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toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 122
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post

Keep an eye out for Hal's FUNK Bass Forum...
in 2011 (With no affiliations nor aspirations... just Bass Players who loves the music.)

It's time to let people speak honestly about the FUNK.

Peace and Love,

Hal-

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on August 06, 2010)
benson_murrensun
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Post Number: 312
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Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post

Funksters out of the closet! So to speak...
briant
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Post Number: 432
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post

I wasn't aware that people weren't allowed to speak honestly about any sort of music.
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 123
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post

...relative on who's house you enter.

Peace and Love,

Hal-
funkyjazzjunky
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Post Number: 606
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 2:37 pm:   Edit Post

Sometimes it takes a cultural orientation to appreciate Funk music
afrobeat_fool
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Post Number: 229
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 3:36 pm:   Edit Post

Remember people. Funk is it's own reward!
serialnumber12
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Post Number: 794
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 7:05 pm:   Edit Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfv_M5cNDqs
rjmsteel
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 7:10 pm:   Edit Post

Especially when the low end is coming out of a 4 x 21", (cone size), speaker cabinet! Not sure who was piped through that monster.
groovelines
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Username: groovelines

Post Number: 609
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 7:44 am:   Edit Post

@ Mark, I think pauldo was pumping his frankenstein bass through the 4x21.

To stay on topic: I can't funk but I sure like to listen it done well.
pauldo
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Username: pauldo

Post Number: 489
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 8:13 am:   Edit Post

guilty!

Keavin - is that you (and #12) on all of the Mista Bossmann songs?
crobbins
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Post Number: 661
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 9:43 am:   Edit Post

Funk is good for the soul.
groovelines
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Post Number: 610
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 4:20 pm:   Edit Post

Hahaha, after my post above I checked the set list for church services tomorrow and lo and behold Funkadelic's "One Nation Under a Groove" is slated for the band jam. Anyone have a decent chart they can email to me!? Too funny . . .
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post

We all know James Brown... but very few know Bobby Byrd was cardinal Chief Architect and composer to first establish what is known as FUNK, which James Brown adopted, and eventually claimed.

Both Bobby and James worked as equal partners in the early 50's where James charisma and showmanship was the complete element, which strengthened the entire package know as FUNK.

Vicki Byrd (the widow of Bobby Byrd of 37 years) was also a member of the band during birth of FUNK, and she's still alive to speak of these facts. She's no stranger to these discussions, and had been on National/International news stations like CNN and other major news outlets in context to musical history.

It was Bobby who invited James a place to stay when James was a troubled teen. Not long after that, James joined the Avons, (a band Bobby had founded) then the Flames. As they say, the rest is
history.

Bobby Byrd passed away in 2007, his wife and family resides in Georgia.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/obituaries/article2484991.ece

Peace and Love,

Hal-



(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on August 08, 2010)
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 2:45 pm:   Edit Post

Bootsy uses how many Alembic preamps?

http://mixonline.com/studio/facility_profiles/bootsy-collins-boards-ark/

Daaaaaammmm!


Peace and Love,

Hal-
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 129
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cNDSPutas8

Peace and Love,

Hal-
funkyjazzjunky
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Post Number: 607
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post

Do not forget about Joe Tex
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 130
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post

Rufus Thomas too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e9uk0fMNow

The David Sanborn Show

Marcus Miller on bass...

Peace and Love,

Hal-

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on August 09, 2010)
serialnumber12
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Username: serialnumber12

Post Number: 796
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 2:04 pm:   Edit Post

Question:....How Does larry Graham (Not Have) a signature fender jazz bass when he put the stamp on it in the funk arena,but marcus miller (larry graham clone)has one!............toma hawk01 we need you on this one bro...
funkyjazzjunky
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Post Number: 608
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 2:10 pm:   Edit Post

I thought Larry played Moon Basses (Larry Graham Model)



Vann-Di
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1204
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 2:16 pm:   Edit Post

How about a "James Jamerson" Signature Fender
or Donald" Duck" Dunn model ?
serialnumber12
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Username: serialnumber12

Post Number: 797
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 2:24 pm:   Edit Post

yep he does play moon basses, but he did just as much for fender than stanley did for alembic.
hieronymous
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Post Number: 817
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 2:29 pm:   Edit Post

There was a Donald "Duck" Dunn signature P-Bass from Fender around 1998, but you don't hear much about it. It was a limited edition from Fender Japan (CIJ or Crafted in Japan). I think the Lakland Donald "Duck" Dunn signature is much more well-known.
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 131
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 3:15 pm:   Edit Post

From: Sly and Larry's original riff...

http://www.wat.tv/video/sly-and-the-family-stone-thank-gtal_2f1mr_.html

To: Janet Jackson's (Terry Lewis Jimmy Jam's recreations of Sly and Larry's creation...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvMpBlyKlfo


The song Janet Jackson performed really sum up just how timeless Sly and Larry's music is...

#12, your question about Fender not having a Larry Graham Signature bass, and yet Marcus Miller and others were given such honors, is a serious mystery, and frankly disgraceful (in my opinion).

Larry Graham is the man, who invented Slapping/Thumpping/Popping using a Fender electric bass, and yet they make a Marcus Miller bass before the Master...? This de-values the signature as a whole.

I am surprised Marcus Miller could even honor his own signature Fender without the company of a Larry Graham signature Fender within the organization.

I am sure Marcus Miller, feels a little aloof without Larry's Fender signature in the mix. I am sure he must think of this in the middle of the night... (He might not bring it up, but I am sure he must wonder or ponder this very question too... for that, would be human).

Fender signatures are confusing:
"They honor the branches, but not the deep roots of the tree..."

Peace and Love,

Hal-


(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on August 09, 2010)
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 132
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 6:05 pm:   Edit Post

Oaktown own... Bassist Rusty Allen with Sly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3xdwf2cdSE&feature=related

I remember when he formed his band called:
"Second Wind!"

"O-Lordy Beee...The Funk's on me!"

Peace and Love,

Hal-
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1205
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 6:12 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for that info hieronymous . Duck's chops were an influence on me at one point.
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 133
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 6:17 pm:   Edit Post

Jessie connects with Sly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ki4GUz5Qwg&feature=fvsr

What a smooth cut...

Peace and Love,

Hal-
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 134
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post

Micheal does Jimi!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wga1nLKVlRs&feature=related

Peace and Love,

Hal-
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 135
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post

Bootsy does Hendrix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7RqVHROCdY

"...I ain't gonna copy you."

Peace and Love,

Hal-
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 136
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post

Stevie Ray Vaughan does Jimi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GSpbuFSr2o&feature=related

Peace and Love,

Hal-
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 137
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post

Steve Vie, Joe Satriani, and Yngwie Malmsteen does Jimi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_k0LQ0btqI

Peace and Love,

Hal-
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 138
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 2:35 pm:   Edit Post

Eric Clapton & Sheryl Crow does Jimi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lARtelEJ19M


Peace and Love,

Hal-
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 139
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 2:40 pm:   Edit Post

Eddie Van Halen does Jimi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWzOcGERWLQ


Peace and Love,

Hal-
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 140
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 2:45 pm:   Edit Post

Prince with Maceo Parker and Larry Graham does Jimi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpOzENbDE6k

Peace and Love,

Hal-
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 141
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 3:06 pm:   Edit Post

The British invasion was never a invasion to Buddy Guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQqNTgnJmpE

Peace and Love,

Hal-
ajdover
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Post Number: 853
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 3:55 pm:   Edit Post

Weird Al Yankovic does Jimi, too. Check it out at about the 1:58 mark. He also parodies a bunch of other artists too. Pretty funny stuff if you ask me ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pag45E_ihwY

Alan
darkstar01
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Post Number: 238
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 6:19 pm:   Edit Post

Don't know if this was mentioned, but Catfish Collins ( Bootsy's brother/ rhythm guitarist) died the other day. RIP.
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 142
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 7:39 pm:   Edit Post

Thank you for sharing this news Austin...

Yeah man Catfish passed last Friday from Cancer.

Here's an old clip of Phelps Catfish Collins from James Brown...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDGpeW4sUUs&feature=player_embedded

Catfish worked a film score of "Lyle Workman Superbad" 2007...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM5FOCSgqt8&feature=fvsr

It's hard to see another corner stone of FUNK leave us. It's even harder when Garry Shider just left us last month.

The FUNK must continue to shine.

Peace and Love,

Hal-
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 143
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post

I'll just fade out with this jam...

REST IN PEACE AND MUCH LOVE BROTHER PHELPS CATFISH COLLINS!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZIlpq6erP8&feature=related

Man, did my generation have it good because of you!


Peace and Love, and may GOD Bless Bootsy for this uplifting - Jam for a ghetto cat like me.

Hal-

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on August 11, 2010)
serialnumber12
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Post Number: 813
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post

Speaking of funk Bass???http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZH2-rTp8Ug&feature=player_embedded#!
toma_hawk01
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Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post

#12,

A child grows up, and pop the FUNK like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlv8LBpen7s&feature=related

Peace and Love,

Hal-
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 1350
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 2:58 pm:   Edit Post

here check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8kpZHNJWao

I was playing along to some 70's disco/funk tunes(Marvin Gaye - Got To Give It Up, EWF - September etc) and I remembered this tune from the mid 70's.
Ultra funk..loads of Mu Tron to the max!!!
otis
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Post Number: 224
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 7:59 pm:   Edit Post

Well, this isn't funk, in the traditional sense, but here it is, anyways... My band, OTiS...

This first one is a song about a rooster I used to know lovingly referred to as "Big Red."

Hope ya dig!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PCkO1Nf3CQ


Peace;)

Frank
otis
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 8:05 pm:   Edit Post

Here's the 2nd:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZPc8EywcY
otis
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 8:07 pm:   Edit Post

The 3rd:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpBpeYmmzHc
otis
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 8:08 pm:   Edit Post

4th:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqoXNYVbyQQ
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 1:27 pm:   Edit Post

Black Merda Band of the Psychedelic 60's FUNK movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLr_rQ23VfA&feature=related

Peace and Love,

Hal-
bigredbass
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Post Number: 1518
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post

Wolf, Fender for a while made a Duck Dunn Signature, but it passed out of the catalog. He now has another red Signature bass made by Lakland.

The reason I've always heard is that there's just too fractured an estate situation regarding a Jamerson bass, surprising inasmuch as his son is a great player on his own.

I don't know if Fender ever approached Larry Graham, but like a lot of cats who other musicians know about but not the general public in the States, he's well known in Japan, leading to his association with Moon.

J o e y
sonicus
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Post Number: 1333
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for the response and information Joey. I have checked out some Lakland Bass's and in my opinion they had really decent playability. Most recently at the local "Texas Amigos" guitar show I was finally able to play a Lakland that came equipped with Hammon Engineering Dark Star pickups. It was nice to play but now I am so spoiled now by my Alembics.
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post

It's sad how an American Icon, has to go abroad to get some respect.

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on October 09, 2010)
bigredbass
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Post Number: 1520
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Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 8:28 am:   Edit Post

Yes, but Hal you must remember how obsessive the Japanese can be about American/Western culture: Think of how into Classical music Japan is, remembering this is half-tone music in a country where their heritage is quarter-tone. Think of all the Alembic-ish basses from the 80's, or the various neo-Fenders now like Moon or the various Deviser brands.

Of course, this hunger for American Pop Culture abroad works to our advantage as well: David Hasselhoff has hit records only in Germany ! !

J o e y
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 304
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Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 1:47 pm:   Edit Post

I feel you Joey, but my references in this regards were directed at American Iconic manufactures like Fender who had never created a Larry Graham Signature bass.

I am still on the question of how does Marcus Miller and others has a signature bass before the early pioneers and bass contributors like Monk Montgomery, and Larry Graham?

Watching Larry Graham in the 70's playing a Fender, made me want to own a Fender -- but my budget could only afford a Fender copy called a PAN bass (made in Japan).

Fender has a rich history, but their present management are treading the line of ignorance, which I would expected more from their leadership.

When they dedicate a signature bass to Larry, or Monk, I'll be the first in line to own them as a relic investment. However, until that time, I'll just say: its a shame...

Peace and Love,

Hal-

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on October 09, 2010)
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 7:18 pm:   Edit Post

musashi
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Post Number: 93
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Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 9:08 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks, Hal, for the Black Merda link. Wasn't hip to them before your link.
toma_hawk01
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Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 9:31 pm:   Edit Post

You are very welcome Musashi.

Peace and Love,

Hal-
lowlife
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Post Number: 388
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Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 4:01 am:   Edit Post

There's also Con Funk Shun, a favorite of mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkMj3AU-oWA
mike1762
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Post Number: 657
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 5:56 am:   Edit Post

Monk Montgomery and Larry Graham were certainly "trail blazers", and without them, I wonder whether Marcus would "be" Marcus. That being said, I think we will all agree that the technical prowess of Marcus Miller is just on another level. This sort-of phenomena is not unique to music (and certainly not to bass players). My wife was an athlete in the first generation of competitive Women's Olympic Style Weightlifters. She is in the Weightlifting Hall of Fame and still has all of her American records (the weight classes were re-structured since she retired; therefore, she will have her records in perpetuity). Yet most of today's athletes have no idea who she is or what she did for them (she was on a committee that successfully petitioned the IOC to include women in the Olympic Games). It can be frustrating for the person and their supporters, but I guess it's human nature to ask: "what have you done for me lately?".
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 307
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Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 6:24 am:   Edit Post

Jimi Said it best:

"Will the wind ever remember
The names it has blown in the past
And with his crutch, it's old age, and it's wisdom
It whispers no, this will be the last

And the wind cries Mary..."

Peace and Love,

Hal-
tmoney61092
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Post Number: 534
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 2:17 pm:   Edit Post

i find that Fender is doing very well with current managment, look at the American Deluxes jazzes, they're amazing! i love them to death, real beauties also. give me a couple months and i'll be ordering an all black with maple fretboard 5 string(tuned EADGA, the last A being a guitar string which is something i've been wanting to try for a while)

~Taylor
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 308
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Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post

Well, I guess from your perspective, I'll just have to wait and see if Larry Graham agrees with you Taylor.

Peace and Love,

Hal-

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