
hb3
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 9:13 am:   Edit Post

Isn't SC a Scientologist? Sounds like he's still got some thetans/engrams/whatever to get rid of.

On the other hand -- as a self-professed heroin addict, you know, Miles Davis was on drugs. If I was with someone and the only thing they said to me was "SPACE," I might think they were on drugs, too. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
davehouck
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 9:30 am:   Edit Post

Hugh; Miles Davis broke his addiction to heroin in 1954 when he was 28 years old.
davehouck
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 9:37 am:   Edit Post

A brief web search suggests that Stanley Clarke left Scientology in the early '80s.
hb3
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post

Lol. Well, see? Clarke seems all engrammed out in that youtube vid. ;) Anyway, you got me to start looking for info on Clarke and Scientology, and there isn't much. People are saying there was a strong Scientology undercurrent in RTF?
hb3
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post

"Miles was, in reality, a paradox. Himself the victim of a policeman's clubbing (reportedly, racially-inspired), he had the fairness and courage in the late 1950s to defy Black jazzmen's expectations by filling a piano vacancy with a white player, Bill Evans, but then, by all accounts, often racially taunted him. A physical fitness enthusiast (with his own private gym), he nevertheless ingested vast quantities of drugs (sometimes, but not always, for arthritic pain). Forbiddingly gruff and solitary, he was also capable of acts of generosity toward down-at-heels musicians, both African American and white."

from answers.com

I think I also recall seeing Clarke talk about Miles asking him to join his band, but he couldn't do it for whatever reason.
davehouck
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post

Hugh; the point in Miles' life that you are citing did not include heroin. By all accounts he quit heroin in 1954.

my primary source: Milestones, The Music and Times of Miles Davis by Jack Chambers, pp. 177 -179.
hb3
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post

Yes, Dave, I got that. [can we get a "confused" emoticon here?]
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post

In 1954, Stanley Clarke was still peeing in bed at 3 years old.

Peace and Love,

Hal-
hb3
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post

And Bill Evans supposedly wrote a lot more of "Kind of Blue" than he got credit for.
davehouck
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post

Hugh; another book I have is Kind of Blue, The Making of the Miles Dave Masterpiece by Ashley Kahn. Great book about the making of the album; highly recommended if you're interested in how it all came about. And I also have a Bill Evans bio and a Coltrane bio. It was an amazing period in music history.
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post

Hugh, the beauty of Miles Davis, he cultivated the majestic personality of being honest about his flaws and weaknesses, this is what made Miles Great.

On the other hand...
This is what you get, when you are perfect...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6BYd_aQD1Y

Morris Day, with a bass... :-)

"...I was the best musician in the band, and could play better... play rings around anyone..."
- Stanley Clarke

"I brought the bass out of the closet..."
- Stanley Clarke

Well my bass keeps running under the bed..., do you think "Mr. Clarke" could help me with mine?



Peace and Love,

Hal-



(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on July 25, 2010)
hb3
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post

Cool video. Thanks. He does come off as somewhat arrogant. I'm sort of in the middle on the Clarke vs. Davis thing.

And if you haven't seen this, you must check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZhNQhl6qUQ
mike1762
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 4:44 pm:   Edit Post

It takes a degree of narcissism to ever go into the entertainment industry in the first place. For those that venture outside of the "Pop" realm, your main motivation may be to feed your ego. Take a guy like Gene Simmons: he can barely play his instrument (he's probably better than I think he is... maybe), but he knows that. His motivation is to entertain as many people as possible and sell them CDs, lunch boxes, bobble-heads, etc. Stanley Clarke, Miles Davis and other players of that ilk have a limited audience right out of the gate... so why do it? It satisfies something deep within their psyche. One of my favorite quotations is Edward Bulwer-Lytton: "Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." Those guys were/are genious, but they probably aren't great "best friend" material.
bigredbass
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 5:24 pm:   Edit Post

After being around more than a few famous musicians, I can only add this: Basing any opinions on the random press, promotion, and incidental media exposure you may run across, as well as their released projects, is about the same as guessing what a movie actor is like in real life only by their movie roles.

I've never been impressed by the famous at a distance. In some cases, once you know them, they can occasionally be fairly normal people. That's usually not the case, as it's a highly irregular way to earn a living in a very different world than most of us can imagine. The demands of that sort of talent on the rest of one's psyche often results in less than typical behavior in lots of cases. Sadly, the music business is littered with tons of unfortunate stories, as well as some good ones occasionally of people who did stop short of the cliff, so to speak.

I long ago learned to enjoy a performance or a recording as one would admire a photograph: A beautiful moment, preserved. But that leaves a lot of time for a life that none of us know about. I simply don't know anything about them as people, so I try not to go there, as I get a lot wrong looking in from the outside.

J o e y
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 5:48 pm:   Edit Post

Like Stanley said...

"It's very commercial" and when someone who is as talented as "he believes he is", and also being someone who believes of being a "Jazz purest" too, (if that's true...) then I believe Stanley betrayed a whole market of Jazz listeners when he jumped into trying to sound like Grand Master Flash, and the Furious 5.

From a competitive musical "mind set" (which is the contrary of my belief and musical values...) "I was better than anyone..." would be challenged. As a result, neither Stanley, nor his band couldn't personally hold a candle to anything Grand Master Flash and the Furious 5 was kicking.

That's what happens when you sound off and talk too much. Poetic Justice is a bit_h, and during that whole period, for all the things Stanley did with RTF, was forgotten and dismissed because Stanley maybe didn't know what he really had. (I am only speaking to the RTF band, when it's membership was of 4 people...)

What's funny in this history, I personally find amazing:

Two band would spring from Mile's legacy:

1. Weather Report - Bassist "Jaco" Pastorius
2. Return To Forever - Bassist Stanley Clarke

What legacy had Stanley created?

As for Miles love for Mr. John Francis Anthony "Jaco" Pastorius, Miles would leave this music in dedication... to Jaco
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2xez4_miles-davis-marcus-miller-jaco-past_music

As to what was left to Stanley, perhaps began when Stanley refused to accept joining Miles band, but instead join Chic's band. Perhaps, Stanley jinks himself on the refusal (I don't know...) But, I do know Miles was connected in the industry like Frank Sinatra. You just don't refuse a "Miles Davis" nor a "Frank Sinatra" and why in the hell would you do so anyway, when anybody and everybody who came from those institutions, became mega stars!

But, in the end, with Stanley sounding off in ridicule on Miles Davis during Stanley's honorary PhD, even after knowing Miles was gracious enough to acknowledge and respect Stanley enough to asked him to join his band, is a double whammy for me understanding the contrasting personalities of each celebrity, and to the realization (as to) who's music stands stronger through the winds of time? I have my answer., and it's pretty clear now.

Who's who of Mile Davis, is the question.

What legacy had Stanley created? (can anyone tell me)?


I believe Stanley thought he was Napoleon of music, to think he could just jump into any genera of music, and be accepted without being properly introduced, nor have a legacy to the game.

Like I said, Stanley can't have it both ways, and of all the people who grown to love Stanley's music, was a complete let down of betrayal, for people who held on to his message in music, expected something more profound if they felt their tax dollars were contributed on his musical education.

During the mid-80's, I believe, Stanley should had taken a long vacation. Take time out to breath in the Sunshine, and a dip into the pool and enjoy the family and laugh with those he loves, and let the business bell ring, and come back when a need for quality would be back in fashion.

But, Stanley thought of the song...

"She thought I was Grand Master Flash..."

Thinking of Grand Master Flash...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ChjLMbXVrU


Peace and Love,

Hal-


(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on July 25, 2010)
davehouck
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 7:34 pm:   Edit Post

Hal; I sent an email to you a couple days ago. Just checking to see if you received it.
serialnumber12
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 7:42 pm:   Edit Post

Brilliant!
serialnumber12
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 7:43 pm:   Edit Post

Brilliant!
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 8:58 pm:   Edit Post

Yes Dave, I read your email, more than once.

Please read my reply.

Peace and Love,

Hal-

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on July 25, 2010)
davehouck
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post

Hal; I haven't received a reply. Can you send it again?
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 1:09 am:   Edit Post

Did I cross the line...? Am I disturbing anyone...with this? I hope no feelings are being hurt?

Please let me know, and I will withdraw, and hold my thoughts from this forum from this point forward.

"For I come in peace, and I wish no harm at all... and I know, it get's hot in the kitchen... I can open a window."

Peace and Love,

Hal-


(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on July 26, 2010)
hb3
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 6:14 am:   Edit Post

Hal, I've agreed with much that you've said here, and I'm not troubled by it in the slightest. The only thing I'm wondering about is -- didn't you have some sort of blog on the SC board, and there was some conflict? So I wonder if you'd be expressing yourself differently if there hadn't been that trouble.
terryc
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 6:26 am:   Edit Post

I guess it is difficult when the 'spotlight of the famous' shines on you..one wrong word and you are the devil incarnate.
I don't care what anyone says about anyone, it's their view whether it is right or wrong, I just want to know how the hell he played that set of notes!!!
slammin
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 7:28 am:   Edit Post

I think SC bashing is blasphemy. Music is his medium to my own little world and if I were to judge Mr. Clarke by any means at all, it would be based on the music he creates and I definitely give him all the praise in the world for his gift to us.
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 9:31 am:   Edit Post

Hugh, I would say it was any number of things that happened over at Stanley Clarke dot com.

But it also had something to do with the enthusiasm of the artist. Let me explain.

Stanley Clarke dot com was pretty much abandoned, and I believe the last time Stanley respond to anyone there (according to his system logs) was 2008. For me, that's a long time to not address your fans. But, I was fine with the notion because it was like our "country club" or "barber shop" for other other musicians, and myself to get together and hang out and talk about what? Music. It was much like here, but we got deep.

I really enjoyed hanging out over there, and it demonstrated how tolerant Stanley was, because again, it was a deep musical experience we all shared, it was peaceful, and I was able to gain a perspective from another point of views from people who understood where I was coming from with an urban black experience when talking about ROCK, SOUL, JAZZ, FUNK and GOSPEL too.

At the time, I was working on a history piece on the FUNK, and how Disco almost killed the FUNK. While I read many points of views and other documents and works published, I was not satisfied, and I felt much of the readings were too apologetic and cut-up from the real oral history I would come to understand, and many of the musicians/bands are gone, and I wanted to know why, and what in the hell happened. So, on Stanley's site, I was given the spiritual support, to direct my energies to attempt to unravel the mysteries of what happened to the FUNK and who assisted in its demise.

So, as time marched on, Stanley's web staff had made us aware, Stanley had collaborated with a social network, and was actively participating with fans, and there were plenty of blog space for integrating music, pictures and video, and best of all, you can talk to Stanley directly publicly and privately. As you could imagine, this was great news and 100% of my questions were related to his educational directions vs musical learning and theories. I also shared I was 100% about supporting the FUNK, and I showed Stanley my drawings of my basses and he also seen pictures of the finished product. Stanley ask me to write my blog on my bass. So, in the beginning, there was a lot of magic in the air because people from the industry were jumping on and adding their space to the network for the non-profit and charity activities I am involved.

It was just a really cool place to hang out, and as my Funk blog was in full swing, Stanley would occasionally chime in on a particular area of the blog, and comment. Stanley was really supportive on my topics, and email me his thoughts. So, things were really cool, and I would continue to write, and weeks would go by, and it became a route to write more, but one day the whole site crashed. All the members who signed up, their accounts, and membership were completely lost and nobody knew why.

All my work, and correspondences to other people and them to me, were completely wiped out "just like that..." Oh, my goodness I almost cried because there's nowhere you could learn, and had that many people to access at one time to get something done. Also I was getting ready to stage auditions for interested people to join my FUNK band as a non-profit arm to helping other during a time of need. (I now need horns...)

From what I am told from a insider, Stanley was not happy about it at all. Because it was great for his music and dedications of his talent over so many years and anyone who would try to login, would be routed to Kelsey.com. That was just wrong.

It taken months to repair the site, but by the time the site was back up, the whole format was gone, and completely changed. The thrill was gone, so I told everybody who were reading my blog updates, to go back to Stanley Clarke dot com and I promised myself I wouldn't leave Stanley's site and I felt I never should had left to the new site in the first place, because I deeply felt Stanley should just invest time in on his own web site... and I would had gladly stayed if Stanley was interactive on his original site.

So I went back, and pulled my notes from where I left off, but much of videos and pictures I had, been lost. So, as people started reading my work on the FUNK, things were cool.

Something happened strangely, when Stanley toured at Yosh's in Oakland Ca, when Stanley allegedly (by witness/members account) walked over to a fan who was doing and say nothing, and Stanley snapped, and asked if the the guy was on drugs. As reported by one of members of Stanley's website also said it was pretty strange, because he said, he sat next to the guy, and their was nothing he could see, for Stanley to justify disrupting everyone's enjoyment and evening over something that was of a complete mystery. So, I don't know what to say... I got on the topic about the early beginnings, and history of the electric bass... and that's when things started to change for me, and I am sure, by this time Stanley was paying attention to what was being said on his website on the incident and probably everything else too. But instead of speaking on it, and shedding his light, Stanley never commented a word. So, I guess you just keep the mystery to these things, and only the people who were there, knows really what happened (so this becomes a oral history...) So, then it becomes a question of who you believe: a celebrity or an "everyday person", but frankly, I was not there and my mind was on Monk, and I had questions on on my mind about Monk, his life and time, and I was hoping Stanley would know something (he seems to know everything else...about the bass).

However, we think we know something, but if we humble ourselves, we might just learn something we never known before...

I would mentioned Monk Montgomery, because Monk was the first electric bass player Leo Fender selected to play the Fender P, on a professional level. Monk was the first electric bass "astronaut" test pilot, and to me, that's news Stanley (with his PhD), never mentioned. I included this information in my blog and Monk's musical bass playing, and it sounded like Stanley Clarke, but in a primitive way. (...but hey, its earlier stuff) Monk innovations on taking the first electric bass to the front of the bands was his claim, and not Stanley's. People need to know the truth. So, of course I wanted to ask Stanley about what he knew about Monk, and had he ever lectured on this man any time in his musical career?

Monk also played Upright with a bow and finger playing stlye. What was interesting, Monk is was the the first to apply an electric bass lead, with an acoustic bottom. Monk played the electric bass as a lead guitar player, and supported compositions with orchestras with this style.

After coming to this understanding, I felt like my education was seriously hacked because, I never heard a mention of this guy named Monk before, but that's the value of my family's oral musical history. I asked Stanley why has he not mentioned this guy in his work, because Stanley sounds just like Monk.

Stanley never returned my questions, and all of a sudden, with no warning Stanley shuts down his site, and returns with a entirely new format and totally different perspective. I lost everything.

At this point, I just created my own blog not associated to any famous person nor market product push.

Stanley's new content is basically 'BUY MY CD' and look at my cool pictures, and remember the good old days of RTF, and read without being too critical... and like -- 'check out this awesome bass line, and drool'.

So, I come to the conclusion, I am not welcomed at Stanley's sites because of my questions. Stanley protecting his brand, but frankly, my questions were innocent to gaining a perspective of Stanley's thoughts on other bass players who I never heard him mention, and I didn't want to be left to draw my own conclusions when Stanley and I had already exchanged emails on what? Music.

It's just like when I announced the Toma_Hawk bass, as being the first Funk bass or the first time, anyone felt the need pay their respects of to the players who inspired me to want such a design in the first place. Stanley knows his bass, and he now knows mine too, but most importantly, the history behind it's creations is bigger than me, and came before me, but was finally manifested this year.

"Only a foot print in the sands of life, to fade away with an absolute certainty..."

#12, I am truly sorry for "stretchin out the FUNK" man, for you turned me on the Stanley's site.
Ladies and Gentlemen...

I bring you Monk Montgomery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI3lhVYQGXk

Peace and Love,

Hal-

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on July 26, 2010)
cozmik_cowboy
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post

Is that Chad & Jeremy I hear singing in the background?

Peter
bsee
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 2:47 pm:   Edit Post

I have to tell you, Hal, there are a few things in your last post that I find bothersome. I am also going to throw out some unsolicited advice of a technical nature that you probably don't need, especially after experiencing the effects.

The first statement that bothered me was the concept that "Disco almost killed the FUNK." It may be that funk popularity began to wane as disco was on the rise, but to say one form of music could kill another is bogus. If music can stand, then it stands. If it evolves or loses popularity, that's the way of the world. If funk slipped to have less popularity and fewer proponents, it was because that was the taste of both the musicians and the listeners. Of course, all that is academic. What really bothered me was hearing such a statement form a guy who has been talking about peace, love and living in harmony.

Now, for the unsolicited advice. First, I applaud your wish to express your own opinions and have control over them on your own blog site. Go to places like Stanley's site or here and occasionally reference your research on your own site. If people find it interesting, they'll come to your site to participate. No one will censor you on your own site, and people here or on SC's site can ignore it more easily if they so desire. If you really care about peace, then this is s good move.

Additionally, it's not a bad idea to periodically back up things that are important to you. Cut and paste or save the web page to have all the text. I'm sure you know this now, and probably did then, but we all get lax on stuff like this. We all love this site and count on it being here forever, but you never know what the future holds. If there's a thread or two with info you find supremely valuable, archive a copy of it someplace safe. I'm sure you'll be taking care of your blog in this regard.

As far as the Toma_Hawk being the "first Funk bass", that's awfully presumptuous. There are a lot of players who came before you, a lot of players with different sizes and ergonomic preferences than you have. Some of them, I'm sure, would have played your bass and loved it. They may have said "Wow, I could have done so much more if I had one of these 30 years ago!" There'd also be quite a few who would say "I can't play this thing, I don't get it." I'm glad it works for you, and that should be all that matters to anyone. I don't know if I would like playing a Toma_Hawk, I probably would, but I do love playing a small standard.

With regard to Stanley Clarke, I have appreciated the music he's made over the years, but never really cared what he thought about anything. At least not more or less than I care about the opinion of any other person with whom I do not have any personal attachment. On the facts, I can neither support nor refute your claims. What I can say is that I am uncomfortable as a customer of Alembic with someone using their club forums to bash a man who has been so connected with their products. That's another reason why I applaud your decision to take your thoughts on the matter to some site under your own control.

-bob
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post

No comment. You win.

Peace and Love,

Hal-
lbpesq
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 5:28 pm:   Edit Post

"It's deja vu, all over again."

Yogi Berra
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 5:38 pm:   Edit Post

No it's not.

Like the man said, I have my own blog, and soon to be publishing my books on the FUNK very soon.

One last thing, I really enjoyed this discussion, and I felt really great to see everybody here in full effect with great comments! (I mean it too.) :-)

Peace and Love,

Hal-

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on July 26, 2010)
ajdover
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 6:33 pm:   Edit Post

Hal - I just hope the FUNK is not the smelly kind ... ;-) God knows I've been on the receiving end of some not so good funk over the years, particularly after beans are involved ... ;-)

Alan
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 7:01 pm:   Edit Post

Unless you had a delightful and righteous experience consuming a syrup sandwich, (at your neighbors house) it is absolutely impossible for you to know the FUNK.


Peace and Love,

Hal-
ajdover
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 7:11 pm:   Edit Post

Hal - I know the funk, trust me.

True Story: As a rifle platoon leader in A Company, 1st Battalion, 5th United States Cavalry, 2nd Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division during Operation DESERT STORM I can attest that the smells emanating from the crew compartment of a Bradley Fighting Vehicle full of soldiers who've eaten nothing but Meals, Ready To Eat (MRE) for weeks qualifies as funky. I was in the turret, and of course there was a vacuum bringing these unpleasant, noxious fumes to my nose. Trust me, I know what the "funk" is in that sense. A syrup sandwich? No comparison to weeks of MRE consumption if you ask me ... ;-)

Al
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 7:34 pm:   Edit Post

Yeah, ok.

I don't think you even come close to what I understand what The FUNK is all about.

But at least I understand what you mean pretty clear.

Peace and Love,

Hal-
ajdover
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 7:47 pm:   Edit Post

Geez, Hal, was just trying to bring some humor to the conversation. Apparently, my efforts were misplaced. Evidently, no one other than you knows what The FUNK is.

Best to you,

Al

(Message edited by ajdover on July 26, 2010)
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 8:11 pm:   Edit Post

And all the time I thought you would laughing with me on my message...

Peace and Love,

Hal-
ajdover
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 8:28 pm:   Edit Post

Hal - as you've said previously, you win. I'm out.

Al

(Message edited by ajdover on July 26, 2010)
darkstar01
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post

Hal, you need to relax. This isn't a forum about "FUNK", or you, or Stanley. Honestly man, if I had any interest in "FUNK" before you started this nonsense, you just killed it.
( insert inane response from Hal about coffee or cookies or "FUNK", and how each is superior to whatever it is the rest of us are doing ) .
slawie
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTBPdVpdMc
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post

Austin,

By virtue of you speaking as if I hold the definition of FUNK is surprising when FUNK had been here before I was born. FUNK is a musical pattern that is extremely rhythmic and driving.

You can like or dislike FUNK, its clearly up to your preference. But for me, the FUNK is like food, I was raised on it. From the time I was born, and to this very day, its a natural dietary supplement :-) That's why we used the most simple foods when describing FUNK (Syrup and Bread, Sugar water and corn flakes in a bowl) simple ingredients to fuel the groove.

You are right, this thread is not about me, Stanley, FUNK or anybody. and it's very relaxing to not be confused. Also, there's no problems with you speaking... I respect where you are coming from.

Peace and Love,

Hal-

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on July 27, 2010)
darkstar01
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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post

So is it cool if I just post videos of my favorite music for no reason?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWiO5SFoh8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhhVXMDLOgA

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7OpZ2QO0Ng)

sorry hal. you seem like a good enough guy, but you need to chill.

(Message edited by darkstar01 on July 27, 2010)

(Message edited by darkstar01 on July 27, 2010)
mike1762
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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 3:12 am:   Edit Post

And we're off....
lbpesq
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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 7:00 am:   Edit Post

"Seems like I've been here before"

Born Cross-Eyed
Bob Weir
artswork99
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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 8:38 am:   Edit Post

Dear Alembic forum members,

We as moderators for Alembic feel that the path this thread has taken is not appropriate for our forum. Due to the type of response it has created we feel it best to close the thread here and let you know of our concerns. We have initiated off-board correspondence with parties involved and hope to rectify the situation in a timely fashion. We hope that our members continue to have healthy conversations regarding our wonderful instruments!

Thank you,

Art

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